Peter Beck got caught lying being dishonest:https://twitter.com/esuse09/status/1828826956961595726Quote from: Erik S (likely Erik Susemichel, SpaceX Director of Commercial Launch Sales)Quote from: Peter BeckThis is why our customers fly on Electron, orbital elements are provided immediately after separation with extremely high accuracy. Nobody should ever have to go looking for their spacecraft.To be clear, we also deliver extremely high accuracy orbital elements within minutes of spacecraft separation (pending telemetry coverage). The expedience of delivery of orbital data is not an Electron differentiator.
Quote from: Peter BeckThis is why our customers fly on Electron, orbital elements are provided immediately after separation with extremely high accuracy. Nobody should ever have to go looking for their spacecraft.To be clear, we also deliver extremely high accuracy orbital elements within minutes of spacecraft separation (pending telemetry coverage). The expedience of delivery of orbital data is not an Electron differentiator.
This is why our customers fly on Electron, orbital elements are provided immediately after separation with extremely high accuracy. Nobody should ever have to go looking for their spacecraft.
QuoteCould spacex provide initial orbital data using starlink? They will doing an in space laser communication test very soon so that might become possible?They do provide initial data, but after 10 days that data is no longer useful
Could spacex provide initial orbital data using starlink? They will doing an in space laser communication test very soon so that might become possible?
Quotewould using individual payload delivery from a small lift rocket provider aid this, or am i misunderstandingYes - this is an advantage of doing a single-payload or few-payload launch on a small rocket like Electron. Much easier to ID the objects and get individual orbital data
would using individual payload delivery from a small lift rocket provider aid this, or am i misunderstanding
The joys of rideshare, you get what you pay for. Space tugs should help here. NB Curie kick stage is basically space tug.
So I guess Jonathan McDowell would be the real "liar," then? He's the one who said "This is an ongoing problem with these rideshare launches: long delays in getting orbit data, leading to inability to contact the satellite during the first month of life, which all too often leads to loss of mission. Really needs to be addressed." Which is what Peter replied to (making it clear that Peter was specifically comparing with orbital elements from Transporter missions, not dedicated Falcon 9 rides).https://x.com/planet4589/status/1828431667838755026
Not at all, as your later post shows, Jonathan McDowell admits that SpaceX does provide orbital elements immediately after separation, he was talking about orbit data from Space Force several days after launch. Peter Beck chose to interpret McDowell's tweet to mean something else, that's on him.
Quote from: thespacecow on 08/30/2024 04:29 amNot at all, as your later post shows, Jonathan McDowell admits that SpaceX does provide orbital elements immediately after separation, he was talking about orbit data from Space Force several days after launch. Peter Beck chose to interpret McDowell's tweet to mean something else, that's on him.It's possible that Peter Beck misinterpreted Jonathan McDowell's tweet in the same way I did. Jumping to saying he was "lying being dishonest," as you did, seems rather unfair.
So two problems: flaky power supply and bad TLEs.The latter is understandable; the Transporter 11 payloads have not yet been cataloged by Space Force so they are presumably relying on SpaceX's post-deployment states, which are pretty stale after 11 days.[...]This is an ongoing problem with these rideshare launches: long delays in getting orbit data, leading to inability to contact the satellite during the first month of life, which all too often leads to loss of mission. Really needs to be addressed.
Could spacex provide initial orbital data using starlink? They will doing an in space laser communication test very soon so that might become possible?[...]They do provide initial data, but after 10 days that data is no longer useful
would using individual payload delivery from a small lift rocket provider aid this, or am i misunderstanding[...]Yes - this is an advantage of doing a single-payload or few-payload launch on a small rocket like Electron. Much easier to ID the objects and get individual orbital data
If the upper stage had endurance though, why not simply deploy at a slower pace? Wouldn't that provide enough separation to make the train of sats more identifiable?
Congratulations to our founder and CEO, Sir Peter Beck @Peter_J_Beck, officially recognised today for services to the aerospace industry, business and education. Sir Peter is a Knight Companion of the New Zealand Order of Merit, as awarded by the New Zealand representative of King Charles III, the Rt Hon Dame Cindy Kiro.A monumental lifetime achievement that is very well deserved.
Standing on the shoulders of giants at our Space Structures Complex in Middle River, Maryland, as installation continues on the world's largest carbon composite rocket-building machine for our Neutron launch vehicle.
