Author Topic: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET September 2025  (Read 95103 times)

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Summer approaches, and the #Artemis II astronauts are celebrating their kids’ graduations, studying @NASA_Orion reentry procedures, and participating in group bonding kickball games.
 
Check out another weekly update from @Astro_Reid:
https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1795486503700762733

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From an Artemis II updates thread:

NASA Announces its Artemis II Backup Crew Member for Moon Mission

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NASA has selected astronaut Andre Douglas as its backup crew member for the agency’s Artemis II test flight, the first crewed mission under NASA’s Artemis campaign.

Douglas will train alongside NASA astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, and Christina Koch, and Canadian Space Agency (CSA) astronaut Jeremy Hansen.

I'm surprised that one astronaut is serving as backup for three astronauts. Don't the three prime astronauts have different jobs to do and get different training? How can the backup be trained properly for three jobs?

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From an Artemis II updates thread:

NASA Announces its Artemis II Backup Crew Member for Moon Mission

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NASA has selected astronaut Andre Douglas as its backup crew member for the agency’s Artemis II test flight, the first crewed mission under NASA’s Artemis campaign.

Douglas will train alongside NASA astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, and Christina Koch, and Canadian Space Agency (CSA) astronaut Jeremy Hansen.

I'm surprised that one astronaut is serving as backup for three astronauts. Don't the three prime astronauts have different jobs to do and get different training? How can the backup be trained properly for three jobs?
Since there is no landing and no visit to the Gateway Station,  there is probably not that heavy of a workload expected on this flight.

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https://twitter.com/enneps/status/1812793813213003813

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Compilation Time-lapse of multiple retraction tests performed  over 3 hours last weeks by NASA teams on the Crew Access Arm of the SLS MLT at LC-39B at KSC, as part of preparations for the Artemis II mission.
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Livestream of offloading


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Artemis II crew poster published by NASA: https://images.nasa.gov/details/ArtemisIICrewPoster.

See also Bill Nelson's twit (currently: post on X):
https://twitter.com/SenBillNelson/status/1816526330969681994

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Artemis II Core Stage in the VAB and Congress has SLS questions

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Jul 28, 2024
Even as the SLS Core Stage for Artemis II now waits at the launch site to be stacked for the mission, the changing makeup of Congress is leading to new questions about the future of NASA's launch vehicle.  The agency's Pegasus barge delivered Core Stage-2 to Kennedy Space Center on July 23rd and the next day the SLS sustainer stage was rolled into the Vehicle Assembly Building.

In this video, I'll cover the delivery events, some of the news reported by media after interviews at KSC, at take the latest look at the big picture for the Artemis II schedule.

There's a couple of news and notes items to cover, and also this new watch item about the future of SLS, as the Senate appropriations bill signals maybe a different point of view.  The report accompanying the bill refers to a NASA Inspector General report from last October again questioning SLS costs, and this time the Senate seems willing to pursue that line of questioning and maybe even an analysis by NASA of commercial heavy-lift options in the next decade.

Imagery is courtesy of NASA, except where noted.

00:00 Intro
00:55 Artemis II Core Stage now in the VAB waiting for stacking
05:02 The big picture for Artemis II after the latest SLS delivery
09:34 Some other news and notes about ESM-3 and future Pegasus SLS deliveries
11:16 Senate appropriations has questions for NASA about the future of SLS
15:15 Thanks for watching!

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A Practiced Escape

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In preparation for NASA’s Artemis II crewed mission, teams at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida practice getting out of the emergency escape, or egress, basket on Aug. 9, 2024. The baskets, similar to gondolas on ski lifts, are used in the case of a pad abort emergency to enable astronauts and other pad personnel a way to quickly escape from the mobile launcher to the base of the pad and where waiting emergency transport vehicles will then drive them away.

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After returning from a lunar geology training in Iceland, @Astro_Reid and the team were fitted for their Orion Crew Survival System spacesuits — this is what they will wear during reentry and landing of the Artemis II mission.

Another exciting week for the #Artemis II crew!

https://twitter.com/NASAArtemis/status/1824521129379213473

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A good article.

I'm surprised by this though: "it is why NASA has already delayed Artemis II from this year into September 2025." I thought the delay of Artemis I and the reuse of Orion components already pushed A2 out of 2024?


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A good article.

I'm surprised by this though: "it is why NASA has already delayed Artemis II from this year into September 2025." I thought the delay of Artemis I and the reuse of Orion components already pushed A2 out of 2024?

No, the reuse of certain components was going to cause an 18 month delay between Artemis I and II but it ended up being less of an issue than expected. The issue that caused the delay from 2024 to 2025 is the heatshield issue.

https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/nasa-shares-progress-toward-early-artemis-moon-missions-with-crew/

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Berger concludes with, "don't expect an official decision soon." This seems ... wrong. Of course Berger has excellent sources and I have none. Still, the best choice is for NASA to say that based on the Independent Review Team report they are confident they will fly Artemis II in Sep. 2025, pending a selection of the re-entry profile. If in April 2025 they announce there is no re-entry profile in which they have confidence they can slip the launch date then.

Unless of course the review team report shows there's no way to fly safely with the current heatshield, in which case they better announce that and get to work on dis-assembly pronto!
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In connection with NASA's decision to return Starliner to Earth uncrewed, we've heard a great deal recently about how NASA has learned the lessons of Challenger and Columbia. But I'm wondering whether it's not so much that NASA has changed but rather that it's easier make rational decisions about a spacecraft built by an external party. In other words, NASA can blame Starliner's problems on Boeing. That's much more difficult with Orion.

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In connection with NASA's decision to return Starliner to Earth uncrewed, we've heard a great deal recently about how NASA has learned the lessons of Challenger and Columbia. But I'm wondering whether it's not so much that NASA has changed but rather that it's easier make rational decisions about a spacecraft built by an external party. In other words, NASA can blame Starliner's problems on Boeing. That's much more difficult with Orion.
boeing also built the shuttle. The illusion of who "owns" the craft doesn't really matter. I think nasa made the starliner decision because dragon exists. If it was starliner or the russians, nasa totally would've used starliner.

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