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Offline VDD1991

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Cosmopolis XXI
« on: 09/13/2013 03:24 am »
All of you may have overlooked this, but a few years ago the Myasishchev Design Bureau (best known for the M-4 strategic bomber, the M-50 and M-52 supersonic bombers, the M-17 spyplane, and the M-55 scientific research aircraft) unveiled Russia's counterpart to SpaceShipTwo, the Cosmopolis XXI. However, there has been no word on whether or not the Cosmopolis XXI project has left the drawing board. Is it possible that the possible that the passenger capacity of the Cosmopolis XXI (four passengers) may have been too inadequate for the project to win backing from Russia's space tourism industry? If so, then Russia is seriously falling behind America in passenger spaceplane development even though it has enough financial resources to fabricate a TSTSO (Two Stage to SubOrbit) passenger spaceplane prototype on its own.

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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #1 on: 09/14/2013 06:12 pm »
I believe that Cosmopolis was somehow connected to Space Adventures at one point.


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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #2 on: 09/16/2013 02:49 pm »
I believe that Cosmopolis was somehow connected to Space Adventures at one point.
Didn't Space Adventures stop the development of Cosmopolis XXI, in favor of a new spacecraft that they are making in partnership with Armadillo Aerospace. Perhaps now that Armadillo Aerospace is in "hibernation mode", they will continue work on cosmopolis. To me cosmopolis looked a lot more realistic than the VTVL craft that Armadillo Aerospace had in mind.   

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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #3 on: 09/16/2013 04:11 pm »
I believe that Cosmopolis was somehow connected to Space Adventures at one point.
Didn't Space Adventures stop the development of Cosmopolis XXI, in favor of a new spacecraft that they are making in partnership with Armadillo Aerospace. Perhaps now that Armadillo Aerospace is in "hibernation mode", they will continue work on cosmopolis. To me cosmopolis looked a lot more realistic than the VTVL craft that Armadillo Aerospace had in mind.
You know, in a lot of ways I think HTHL makes more sense for suborbital than VTVL while for orbital it's the other way around.
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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #4 on: 09/16/2013 04:46 pm »
I believe that Cosmopolis was somehow connected to Space Adventures at one point.
Didn't Space Adventures stop the development of Cosmopolis XXI, in favor of a new spacecraft that they are making in partnership with Armadillo Aerospace. Perhaps now that Armadillo Aerospace is in "hibernation mode", they will continue work on cosmopolis. To me cosmopolis looked a lot more realistic than the VTVL craft that Armadillo Aerospace had in mind.
You know, in a lot of ways I think HTHL makes more sense for suborbital than VTVL while for orbital it's the other way around.
Agreed, VTVL requires far too much fuel.

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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #5 on: 09/16/2013 05:20 pm »
I believe that Cosmopolis was somehow connected to Space Adventures at one point.
Didn't Space Adventures stop the development of Cosmopolis XXI, in favor of a new spacecraft that they are making in partnership with Armadillo Aerospace. Perhaps now that Armadillo Aerospace is in "hibernation mode", they will continue work on cosmopolis. To me cosmopolis looked a lot more realistic than the VTVL craft that Armadillo Aerospace had in mind.
You know, in a lot of ways I think HTHL makes more sense for suborbital than VTVL while for orbital it's the other way around.
Agreed, VTVL requires far too much fuel.
Fuel isn't the issue. And it doesn't really make a big difference for VTVL vs HTHL.
« Last Edit: 09/16/2013 05:22 pm by Robotbeat »
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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #6 on: 09/21/2013 02:48 pm »
If this thread turns into yet another debate about appropriate architectures for commercial spacecraft, things will get pretty useless pretty quickly.

This thread is about Cosmopolis, if you have any information about that, please share.

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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #7 on: 12/10/2013 02:53 pm »
Polis means city
Cosmo means something like "universe".

I don't understand the naming choice.  Is the meaning different to Russians?
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Re: Cosmopolis XXI
« Reply #8 on: 12/10/2013 06:22 pm »
Polis means city
Cosmo means something like "universe".

I don't understand the naming choice.  Is the meaning different to Russians?
Cosmos mean space (like cosmonaut).

 

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