https://aerospaceamerica.aiaa.org/bringing-home-a-piece-of-space-history/Bringing home a piece of space historyBy Cat Hofacker|January 10, 2025Authors of a technical paper describe how Vanguard 1, the second U.S. satellite, could be retrieved, analyzed and displayed at one of the Smithsonian museumsAIAA SCITECH FORUM, ORLANDO Fla. — The Vanguard 1 spacecraft narrowly missed out on the distinction of being the first U.S. satellite, an honor that of course goes to Explorer 1, which was launched two months earlier in January 1958. It is, however, the first satellite to convert sunlight to electricity.Now, the volleyball-sized aluminum sphere with spike-like antennas could gain another distinction. Engineers and a research associate from Virginia-based consulting firm Booz Allen Hamilton have suggested that Vanguard 1’s original owners, the Naval Research Laboratory and later NASA, could capture it in orbit and return it to Earth. They outlined how this might be done in the paper, “Retrieving History: Options for Returning Vanguard 1 to Earth,” presented at the conference here.Recovering satellites isn’t an entirely new concept, but if the mission is undertaken and succeeds, Vanguard 1 would be the oldest satellite ever recovered.
There are also some sticky policy issues. If the US government does this, then it indicates that the US now has the ability to retrieve objects from space.
Quote from: Blackstar on 01/12/2025 02:23 pmThere are also some sticky policy issues. If the US government does this, then it indicates that the US now has the ability to retrieve objects from space.Didn't we have this for thirty years with the Space Shuttle?
This is the abstract to one of the presentations:Retrieving History: Options for Returning Vanguard 1 to EarthMatt A Bille*1, Michael Ferguson1, Christopher Vanwy1, William Austin1, Catherine Russell1, Dakota Welch11Booz Allen Hamilton Inc, McLean, Virginia, United StatesABSTRACT. In 1958, the Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) Vanguard 1 microsatellite reached orbit.<snip>Vanguard 1’s current characteristics, most notably spin rate, will dictate the practicality of and approach to a capture. Mission stages include Part 1 (rendezvous, close imaging, and evaluation) and Part 2 (if practical, capture and return to Earth). These could be done by a robotic imager, followed by either a retrieval vehicle (which might be the same as the imager) or a crewed vehicle. The satellite could be returned directly to Earth, moved to a lower orbit for retrieval, or taken to the International Space Station (ISS) to be repackaged for its journey to Earth and then the Smithsonian National Air & Space Museum.<snip>
Quote from: Thorny on 01/12/2025 02:32 pmQuote from: Blackstar on 01/12/2025 02:23 pmThere are also some sticky policy issues. If the US government does this, then it indicates that the US now has the ability to retrieve objects from space.Didn't we have this for thirty years with the Space Shuttle?The US had that capability during the entire shuttle program although it was only done a few times.
Vangard 1 and the upper stage that placed it in orbit were beyond the range of the Shuttle.
Quote from: AmigaClone on 01/12/2025 03:03 pmQuote from: Thorny on 01/12/2025 02:32 pmQuote from: Blackstar on 01/12/2025 02:23 pmThere are also some sticky policy issues. If the US government does this, then it indicates that the US now has the ability to retrieve objects from space.Didn't we have this for thirty years with the Space Shuttle?The US had that capability during the entire shuttle program although it was only done a few times.The capability was used more than is generally given credit, although admittedly mostly on spacecraft that were originally placed in orbit by a shuttle in the first place (several SPAS, several SPARTAN, PDP, LDEF, EURECA, SFU, and others I can't recall at the moment).
Well, if we leave Vanguard 1 up there, it'll come down at some point and be gone forever.
Quote from: Jorge on 01/13/2025 04:12 amQuote from: AmigaClone on 01/12/2025 03:03 pmQuote from: Thorny on 01/12/2025 02:32 pmQuote from: Blackstar on 01/12/2025 02:23 pmThere are also some sticky policy issues. If the US government does this, then it indicates that the US now has the ability to retrieve objects from space.Didn't we have this for thirty years with the Space Shuttle?The US had that capability during the entire shuttle program although it was only done a few times.The capability was used more than is generally given credit, although admittedly mostly on spacecraft that were originally placed in orbit by a shuttle in the first place (several SPAS, several SPARTAN, PDP, LDEF, EURECA, SFU, and others I can't recall at the moment). Can't help asking about the X-37B ? Do we think it has any such capability-esp now that it has recently done an HEO mission ?
Quote from: Jim on 12/19/2023 05:47 pmQuote from: edkyle99 on 12/19/2023 05:37 pmQuote from: LittleBird on 12/19/2023 05:30 pmDid the shuttle in the end ever return any other free flying satellites apart from LDEF ?STS-41-C (launch) / STS-32R (retrieve): LDEFSTS-41-B (launch) / STS-51-A (retrieve): Palapa B-2 and Westar 6STS-46 (launch) / STS-57 (retrieve): EURECAH-II Test Vehicle 3 (launch) / STS-72 (retrieve): Space Flyer Unit https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/15094/what-satellites-did-the-shuttle-retrieve-from-orbit - Ed KyleIt retrieved others but did not return themHSTIntetsat VISyncom IVSolar MaxAlso, deployed, retrieved and returnedSeveral SPARTANs and SPASPlus the MPLMs, which were launched and retrieved 11 times, but maybe don't count because they weren't free-flyers. (They were always attached to either the shuttle, the station or both.)
Quote from: edkyle99 on 12/19/2023 05:37 pmQuote from: LittleBird on 12/19/2023 05:30 pmDid the shuttle in the end ever return any other free flying satellites apart from LDEF ?STS-41-C (launch) / STS-32R (retrieve): LDEFSTS-41-B (launch) / STS-51-A (retrieve): Palapa B-2 and Westar 6STS-46 (launch) / STS-57 (retrieve): EURECAH-II Test Vehicle 3 (launch) / STS-72 (retrieve): Space Flyer Unit https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/15094/what-satellites-did-the-shuttle-retrieve-from-orbit - Ed KyleIt retrieved others but did not return themHSTIntetsat VISyncom IVSolar MaxAlso, deployed, retrieved and returnedSeveral SPARTANs and SPAS
Quote from: LittleBird on 12/19/2023 05:30 pmDid the shuttle in the end ever return any other free flying satellites apart from LDEF ?STS-41-C (launch) / STS-32R (retrieve): LDEFSTS-41-B (launch) / STS-51-A (retrieve): Palapa B-2 and Westar 6STS-46 (launch) / STS-57 (retrieve): EURECAH-II Test Vehicle 3 (launch) / STS-72 (retrieve): Space Flyer Unit https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/15094/what-satellites-did-the-shuttle-retrieve-from-orbit - Ed Kyle
Did the shuttle in the end ever return any other free flying satellites apart from LDEF ?
The closest we've ever gotten to that was retrieving Surveyor 3's camera and that was only in the vacuum of space 2-1/2 years. ...
The closest we've ever gotten to that was retrieving Surveyor 3's camera and that was only in the vacuum of space 2-1/2 years.
Quote from: laszlo on 01/18/2025 12:54 pmLDEF - 5 years, 9 months in LEO.ISS - decades, and they can just duck outside and detach a piece for return and study.Ah, I forgot about those. None of the examples proferred here are close to more than six decades in space, admittedly, but still we do have instances of recovering objects up there for a reasonably lengthy period.
LDEF - 5 years, 9 months in LEO.ISS - decades, and they can just duck outside and detach a piece for return and study.