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This launch schedule has proven accurate thus far:
A user on the 9ifly posted this regarding to the launch schedule from Xichang for the remainder of the year. Knowing that launch opperations alternate between LC-2 and LC-3 we can determine several things. (The first two launches listed were Tianlian-1 05 and Yaogan-30 Group 10)
August 6th to August 8th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ChinaSat-2E
August 23th to August 25nd: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
September 8th to September 9th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ChinaSat-9B
September 23rd to September 25th: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
October 16th to October 18th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
November 2nd to November 4th: LC-3 - CZ-3B - ?
November 26th to November 28th: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?
December 13th to December 15th: LC-3 - CZ-2D - ?
December 29th to January 1st: LC-2 - CZ-3B - ?

As of this post, the satellite or satellites aboard are unknown.  Given the current circumstances regarding spaceflight coverage behind the digital Bamboo Curtain, the next information to work with may be launch NOTAM publication.


What are the sources for these?
China launch schedule
2021
?? - ?? - CZ-4B - XSLC, LC?

?? - Beidou-3 Buwang-1 - CZ-3C - XSLC, LC?

?? - ??, ?? - CZ-3B/G? (Y75) - XSLC, LC?

Changes on January 9th, 2020
Changes on September 10th, 2020
Changes on August 29, 2021


Hypothetical launch schedule:
China launch schedule

2021

October 24 16-18 TBD - Shijian-21 - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC2 - 01:27 ~01:22

Early November 2-4 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC3

November 26-28 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC2

December 13-15 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC3

December 29-January 1, 2022 - Tianji Guganwang Gaogui (×2) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC2

TBD? TBD September 20 23 - Yaogan-30 Group-11, Tianqi-? "Yan'an-1" - CZ-2C (Y49) - XSLC, LC3?
thread

?? - ?? - CZ-2D - XSLC, LC?

?? - Beidou-3 Buwang-1(?) - CZ-3C - XSLC, LC?

?? - Jianyang-1- CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?

?? - TECHO-1 (Qingwang-1) - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?

TBD July 5 (or 6) - Tianhui-3 (GEOSAR) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC?
thread

?? - Zhongxing-6D - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC?

?? - ??, ?? - CZ-3B/G? (Y75) - XSLC, LC?

?? - ?? - CZ-4B - XSLC, LC?

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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - NET 16 October 2021?
« Reply #1 on: 10/18/2021 06:38 pm »
Launch has likely been postponed due to issues with SY-10.
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - NET 16 October 2021?
« Reply #2 on: 10/18/2021 06:58 pm »
Launch has likely been postponed due to issues with SY-10.
Further on your thought:

If there are commonalities, yes, quite likely.

Apparently, the launch vehicle performed nominally.  Again, apparently, the problem or problems were with the spacecraft.

Are SY-10 and this mystery spacecraft the same make and model?  Or do they share critical components?  🤔
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - NET 16 October 2021?
« Reply #3 on: 10/18/2021 07:04 pm »
Launch has likely been postponed due to issues with SY-10.
Further on your thought:

If there are commonalities, yes, quite likely.

Apparently, the launch vehicle performed nominally.  Again, apparently, the problem or problems were with the spacecraft.

Are SY-10 and this mystery spacecraft the same make and model?  Or do they share critical components?  🤔
I'm thinking they wanted to do an investigation on the whole situation to rule any issues the rocket could have caused. This would have put the launch campaigns for future CZ-3B missions on hold.
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - NET 16 October 2021?
« Reply #4 on: 10/19/2021 02:16 am »
Launch has likely been postponed due to issues with SY-10.
The Shiyan-10 satellite has reactivated itself, but time will tell if another CZ-3 launch from Xichang launch will happen this month.

