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https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=288g6962bnlh2kh8fm12o01433&topic=8184.1680


Per this, the launch may now be NET the end of April, which is not shocking as the s1 is still in McGregor.

Sorry, the link goes to a 2007 post?!
Only if you have your site settings set to show the newest post on top. It's one odd thing about the site format.

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https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=288g6962bnlh2kh8fm12o01433&topic=8184.1680


Per this, the launch may now be NET the end of April, which is not shocking as the s1 is still in McGregor.

Sorry, the link goes to a 2007 post?!
Only if you have your site settings set to show the newest post on top. It's one odd thing about the site format.

Need to link to the actual post, rather than the thread page.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=8184.msg1799285#msg1799285

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Per this, the launch may now be NET the end of April, which is not shocking as the s1 is still in McGregor.

Sorry, the link goes to a 2007 post?!

It works to take me to the last page of the thread (currently), but the better way to link to a particular message is to copy the link from the header text of the post, which I think in this case was intended to be https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=8184.msg1799283#msg1799283

Good practice is to put the link behind descriptive text to avoid long-link issues:
 - Per this post, the launch may now be NET the end of April, which is not shocking as the s1 is still in McGregor.
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An important note on this, as people look to our mission threads for information on launch dates: at this time, we have no new information regarding Bangabandhu-1's launch date to report.  The "late April" date listed in the U.S. manifest thread and linked here is a guess and is based on Ben Cooper's launch photography site which only references "April TBD at the earliest".

Yes, I agree it is very likely to slip given the core's location, but there is no update NSF has to the launch target at this time.  Once we do, Chris B will cross post. :)

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Maybe it is wishful thinking, but do I see a shape that looks like a crew access arm attached?!

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Maybe it is wishful thinking, but do I see a shape that looks like a crew access arm attached?!


Do you mean this, circled in red?
Isn't that way too low and on the wrong side?
There is nothing attached near the top, where the CAA would go, which is at second level from the top if you look here .
« Last Edit: 03/24/2018 08:57 pm by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post
« Last Edit: 03/25/2018 12:23 am by Jakusb »

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I spy with my @SpaceX eye ... a lazy Saturday afternoon.

https://twitter.com/wordsmithfl/status/977618173846581248?s=21

Maybe it is wishful thinking, but do I see a shape that looks like a crew access arm attached?!


Do you mean this, circled in red?
Isn't that way too low and on the wrong side?
There is nothing attached near the top, where the CAA would go, which is at second level from the top if you look here .
that is the existing STS Pad Escape system with the remains of the RSS obscuring it.
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I spy with my @SpaceX eye ... a lazy Saturday afternoon.

https://twitter.com/wordsmithfl/status/977618173846581248?s=21

Maybe it is wishful thinking, but do I see a shape that looks like a crew access arm attached?!


Do you mean this, circled in red?
Isn't that way too low and on the wrong side?
There is nothing attached near the top, where the CAA would go, which is at second level from the top if you look here .
that is the existing STS Pad Escape system with the remains of the RSS obscuring it.
Thank you, russianho117, but while your response is correct, exact, and interesting, displaying a solid knowledge of old Spaceflight hardware, it doesn’t help explain where jakusb thinks he sees the CAA.
« Last Edit: 03/25/2018 04:14 am by Comga »
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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I spy with my @SpaceX eye ... a lazy Saturday afternoon.

https://twitter.com/wordsmithfl/status/977618173846581248?s=21

Maybe it is wishful thinking, but do I see a shape that looks like a crew access arm attached?!


Do you mean this, circled in red?
Isn't that way too low and on the wrong side?
There is nothing attached near the top, where the CAA would go, which is at second level from the top if you look here .
that is the existing STS Pad Escape system with the remains of the RSS obscuring it.
Thank you, russianho117, but while your response is correct, exact, and interesting, displaying a solid knowledge of old Spaceflight hardware, it doesn’t help explain where jakusb thinks he sees the CAA.

It is indeed the small extension on the FSS, you indicated with red circle, that is attached too low on FSS to be the CAA.
I am convinced russianho117 is correct. Thanks!
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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post

He just confirmed the core is off the test stand since a couple of days. The departure from McGregor is his assumption, but info not see why it would not be transported ASAP.
So keep an eye out for it.

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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post

He just confirmed the core is off the test stand since a couple of days. The departure from McGregor is his assumption, but info not see why it would not be transported ASAP.
So keep an eye out for it.

So since it's allegedly left McGreggor (and should reach Florida in the next couple of days if this is true), does that not leave enough time to actually make the April 5 NET date? Or if not on the 5th per say, they still have a week and a half before TESS...

