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Offline Cog_in_the_machine

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Who says he's planning it? He seems like a nice guy and I'm not sure he's happy about this.

Willson - the jobs at NASA Glen Research Center must be protected. How will you do that?

Bolden - since Glen is an R&D center the future is bright foe them

Willson - What about their work on Constellation?

Bolden - That won't impact them and they'll get more aerospace research and ion engine research to work on.
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Offline northanger

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Davis made a point of comparing 1969 (Moon landing) to 1986 (Challenger disaster) asking which path the current plan was taking us. Thought it was a great question.

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Who says he's planning it?

He just claimed he did himself:   "...this new plan, which I advised the President to do".   His words.

Ross.
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Who says he's planning it?

He'd claiming he did himself:   "...this new plan, which I advised the President to do".   His words.

Ross.

I mean I doubt he's the sole mastermind behind this. Anyway this is off topic.
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Who says he's planning it? He seems like a nice guy and I'm not sure he's happy about this.
He might not be happy about it, but he knows that ending Shuttle and CxP in the same year will cause a large "reduction in workforce."  I don't believe Mr. Bolden has disagreed with that assessment.

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Bishop worrying about SRB cancellation effect on DoD from this 'catastrophic' decision. Says jobs losses will have a negative effect on inspiring children into space industry.
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A comet hit Jupiter late last year?  I thought Shoemaker-Levy happened 15 years ago, not last year.  Was there another, or is Bolden confused?

There was another.

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2009-112

With SL-9, it was spotted well before the impact.

Concern with the later impact is that it came out of the blue. That's a rationale to increase the pace of discovery of Earth-crossing objects, to avoid the same happening to Earth.

Bolden mentioned this in a press conference in Israel recently, and that it came as a surprise that it's one of his responsibilities.

Martin

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I love the very people who underfunded CxP complaining that it didnt work out.  Too much irony.

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Bishop says that "summers for educating kids" is pointless and is not going to encourage kids to get in aerospace in light of the many other science related fields they can go into. It's not a bold new path.

I can at least agree on the inspiration part.
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Agree with his comments on the negative message, chaos, lack of commitment discouraging people from pursuing scientific careers...as an unemployed engineer, I'd certainly much rather be collecting a $500,000 bonus as a financial employee of some "too big to fail" banking institution right now! 
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Bolden mentioned in discussions with Russians now about future Soyuz prices.

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Griffith says US HSF is a national strategic concern and should not be privatized.

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Interesting analogy from Representative Griffith that it's like a hostile takeover...

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Ross, not sure how you are taking all of this...but as a Direct supporter I want to scream at my computer screen every time they say "If only we had a viable option that uses Shuttle components in a timely and cost effective manner!"

Maybe this is the usual way that congress works, but I feel like this is just going around in circles. Cxp fans are making Ares I sound like gods gift to Earth, commercial guys are saying Ares bad, commercial good. Yet we are getting nowhere. Wake up people.

Offline Cog_in_the_machine

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Griffith is fearmongering basically:
The space program is critical to national deference.
Privatizing space is a mistake since it's critical to national deference.
We have to be number one and we mustn't watch the chinese land on the Moon from our living rooms.
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Posey says it would take 1% of stimulus money to extend Shuttle for 5 more years. Says BEO gap is now infinite.
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Maybe this is the usual way that congress works, but I feel like this is just going around in circles.
Yes, this is the usual way that Congress works.

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Posey mentions the shuttles have a 99% reliability and were designed for up to 100 flights.

Calls the new plan a giant step toward mediocrity.

Asks what it would take to renew Constellation.

Bolden says that beneficial technology will be saved from Constellation if it's canceled, but doesn't specify what it would take to keep it going. (obviously they're hoping that won't happen)
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It's the Obama plan that's going around in circles.

It's beyond obvious it's in big trouble.

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Posey says giant step backwards from greatness to mediocrity, asks what will it take to renew Bolden's interest in Cx.

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