Author Topic: Hongyun demo - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (23:51 UTC)  (Read 23677 times)

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Hongyan (鴻雁) is the CASC 300+ satellite constellation, while Hongyun (虹云) is CASIC's 156-satellite LEO comms project. Seems this launch is the latter, if the news is correct (Hongyun on a CZ-11, Dec 21).
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Re: Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #1 on: 12/19/2018 03:23 pm »
Hongyan (鴻雁) is the CASC 300+ satellite constellation, while Hongyun (虹云) is CASIC's 156-satellite LEO comms project. Seems this launch is the latter, if the news is correct (Hongyun on a CZ-11, Dec 21).

So, basically I'm confusing the sats (?)

It is unfortunate that the 2 names sounds very similar in Mandarin when their meanings are very much unrelated: Hongyan means "Big Geese" while Hongyun means "Rainbow Clouds".  :-\
« Last Edit: 12/19/2018 03:30 pm by Satori »
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Re: Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #2 on: 12/19/2018 03:34 pm »
Hongyan (鴻雁) is the CASC 300+ satellite constellation, while Hongyun (虹云) is CASIC's 156-satellite LEO comms project. Seems this launch is the latter, if the news is correct (Hongyun on a CZ-11, Dec 21).

So, basically I'm confusing the sats (?)

It is unfortunate that the 2 names sounds very similar in Mandarin when their meanings are very much unrelated: Hongyan means "Big Geese" while Hongyun means "Rainbow Clouds".  :-\

At least the two state entities behind them don't appear similar. Oh, wait...

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Re: Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #3 on: 12/19/2018 03:55 pm »
Hongyan (鴻雁) is the CASC 300+ satellite constellation, while Hongyun (虹云) is CASIC's 156-satellite LEO comms project. Seems this launch is the latter, if the news is correct (Hongyun on a CZ-11, Dec 21).

So, basically I'm confusing the sats (?)

It is unfortunate that the 2 names sounds very similar in Mandarin when their meanings are very much unrelated: Hongyan means "Big Geese" while Hongyun means "Rainbow Clouds".  :-\

At least the two state entities behind them don't appear similar. Oh, wait...

The strange thing is that CASIC is launching its own test satellite on its direct competitor's rocket (maybe originally planned on the KZ-11?) - think OneWeb launching on Falcon 9!
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #4 on: 12/20/2018 12:31 pm »
Nothing new has been reported for this launch (even one of the sources that gave the Dec. 21 launch date seems unsure if this is going on).
Launch time still unknown.
No NOTAMs.
No official reports from CASIC/CAST/CALT/......

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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #5 on: 12/20/2018 07:09 pm »
“虹云工程”
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #6 on: 12/20/2018 10:47 pm »
“虹云工程”

Hongyun Gongcheng (Rainbow Cloud Engineering)

Here's the 9ifly thread. No information yet on the launch time.

http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-91578-2-1.html
« Last Edit: 12/20/2018 10:53 pm by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #7 on: 12/21/2018 01:01 am »
There's still absolutely no news related to this launch as of right now, including the launch time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #8 on: 12/21/2018 03:23 am »
Looks like to have been postponed to between 7 and 8 am tomorrow (21 December 23:00 to 22 December 00:00 UTC)

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=91578&page=3&authorid=28753

"Space enthusiasts ' Network news postponed until 7:00 tomorrow at 8:00"

9ifly is referring to spaceflightfans.cn

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-11-rocket-launch-hongyun1-satellite?instance_id=2174

"When: 2018-12-22 @ 07:00 – 08:00"
« Last Edit: 12/21/2018 03:35 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #9 on: 12/21/2018 07:05 am »
A5441/18 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N374910E0985727-N384630E0991730-N384039E0994404-N374325E0992342 BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 21 DEC 23:46 2018 UNTIL 22 DEC 00:28 2018. CREATED: 21 DEC 07:01 2018
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018
« Reply #10 on: 12/21/2018 08:36 am »
A5441/18 - A TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N374910E0985727-N384630E0991730-N384039E0994404-N374325E0992342 BACK TO START. ALL ACFT ARE FORBIDDEN TO FLY INTO THE TEMPORARY RESTRICTED AREA. VERTICAL LIMITS: GND-UNL. GND - UNL, 21 DEC 23:46 2018 UNTIL 22 DEC 00:28 2018. CREATED: 21 DEC 07:01 2018
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #11 on: 12/21/2018 11:26 am »
I was hoping to see a new patch luke that of the Centispace 1

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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #12 on: 12/21/2018 10:50 pm »
Launch should be happening about now.
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #13 on: 12/21/2018 10:54 pm »
Some images posted at 9ifly. Not sure if they are from this launch.

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=91578&page=4&authorid=36089
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Some images posted at 9ifly. Not sure if they are from this launch.

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=91578&page=4&authorid=36089

Stock models I believe.
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #16 on: 12/21/2018 11:00 pm »
Launch code should be 01-100.

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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #17 on: 12/21/2018 11:14 pm »
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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #18 on: 12/21/2018 11:14 pm »
Launch at 2351UTC

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Re: Hongyun - CZ-11 - JSLC - December 21, 2018 (~23:50 UTC)
« Reply #19 on: 12/21/2018 11:15 pm »
SFF is showing a launch image and a launch time of 23:54 UTC. Not sure if this is a file photo. There's no other text indicating that the launch has happened.

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-11-rocket-launch-hongyun1-satellite?instance_id=2174
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