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They still need to static fire and mate payload... also, there is an Atlas planned for 12th that may interfere.

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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post

He just confirmed the core is off the test stand since a couple of days. The departure from McGregor is his assumption, but info not see why it would not be transported ASAP.
So keep an eye out for it.

So since it's allegedly left McGreggor (and should reach Florida in the next couple of days if this is true), does that not leave enough time to actually make the April 5 NET date? Or if not on the 5th per say, they still have a week and a half before TESS...

As it is very likely to be spotted when on route, and it has not been seen yet, I guess it still is undergoing post-test inspection and cleaning...
With NASA now heavily involved, everything takes (much) longer... As could be expected for the first human-rated booster since shuttle.. ;)

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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post

He just confirmed the core is off the test stand since a couple of days. The departure from McGregor is his assumption, but info not see why it would not be transported ASAP.
So keep an eye out for it.

So since it's allegedly left McGreggor (and should reach Florida in the next couple of days if this is true), does that not leave enough time to actually make the April 5 NET date? Or if not on the 5th per say, they still have a week and a half before TESS...

Regardless of if it's on its way or not, once it arrives at KSC, it needs:
1. Receiving inspections/checkouts
2. Legs and grid fins installation (and associated checkouts)
3. Mate to 2nd stage
4. Mate to TEL
5. Rollout to LC-39A
6. Static fire (which needs to be no later than 4-5 days before liftoff.  We're only 9 days from the 5th now)
7. Rollback
8. Payload mate (and associated checkouts)
9. Rollout

While no updated launch date is known, I hope this helps with the conversations of why - based on the core's location - a new launch date is expected.
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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post

He just confirmed the core is off the test stand since a couple of days. The departure from McGregor is his assumption, but info not see why it would not be transported ASAP.
So keep an eye out for it.

So since it's allegedly left McGreggor (and should reach Florida in the next couple of days if this is true), does that not leave enough time to actually make the April 5 NET date? Or if not on the 5th per say, they still have a week and a half before TESS...

Regardless of if it's on its way or not, once it arrives at KSC, it needs:
1. Receiving inspections/checkouts
2. Legs and grid fins installation (and associated checkouts)
3. Mate to 2nd stage
4. Mate to TEL
5. Rollout to LC-39A
6. Static fire (which needs to be no later than 4-5 days before liftoff.  We're only 9 days from the 5th now)
7. Rollback
8. Payload mate (and associated checkouts)
9. Rollout

While no updated launch date is known, I hope this helps with the conversations of why - based on the core's location - a new launch date is expected.

Do we even know if the satellite is in France or the U.S. right now?

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Not sure, but Keith seems to say that 1046 has left McGregor.
Keith lives very close to SpaceX complex. Practically his backyard.
Unfortunately he did not yet confirm or elaborated.

Edit: link to FB post

He just confirmed the core is off the test stand since a couple of days. The departure from McGregor is his assumption, but info not see why it would not be transported ASAP.
So keep an eye out for it.

So since it's allegedly left McGreggor (and should reach Florida in the next couple of days if this is true), does that not leave enough time to actually make the April 5 NET date? Or if not on the 5th per say, they still have a week and a half before TESS...

Regardless of if it's on its way or not, once it arrives at KSC, it needs:
1. Receiving inspections/checkouts
2. Legs and grid fins installation (and associated checkouts)
3. Mate to 2nd stage
4. Mate to TEL
5. Rollout to LC-39A
6. Static fire (which needs to be no later than 4-5 days before liftoff.  We're only 9 days from the 5th now)
7. Rollback
8. Payload mate (and associated checkouts)
9. Rollout

While no updated launch date is known, I hope this helps with the conversations of why - based on the core's location - a new launch date is expected.

Do we even know if the satellite is in France or the U.S. right now?
I haven't found any evidence that it is in the US at this time. As of December 2017 there was a government mandate by the Bangladesh Telecommunication Regulatory Commission (BTRC) that the launch occur by the end of June 2018. Also at that time the satellite was reported by State Minister for Post and Telecommunications Tarana Halim to be 85% ready at TAS's manufacturing facility.
Source: http://www.dnaindia.com/science/report-dhaka-to-launch-bangabandhu-1-satellite-in-2018-2455711

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If you go to the "News" section of the TAS (thalesgroup.com) site, they have news articles for spacecraft being delivered to launch sites for integration, for example, "Sentinel-3B arrives at Plesetsk Cosmodrome" and "Two more O3b satellites arrive at launch site". There is no such article for Bangabandhu-1, FWIW.
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