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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #220 on: 01/05/2018 06:55 pm »

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #221 on: 01/05/2018 07:13 pm »
The transmitting location being stated as from an onshore transmitter at CCAFS (in the description section) and dropping the command from the recovery boat sentence.  Maybe those coordinates are a mistake and they didn't get updated?

Hmm.. weird, I didn't see that. Either the onshore transmitter is magic and works that far away or its a misprint in the application (??). Could it just be an expendable launch and therefore no drone ship?

Probably just a copy-paste typo. Would not be the first time we've seen those in a SpaceX application.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #222 on: 01/06/2018 03:27 pm »
The PTScientist Audi Lunar Rovers are planned to be launched in 2019 from Cape Canaveral to the moon, seem like on the F9 not on the heavy...
I didn't find it on the schedule yet...


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On the "Autonomous Landing and Navigation Module" are the two rovers.

The schedule is tight. ALINA is due to launch the two lunar vehicles from Cape Canaveral in 2019 into orbit. A commercial rocket Falcon 9 from Elon Musks company SpaceX is used. It takes about five days to reach the moon for almost 400,000 kilometers. Then she lands automatically, with a safe distance to the Apollo 17 landing site. The goal: The Rover to return to the landing site of the last manned mission of 45 years ago. There, they are to conduct a series of experiments commissioned by NASA and several European universities.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #223 on: 01/08/2018 05:57 pm »
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Will report next Iridium launch date soon.  I CAN report that Iridium 5 will be directed to our orbital Plane #1 - all 10 will go into service there.  It will also be a morning launch - probably a little before 8am local...

https://twitter.com/iridiumboss/status/950440422127489024

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #224 on: 01/08/2018 07:13 pm »
Is there an Iridium 5 thread yet? And does anyone know what days in the next few weeks months that plane #1 is overhead at that time?
Edit: looking into my own questions, it looks like plane #1 will be over VAFB just before 8 am local around March 10, and then again around March 23 because daylight savings sets local time forward an hour.

http://www.rod.sladen.org.uk/iridium.htm
http://www.heavens-above.com/PassSummary.aspx?satid=25291&lat=34.742&lng=-120.5724&loc=747&alt=102&tz=PST&showall=t
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #225 on: 01/08/2018 07:18 pm »
I'll make an Iridium 5 thread soon.  I would expect Iridium 5 NLT mid-March, certainly not in the next few weeks.  There are websites (and probably apps) that track the Iridium constellation.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #226 on: 01/11/2018 02:06 pm »
Seems like confirmation of right-moves to SpaceX CC demo flights:

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NASA’s Commercial Crew Program Target Test Flight Dates

The next generation of American spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to the International Space Station are nearing the final stages of development and evaluation. NASA’s Commercial Crew Program will return human spaceflight launches to U.S. soil, providing reliable and cost-effective access to low-Earth orbit on systems that meet our safety and mission requirements. To meet NASA’s requirements, the commercial providers must demonstrate that their systems are ready to begin regular flights to the space station. Two of those demonstrations are uncrewed flight tests, known as Orbital Flight Test for Boeing, and Demonstration Mission 1 for SpaceX. After the uncrewed flight tests, both companies will execute a flight test with crew prior to being certified by NASA for crew rotation missions. The following schedule reflects the most recent publicly releasable dates for both providers.

Targeted Test Flight Dates:
Boeing Orbital Flight Test (uncrewed): August 2018
Boeing Crew Flight Test (crewed): November 2018
SpaceX Demonstration Mission 1 (uncrewed): August 2018
SpaceX Demonstration Mission 2 (crewed): December 2018

Author Anna HeineyPosted on January 11, 2018

https://blogs.nasa.gov/commercialcrew/2018/01/11/nasas-commercial-crew-program-target-test-flight-dates-2/
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #227 on: 01/11/2018 10:17 pm »
New date and time for PAZ

New date: February 10.  15:22 Spanish Time should be 14:22 UTC, 06:22 PST.

http://www.infodefensa.com/es/2018/01/11/noticia-satelite-lanzara-febrero.html
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #228 on: 01/17/2018 08:40 pm »
A bunch of news articles say that last week (Jan. 12) a government minister in Bangladesh gave a target of March 26-31 for the Bangabandhu-1 launch.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #229 on: 01/17/2018 08:52 pm »
A bunch of news articles say that last week (Jan. 12) a government minister in Bangladesh gave a target of March 26-31 for the Bangabandhu-1 launch.

Looking at the manifest, there's basically no chance of TESS, Bangabandhu-1, and CRS-14 all launching on the dates we currently have.  Expect further changes.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #230 on: 01/18/2018 05:45 am »
A bunch of news articles say that last week (Jan. 12) a government minister in Bangladesh gave a target of March 26-31 for the Bangabandhu-1 launch.

Looking at the manifest, there's basically no chance of TESS, Bangabandhu-1, and CRS-14 all launching on the dates we currently have.  Expect further changes.

CRS-14 has already moved to April.
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #231 on: 01/19/2018 09:43 pm »
A license for launch comms was just granted, NET March 5. (Mission 1382)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81937&RequestTimeout=1000

A license for East coast booster recovery was also granted today, oddly NET February 15. (Mission 1393)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81937&RequestTimeout=1000

Doubt that's Hispasat, and 90% sure that GovSat-1 is Mission 1389 and PAZ is Mission 1400 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81531&RequestTimeout=1000). Still, 1389 has a license for booster recovery (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81937&RequestTimeout=1000), which doesn't fit with the that core being expended after its second flight.

Corrections/refutations/debates welcome!