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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - NET 16 October 2021?
« Reply #5 on: 10/19/2021 04:02 pm »
A2699/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2815N10202E006
A) ZPKM B) 2110240115 C) 2110240145
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202
WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. ALL ACFT ARE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA.
F) GND G) UNL

A2700/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZPKM/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2718N10808E026
A) ZPKM B) 2110240117 C) 2110240148
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N272159E1083650-N273125E1074313-N271528E1073946-N270603E1083315
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL

A2701/21 NOTAMN
Q) ZXXX/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/2603N11412E016
A) ZSHA ZGZU B) 2110240119 C) 2110240149
E) A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY:
N260808E1142921,N261444E1140013,N255857E1135553,N255223E1142456
BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY
RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL.
F) GND G) UNL
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - NET 16 October 2021?
« Reply #6 on: 10/19/2021 05:33 pm »
About a week later then the launch schedule shared earlier this year.
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #7 on: 10/19/2021 08:50 pm »
An easier to decode format showing launch planned for October 24 at about 01:22 UTC

A2699/21 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED CENTERED AT N2815E10202 WITH RADIUS OF 10KM. VERTICAL LIMITS:GND-UNL. ALL ACFT ARE
FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. GND - UNL, 24 OCT 01:15
2021 UNTIL 24 OCT 01:45 2021. CREATED: 19 OCT 11:31 2021

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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #8 on: 10/19/2021 08:56 pm »
Well, an unexpected launch time for a GTO launch from Xichang.
Only several spin-stabilized FY-2 meteosats were launched at about 01:00 UTC.
But the FY-2 series is over...
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #9 on: 10/19/2021 09:08 pm »
Beidou 3GEO 3 was launched at 01:43 UTC and was placed at 111E.
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #10 on: 10/19/2021 09:24 pm »
Chinasat-6D is intended for 125°E and could be a candidate.

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Chinasat-6D is intended for 125°E and could be a candidate.
A Volga-Dnepr AN-124 transported a satellite from Beijing to Xichang on October 15th. If this was ChinaSat 6D then it's not launching on this upcoming mission.
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Another possible candidate for this flight is a third TJS SIGNIT GEO satellite to join TJS-1 and TJS-4. But due to the 9ifly forum having it's Chinese launch threads locked, we probably won't know until after launch.  :-X
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #13 on: 10/20/2021 08:25 am »
Another (Taiwanese?) reservation:

P3905/21 NOTAMN
Q) RJJJ/QXXXX/IV/NBO/E/000/999/2208N12740E029
A) RJJJ B) 2110240121 C) 2110240154
E) DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON OCT 24, 2021
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON OCT 24, 2021, FROM 01:21-01:54 UTC
AREA:
220618N1281024E 222449N1271539E 220931N1270944E
215102N1280424E, FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE: SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY
F) SFC G) UNL
CREATED: 20 Oct 2021 03:23:00
SOURCE: RJAAYNYX
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #14 on: 10/20/2021 09:07 am »
Another format below; this is for CZ-3B 2nd stage debris (White area in image below to be compared with Chinasat-9B similar area in orange, 20km East))

P3905/21 - DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES,THE FLIGHT SAFETY OF THE AIRCRAFT IN
FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED ON OCT 24, 2021
DETAILS ARE AS FOLLOWS:
ON OCT 24, 2021, FROM 01:21-01:54 UTC
AREA:
220618N1281024E 222449N1271539E 220931N1270944E
215102N1280424E,FOUR-POINT CONNECTION RANGE.
VERTICAL ALTITUDE:SFC-UNL
RMK/ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLIGHT SAFETY. SFC - UNL,
24 OCT 01:21 2021 UNTIL 24 OCT 01:54 2021. CREATED: 20 OCT 03:23 2021
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Re: ?? - CZ-3B/G? - Xichang - 24 October 2021 (~01:22 UTC)
« Reply #16 on: 10/24/2021 02:03 am »
T-0,01:27 UTC
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SAST is the prime satellite contractor for this satellite, of which the official purpose is "validation of on orbit space debris reduction technologies".

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9ifly says the serial number is Y83
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More images of the rocket before launch...
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http://www.news.cn/english/2021-10/24/c_1310265138.htm

China launches Shijian-21 satellite
Source: Xinhua| 2021-10-24 11:15:23

XICHANG, Oct. 24 (Xinhua) -- China successfully launched a new satellite from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in southwest China's Sichuan Province Sunday.

The satellite, Shijian-21, was launched at 9:27 a.m. (Beijing Time) by a Long March-3B carrier rocket and entered the planned orbit successfully.

