Author Topic: Soyuz-2.1b - Lotos-S1#7 (Kosmos 2570) - Plesetsk - Oct 27, 2023 (06:04 UTC)  (Read 16188 times)

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A launch is schedule for Plesetsk between October 27 and November 15 using a Soyuz-2 type launch vehicle...

https://twitter.com/nicolas_pillet/status/1714933890081542574
« Last Edit: 10/27/2023 04:48 pm by Galactic Penguin SST »

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Impact zones also announced for the Komi Republic:

https://komiinform.ru/news/256965

According to this announcement, launch is set for October 27 with back-up opportunities on October 28, November 2, 3, 8, 9, 14, 15.

These impact zones are for launches into 67° inclination orbits. The most likely payload is another Lotos-S ELINT satellite (14F145 N°808). Another possibility is the second Neitron (14F01-2), if that is still planned to be launched.


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For Neitron, the impact zone was in the Yamalo-Nenetsk region.
For Lotos it was the Komi republic.

So a Lotos-satellite is a better option.
« Last Edit: 10/20/2023 01:35 pm by Alter Sachse »
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For Neitron, the impact zone was in the Yamalo-Nenetsk region.
For Lotos it was the Komi republic.

So a Lotos-satellite is a better option.

Yamalo-Nenetsk was also announced for the upcoming launch. See the first post in this thread: the impact zones given in the tweet are in the Yamalo-Nenetsk region, although it is not mentioned by name. Actually, it's not possible to distinguish between Neitron and Lotos based on the impact zones. For launches into 67° orbits, the Komi Republic is the impact zone for the first stage and Yamalo-Nenetsk for the second stage.

What does point to a Lotos launch are the three back-to-back launch windows separated by several days. Something similar was seen for the latest Lotos launch (Kosmos-2565) in late November last year (two back-to-back launch windows separated by several days). These windows are likely tied to the orbits of the operational Lotos satellites. There are now three of them (Kosmos-2549, 2554 and 2565), which orbit the Earth in three separate planes spaced about 120° apart.

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Probable NOTAM for closing of air routes for this - the general direction of the closure locations and the dates match with the reports above. Daily window is 04:00 - 08:00 UTC.


Q2846/23 NOTAMN
Q) ULLL/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/055/540/6509N05352E208
A) ULLL B) 2310270400 C) 2311030800
D) OCT 27 28 NOV 02 03 0400-0800
E) ATS RTE SEGMENTS CLSD:
M131 NAKIR-ROGIS FL175-FL540,
N746 ATGOR-SUBEP FL265-FL540,
P35  LESHUKONSKOYE VORDME(LKN)-ABOKI FL055-FL540,
T754 BILMI-GIGES FL055-FL540,
T761 AMEDO-ROGIS FL275-FL540,
T761 SUBEP-BILMI FL275-FL540,
T765 LIDLA-NIKDI FL055-FL540,
T793 BILMI-ATGOR FL055-FL540,
T821 BILMI-NAREK FL245-FL540,
W152 BILMI-PERAG FL055-FL325.
F) FL055  G) FL540


Q2874/23 NOTAMN
Q) ULLL/QRTCA/IV/BO/W/000/050/6511N05008E110
A) ULLL B) 2310270400 C) 2311030800
D) OCT 27 28 NOV 02 03 0400-0800
E) AIRSPACE CLSD AS FLW:
1. AREA: 645700N0474000E-643300N0480000E-641600N0462600E-
         643700N0461000E-645700N0474000E
2. AREA: 660100N0540500E-653700N0540500E-652300N0525000E-
         654900N0522700E-660100N0540500E.
F) SFC  G) 1500M AMSL
« Last Edit: 10/23/2023 01:01 pm by Galactic Penguin SST »
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If this is indeed another Lotos-S satellite, one thing to look out for is whether it carries a subsatellite like its predecessor Kosmos-2565 (which released Kosmos-2566 days several days after launch). The first clue that Kosmos-2565 carried a passenger came in the Ministry of Defense's launch announcement, which talked about satellites (plural) having been placed into orbit by the Soyuz-2 rocket. The subsatellite was presumably installed on an adapter that can be seen on top of a Lotos-S model displayed at a military exhibition last summer.

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Any launch news?
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Any launch news?

I couldn't find any.
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Liftoff confirmed by their MoD. No launch time given so far but confirms that a Soyuz-2.1b was used.
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The launch announcement mentions satellites (plural) launched by the Soyuz rocket. So it looks like another Lotos with a subsatellite. That should be released from Lotos in the coming days.

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Liftoff confirmed by their MoD. No launch time given so far but confirms that a Soyuz-2.1b was used.

Translation.

"The Aerospace Forces launched the Soyuz-2.1b launch vehicle from the Plesetsk cosmodrome

On October 27, 2023, a combat crew of the Space Forces of the Aerospace Forces launched a Soyuz-2.1b medium-class launch vehicle with spacecraft from the Plesetsk cosmodrome (Arkhangelsk Region) in the interests of the Russian Ministry of Defense."
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DeepL does not translate it clearly:
spacecraft/spacecrafts.
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2023-165A/58148 in 239 x 900 km x 67.14°
2023-165B/58149 in 239 x 879 km x 67.14°

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DeepL does not translate it clearly:
spacecraft/spacecrafts.
 :-\

It's plural in Russian. Same as in the announcement of the launch of Kosmos-2565 last year. We will almost certainly see the release of a subsatellite after Lotos circularizes its orbit. 

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The Russian Ministry of Defense organized an excursion for students of three Suvorov military schools to the northernmost cosmodrome...

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12483081@egNews

So, I suppose that this is the Soyuz-2.1b that was launched today.

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The Russian Ministry of Defense organized an excursion for students of three Suvorov military schools to the northernmost cosmodrome...

https://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12483081@egNews

So, I suppose that this is the Soyuz-2.1b that was launched today.

The square base, red-white lightning towers would show this to be launching from Site 43/3.
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"My estimate of the launch time, based on Space Force tracking, is 0605 UTC Oct  27."

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1717925911742292333

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