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #232 on: 01/19/2018 09:47 pm »
A license for launch comms was just granted, NET March 5. (Mission 1382)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81937&RequestTimeout=1000

A license for East coast booster recovery was also granted today, oddly NET February 15. (Mission 1393)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81937&RequestTimeout=1000

Doubt that's Hispasat, and 90% sure that GovSat-1 is Mission 1389 and PAZ is Mission 1400 (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81531&RequestTimeout=1000). Still, 1389 has a license for booster recovery (https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/els/reports/STA_Print.cfm?mode=current&application_seq=81937&RequestTimeout=1000), which doesn't fit with the that core being expended after its second flight.

Corrections/refutations/debates welcome!

1382 is CRS-14
1393 would fit the dates for Hispasat.  Why does that have booster recovery permits?  Hell if I know.
1389 should be GovSat-1
PAZ should be 1400

Maybe the booster recovery permits just won't be used?  Weren't sure yet what the plan would be so they just went ahead and filed the paperwork?

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #233 on: 01/19/2018 11:36 pm »
1382 is CRS-14
1393 would fit the dates for Hispasat.  Why does that have booster recovery permits?  Hell if I know.
1389 should be GovSat-1
PAZ should be 1400

Maybe the booster recovery permits just won't be used?  Weren't sure yet what the plan would be so they just went ahead and filed the paperwork?

heheh, same ;D I've begun to wonder if, realistically, there is any downside to simply filing for a very liberal number of launch/landing licenses, nearly irregardless of planned orbit or actual manifest pressures. It seems that they can be reasonably easily (at least more easily than a new license) swapped about, and the lead time to getting those grants is clearly a bit unwieldy at SpaceX's anticipated launch cadences, and also seems almost guaranteed that it is 100x better to have a license and not need it than the opposite.

So, probably pretty likely as you said that they are just hedging their bets in case manifest delays or shuffling are necessary. Anyways, I'd concur with your core assignments. My first bet for 1393 was Hispasat, as well, was just thrown off by the recovery license. Who knows :D

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #234 on: 01/20/2018 03:47 am »
1382 is CRS-14
1393 would fit the dates for Hispasat.  Why does that have booster recovery permits?  Hell if I know.
1389 should be GovSat-1
PAZ should be 1400

Maybe the booster recovery permits just won't be used?  Weren't sure yet what the plan would be so they just went ahead and filed the paperwork?

heheh, same ;D I've begun to wonder if, realistically, there is any downside to simply filing for a very liberal number of launch/landing licenses, nearly irregardless of planned orbit or actual manifest pressures. It seems that they can be reasonably easily (at least more easily than a new license) swapped about, and the lead time to getting those grants is clearly a bit unwieldy at SpaceX's anticipated launch cadences, and also seems almost guaranteed that it is 100x better to have a license and not need it than the opposite.

So, probably pretty likely as you said that they are just hedging their bets in case manifest delays or shuffling are necessary. Anyways, I'd concur with your core assignments. My first bet for 1393 was Hispasat, as well, was just thrown off by the recovery license. Who knows :D

That was why they switched to the "#### Mission" designator in the first place.  They had been filing with "F9-##" and it was confusing the FCC when SpaceX swapped mission order.  So, the current system uses a mission number that is specific to each payload and not dictated by position in the flight manifest.   
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #235 on: 01/22/2018 12:00 pm »
SpaceX: Iridium-5 to launch in March; government shutdown creates manifest uncertainty -
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2018/01/spacex-iridium-5-launch-shutdown-manifest-uncertainty/

- by Chris Gebhardt:

Iridium element was embargoed until the top of the hour (as in now).
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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #237 on: 01/25/2018 03:01 pm »
1393 would fit the dates for Hispasat.  Why does that have booster recovery permits?  Hell if I know.

We don't yet know whether Hispasat is using a new or reused core, but we do know that the first Block 5 has been built and - according to one rumour - is already at 39A's HIF. It could be a recovery if this is the first Block 5, and it jumps the queue.

There are two more Block 4s left, and I've seen reports that NASA don't want TESS to be on the first Block 5. If Hispasat and TESS used the last two Block 4s, the Block 5 would be used for Bangabandhu-1. That's only 3500 kg. It seems a bit of a waste to expend a Block 4 which might have a chance of a reuse. (Thaicom 8 was 3100kg to GTO, and that booster, B1023, is now one of the side cores for FH Demo.)

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #238 on: 01/25/2018 04:07 pm »
1393 would fit the dates for Hispasat.  Why does that have booster recovery permits?  Hell if I know.

We don't yet know whether Hispasat is using a new or reused core, but we do know that the first Block 5 has been built and - according to one rumour - is already at 39A's HIF. It could be a recovery if this is the first Block 5, and it jumps the queue.

There are two more Block 4s left, and I've seen reports that NASA don't want TESS to be on the first Block 5. If Hispasat and TESS used the last two Block 4s, the Block 5 would be used for Bangabandhu-1. That's only 3500 kg. It seems a bit of a waste to expend a Block 4 which might have a chance of a reuse. (Thaicom 8 was 3100kg to GTO, and that booster, B1023, is now one of the side cores for FH Demo.)

This is not the thread for random rumors.  Everything I've seen points to Hispasat being on a Block 4.  There is no indication a Block 5 would be ready for that flight.  Even if there were, it's probably still expendable at that payload mass.

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Re: SpaceX Manifest Updates Thread 5
« Reply #239 on: 01/25/2018 10:01 pm »
This is not the thread for random rumors.  Everything I've seen points to Hispasat being on a Block 4.  There is no indication a Block 5 would be ready for that flight.  Even if there were, it's probably still expendable at that payload mass.

It will be expended.

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What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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