The satellite will be mainly used to test and verify space debris mitigation technologies.

This launch marked the 393rd mission for the Long March series carrier rockets.

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2021-094A/49330 in 226 x 35815 km x 28.47° (S/C)
2021-094B/49331 in 265 x 35096 km x 28.49° (3rd stage)
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2021年10月24日
09时27分03.780秒

= 01:27:03.780 UTC

CZ-3B/G2 Y83
LC 2
« Last Edit: 10/24/2021 09:24 am by Alter Sachse »
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Long March-3B launches Shijian-21

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From spacenews:

So far this is consistent with testing deliberate grappling and deorbit of a secondary body for debris removal purposes.

If they attach to this secondary body and deorbit it then it would be a world first, correct?

The important capabilities are nearly the same as the MEV by Northrop Grumman though.

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2021-094A/49330 in 226 x 35815 km x 28.47° (S/C)
2021-094B/49331 in 265 x 35096 km x 28.49° (3rd stage)

Update with new object C ("SJ-21 AKM" according to SpaceTrack) for epoch Nov 6 15:05 UTC:
SJ-21:            2021-094A/49330 in 35859 x 35876 km x 8.12° / Long: 151.87°E/ Lat: 1.88°N
"SJ-21 AKM": 2021-094C/49382 in 35861 x 35875 km x 8.12° / Long: 151.95° E/ Lat: 1.89°N

At that time the two objects were about 60 km apart

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Separation distance update:
Epoch November 14, 14:12UTC: separation distance between SJ 21 and "SJ 21 AKM" was down to 11.4 km

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On Dec 14-15 both objects maneuvered to rise height and increase speed of western drift. They are still close to each other.
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Since Dec 21, object A changed his drift direction to eastern and on Jan 10 stopped at 95.1 E.
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So this might have happened:
<snip>
Chinese MEV?
More an orbital transfer vehicle (OTV).  The MEV (semi)permanently assumes attitude control and orbital adjustments for an otherwise functioning satellite.

Let's see 👀 what happens next.
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Next we have got SJ-21(A) at 13.4 E at slow drift again. So she made it from 99° to 13° in just five days. Well done Xi'an comrades.
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And Beidou G2 was left at 36076x38880 km.
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China’s Shijian-21 spacecraft towed a dead satellite high above graveyard orbit [dated Jan. 27]

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China’s Shijian-21 space debris mitigation satellite has docked with a defunct Chinese satellite to drastically alter its geostationary orbit, demonstrating capabilities only previously exhibited by the United States.

Data and tracking from space monitoring firms show that Shijian-21 has been conducting sophisticated rendezvous and proximity operations (RPO) with other objects in and around the geostationary orbit belt since its launch in October last year.

This activity culminated in Shijian-21 docking with the defunct Beidou-2 G2 navigation satellite and towing it above the crowded belt of geostationary orbit some 36,000 kilometers above the equator.

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Brien Flewelling of ExoAnalytic Solutions, speaking during a webinar hosted by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and the Secure World Foundation, said that Shijian-21 performed a large burn Jan.22, taking the Beidou-2 G2 satellite 3,000 kilometers above the GEO belt.

The docking and subsequent engine burn — which was unusually large, taking it beyond the usual “graveyard” orbit of 300 kilometers above GEO — has effectively moved it out of harm’s way.

Shijian-21 undocked from Beidou-2 G2 on Jan. 26, leaving the defunct satellite in a disposal orbit. Shijian-21 has sinced returned to GEO, according to newly-released tracking data from U.S. Space Force’s 18th Space Control Squadron (SPCS).

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Here's the mission patch, since it hasn't been posted in this thread yet.

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In another thread I already wrote about the mysterious re-designation of Shijian-17-02 and Shijian-17-03 into Shiyan-12-01 and Shiyan-12-02. Now based on another commemorative cover I learned that a similar re-designation occured before launch of Shijian-21. His orginal name was Shiyan-11. Under those name a satellite was finaly sent into orbit one month later on board a KZ-1A launcher.
It is likely that Shijian and Shiyan are only cover designationas whereas their realy names remains in the dark.

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Hey limen4, could you repost the earlier message you reference?  I can't find it.

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