MOLAB and other rover concepts from apollo era (also, looking for northrop one)

[StraumliBlight]

I'm interested in the lander. I don't know if the lander was associated with the base. But I know somebody did a study of the lander, which was a tall cylinder.

What about the 1971 Boeing Space Tug lander, previously referenced in your article?

[leovinus]

I'm interested in the lander. I don't know if the lander was associated with the base. But I know somebody did a study of the lander, which was a tall cylinder.

What about the 1971 Boeing Space Tug lander, previously referenced in your article?

We even discussed that image here in the Moonbase thread
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=55159.msg2500168#msg2500168
That image is also at
https://archive.org/details/HSF-photo-s76_24320
and not too dissimilar from the construction image in the Lunar Base Synthesis Study (attached)
EDIT: Modified the archive.org link

[Jim]

I'm interested in the lander. I don't know if the lander was associated with the base. But I know somebody did a study of the lander, which was a tall cylinder.

Was it sort of plain?

[Blackstar]

I'm interested in the lander. I don't know if the lander was associated with the base. But I know somebody did a study of the lander, which was a tall cylinder.

What about the 1971 Boeing Space Tug lander, previously referenced in your article?

That's it. Now I need to find the study. I tried searching for "Boeing lunar lander," but I'll include the tug in my search. I know that I have the pdf(s) somewhere.

[StraumliBlight]

That's it. Now I need to find the study. I tried searching for "Boeing lunar lander," but I'll include the tug in my search. I know that I have the pdf(s) somewhere.

NTRS: Future Space Transportation Systems Analysis Study [May 9, 1975]

EDIT: Also multiple "Independent Lunar Surface Sortie" (ILSS) references and images in Future Space Transportation Systems Systems Analysis Study, Phase 1 Technical Report (Boeing) [Dec 19, 1975]

[Blackstar]

Thanks. That is adjacent to it. But I'm pretty sure that I have a study focused solely on the lander. I'll keep looking for it.

[Blackstar]

Still searching. Found this:

https://e05.code.blog/tag/a-compendium-of-future-space-activities/

Still searching for the study. I know there is other artwork as well.

Computer search engines are not the most helpful things.

[Blackstar]

By the way, this is another volume from a study posted above. This volume is the habitat section and is lengthy.

[StraumliBlight]

Still searching. Found this:

https://e05.code.blog/tag/a-compendium-of-future-space-activities/

Still searching for the study. I know there is other artwork as well.

Computer search engines are not the most helpful things.

There's a black and white version of that painting in the 2nd document I posted above, which refers to it as the "Orbiting Lunar Station (8 man)".

[Blackstar]

Yeah, there seem to have been several names, including "Lunar Transport Vehicle." (A google search using Boeing and that term gave me the Apollo lunar rover, and when I restricted the search it gave me nothing useful.)

The thing is probably on my work hard drive, but multiple search efforts have failed. I might have printed a copy, but my office is as messy as my brain.

[leovinus]

Still searching. Found this:

https://e05.code.blog/tag/a-compendium-of-future-space-activities/

Still searching for the study. I know there is other artwork as well.

Computer search engines are not the most helpful things.

Regarding artwork, here are a few pointers. Firstly, the lander image S76-24320 is also at
https://nasaimages.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~16~16~117096~223816
as part of the JSC NASA Human Spaceflight Collection. In addition, it is also part of the this Flickr collection
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/albums/72157635081296147/with/9515801767
titled "Exploration - Lunar by NASA Johnson" Lots of great artwork. When you search that page for  S76-24320 you'll see it is there. There might be other lander images.

Secondly, the lander image description says "The picture appeared in a September 1977 publication from the NASA-JSC Program Planning Office entitled A Compendium of Future Space Activities." A document with that title is mentioned in a JSC document index . where it says "Doc ID 11532  A Compendium of Future Space Activities (Rev C)  10-28-79 ". The JSC document id should be helpful to find more.

Finally, lander image S76-24320 is actually Boeing artwork, right? It says so on the bottom left. So how does Boeing artwork get into a JSC artwork collection? Puzzling.
 

[leovinus]

Thanks. That is adjacent to it. But I'm pretty sure that I have a study focused solely on the lander. I'll keep looking for it.

Is the study you look for in the attached list of references? Those are references from phase 1, NTRS 19750016730.

[LittleBird]

You are reminding me of another rather top heavy looking tug/lander, presumably from 1970 (?) that appeared in Dave Dooling's "The Evolution of the Apollo Spacecraft-2", from Spaceflight, April 1974, pages 127-136. As he noted, it looks rather like a squid.

[leovinus]

You are reminding me of another rather top heavy looking tug/lander, presumably from 1970 (?) that appeared in Dave Dooling's "The Evolution of the Apollo Spacecraft-2", from Spaceflight, April 1974, pages 127-136. As he noted, it looks rather like a squid.

Looks like Lunar Applications of a Spent S-4B/IU Stage /LASS/, cover attached.

[LittleBird]

You are reminding me of another rather top heavy looking tug/lander, presumably from 1970 (?) that appeared in Dave Dooling's "The Evolution of the Apollo Spacecraft-2", from Spaceflight, April 1974, pages 127-136. As he noted, it looks rather like a squid.

Looks like Lunar Applications of a Spent S-4B/IU Stage /LASS/, cover attached.

Nice to see that again, reminds me of Maurice Allward's Missiles and Rockets in which it is redrawn. But tug in "my" image is not an S-IVB. Perhaps the S-70-6... code number at top left may tell us when it dates from ? I was curious because the way Dooling described it is a bit ambiguous between "late-AAP" and "early shuttle era" thinking ... as of course was the era itself ;-)