Rocket Lab's Space Structures Complex in Middle River, Maryland, supports the automated production of all large composite structures of the Neutron launch vehicle including the panels that make up the 91 ft (28 meter) length interstage and fairing, 22.9 ft (7 meter) diameter first stage, and the 16.4 ft (5 meter) diameter second stage tank. The site is home to the world's largest AFP machine of its kind, a 90-tonne autonomous machine expected to save around 150,000 manufacturing hours in the Neutron rocket's production process.
Surely SpaceX's 9m BFR Mandrel or 12m ITS tank were larger?
https://twitter.com/RocketLab/status/1832164798127288730QuoteStanding on the shoulders of giants at our Space Structures Complex in Middle River, Maryland, as installation continues on the world's largest carbon composite rocket-building machine for our Neutron launch vehicle.Space Structures ComplexQuoteRocket Lab's Space Structures Complex in Middle River, Maryland, supports the automated production of all large composite structures of the Neutron launch vehicle including the panels that make up the 91 ft (28 meter) length interstage and fairing, 22.9 ft (7 meter) diameter first stage, and the 16.4 ft (5 meter) diameter second stage tank. The site is home to the world's largest AFP machine of its kind, a 90-tonne autonomous machine expected to save around 150,000 manufacturing hours in the Neutron rocket's production process.Surely SpaceX's 9m BFR Mandrel or 12m ITS tank were larger?
Since the old Martin facility is already set up for loading stages onto barges, presumably Rocketlab will be having their recovery barge pull double-duty to transport these from Middle River out through Chesapeake bay and around to Wallops to unload at their future dock, same as they would for downrange recoveries. Either that, or they only intend to ever use Middle River for laying up individual panels and domes, and all integration will occur in the big tent at Causeway Rd. That seems like a lot of extra effort to maintain two nearby but still separated facilities to perform the job of one, and Middle River has gotten the hard-to-move-at-a-late-date equipment.
The Marine Operations & Logistics Specialist will initially be based out of Rocket Lab's Production Facilities in Middle River, MD. This person will develop a high performing team that is responsible for the operational planning and execution of the operations teams and equipment required for the transport and launch/recovery support for Rocket Lab’s Neutron launch vehicle.WHAT YOU’LL GET TO DO: • Work with a team of engineers to provide operational guidance during the early stages of developing the Neutron Marine Logistics program • Own the development of operational details for Marine Transport of Neutron flight hardware transport operations at remote sites and at NASA Launch Sites • Develop Routes & Methods of moving oversized cargo from vendors to production facilities • Serve as technical expert and interface for marine service providers required for Neutron Marine Operations including vessel operators, barge providers and Tugboat operations • Build and maintain relationships with key vendors and contractors as needed through the Neutron Marine Logistics system lifecycle • Develop growth strategies for increasing production & shipping rates of Neutron Hardware • Collaborate heavily with Rocket Lab Engineering teams to ensure all systems are operational to support Neutron Marine Logistics • Support Recovery hardware fabrication and testing both remotely and onsite as needed at Wallops Island as well as other facilities
Neutron Transport position is desired to be based out of Rocket Lab's Middle River, MD Production Facility. This engineer will be responsible for the design and development of all Transport Tooling Hardware needed to support large Neutron shipments across the US East Coast. You will interface with critical teams within the Neutron development team including NZ based Ground System Engineers, Neutron Mechanical Systems, Propulsion, Production and more. You will be responsible for successful Neutron Transport Tooling designs and hardware to enable development, production, testing, flight, and recovery. Due to the size and scale of Neutron, many of the components will be required to utilize marine assets to transport hardware between vendors & Rocket Lab Facilities.
Introducing our new Chief Operations Officer, Frank Klein 📢 Frank joins Rocket Lab with 30 years of experience in the automotive industry from his time at Mercedes-Benz and Rivian, and will focus on scaling our production of spacecraft, rockets, and satellite components to meet our growing customer demand of $1bn+ of backlog orders.Full press release:
https://twitter.com/rocketlab/status/1833461103218844064QuoteIntroducing our new Chief Operations Officer, Frank Klein 📢 Frank joins Rocket Lab with 30 years of experience in the automotive industry from his time at Mercedes-Benz and Rivian, and will focus on scaling our production of spacecraft, rockets, and satellite components to meet our growing customer demand of $1bn+ of backlog orders.Full press release: https://www.rocketlabusa.com/updates/rocket-lab-appoints-chief-operations-officer-to-support-company-growth/
