Author Topic: The Russian Nauka/Multipurpose Laboratory Module (MLM) General Thread  (Read 718128 times)

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #360 on: 08/21/2013 03:16 pm »
Remember, MLM was originally scheduled to launch in 2006!

You know, it's a good job that ISS isn't being retired in 2015 as originally planned, otherwise the current situation would warrant serious discussion as to whether it would even be worth launching MLM at all.

Word within ESA is that this happened because Khrunichev has 'very serious organizational issues'.

Well, at least MLM is out of there now, and in the relative safety of RSC-E and their (hopefully safe) Soyuz/Progress construction environment. And it's good that testing picked this new fault up - shows it's rigorous, as it needs to be.

Personally I fear the worst for the Dutch-built piece of hardware that is set to go up with MLM: ERA.

I believe you said a while back that the Dutch government will not pay for ERA storage as a result of any more delays, meaning the Russian government will need to cover storage costs as a result of this new delay? I just hope ERA gets stored properly, and not left on the floor of some dusty, leaking warehouse in order to save money.
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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #361 on: 08/22/2013 08:33 pm »
I believe you said a while back that the Dutch government will not pay for ERA storage as a result of any more delays, meaning the Russian government will need to cover storage costs as a result of this new delay? I just hope ERA gets stored properly, and not left on the floor of some dusty, leaking warehouse in order to save money.

As a matter of fact that scenario already played out in 2007, shortly after ERA arrived in Russia. Clearing ERA, and it's associated systems, with Russian customs took a while. In the time it took to do so the crates, in which ERA was stored, were stowed in a very dusty and leaking warehouse of the Russian customs service. Same happened to MPTE the previous year, with the MPTE systems nearly frozen when the customs warehouse turned out to be unheated. Fortunately the primary contractor, Dutch Space, had decided, last minute, to stow the critical MPTE computer systems in an extra isolated transport container. Russian customs also managed to nearly completely destroy one of the MPTE containers upon off-loading from the truck. Fortunately, the contents survived more-or-less intact.
ESA and Dutch Space learned a valuable lesson there. When ERA went to Russia the next year, all components went into extra isolated, extra reinforced transport containers with additional shock absorbers installed. Roads in Russia ain't all that great either.
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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #362 on: 08/23/2013 10:32 am »
As per RSC Energia president Vitaliy Lopota, MLM launch is planned in April 2014, UM launch - in December 2014 and NEM-1 launch - at the end of 2017.
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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #363 on: 08/25/2013 05:38 pm »
Remember the contract for the Science and Energy modules (NEM) going to Energia, in stead of Khrunichev? Word within ESA is that this happened because Khrunichev has 'very serious organizational issues'.

If I'm not mistaken, RSC Energia is also the prime contractor for MLM.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #364 on: 08/26/2013 07:17 am »
Remember the contract for the Science and Energy modules (NEM) going to Energia, in stead of Khrunichev? Word within ESA is that this happened because Khrunichev has 'very serious organizational issues'.

If I'm not mistaken, RSC Energia is also the prime contractor for MLM.

As I understand it RSC Energia is prime contractor for final integration and launch readiness. The actual MLM module (think pressure hull and associated systems) comes from Khrunichev and is based on a legacy design, much like Zarya and four of the former MIR modules.
The NEM modules are now contracted to RSC Energia and will be of an entirely new design.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #365 on: 08/26/2013 07:21 am »
As per RSC Energia president Vitaliy Lopota, MLM launch is planned in April 2014, UM launch - in December 2014 and NEM-1 launch - at the end of 2017.

He's rather late with that news. The MLM delay to april 2014 was known many weeks ago. Did he mention anything about a delay to september 2014, per the news on the NK forum?
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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #366 on: 08/26/2013 09:50 am »
Did he mention anything about a delay to september 2014, per the news on the NK forum?

No.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #367 on: 08/26/2013 12:49 pm »
Did he mention anything about a delay to september 2014, per the news on the NK forum?

No.

Hmmm. Perhaps later then.

Update: got word of one ERA contractor that they are receiving indications from Russia for "an extended delay beyond april 2014". That seems to confirm (more-or-less) the latest delay to september 2014, per the NK forum.
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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #368 on: 08/26/2013 06:16 pm »
Did he mention anything about a delay to september 2014, per the news on the NK forum?

No.

Hmmm. Perhaps later then.


Perhaps he is waiting for next Proton failure, so that he can conveniently point finger at Khrunichev and say that because of them MLM has to be delayed.  ;)

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #369 on: 08/26/2013 06:24 pm »
Energia requires about 18 months to outfit and test large modules they receive from Khrunichev. Trying to shorten that time period is like hoping that nine women will have one baby in one month.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #370 on: 08/27/2013 07:36 am »
Energia requires about 18 months to outfit and test large modules they receive from Khrunichev. Trying to shorten that time period is like hoping that nine women will have one baby in one month.


Correct. And as things are standing today it looks like they will go well over that 18 month period.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #371 on: 08/31/2013 08:53 am »
The launch is planned on April 25 2014.

http://www.rg.ru/2013/08/30/modul-anons.html (On Russian)

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #372 on: 08/31/2013 12:23 pm »
The launch is planned on April 25 2014.

http://www.rg.ru/2013/08/30/modul-anons.html (On Russian)

Yes, and that is as reported by ITAR-TASS, the state news agency. I've learned, over the past five years not to rely on 'official' Russian news with regards to the MLM launch date. If we had, MLM would have been in orbit two years ago. Clearly, MLM is still on the ground.
All those recent official confirmations about the April 2014 launchdate only serve to confirm what was reported on the NK forum (and here) a few months ago. Right now, there is a report on NK that launch is delayed to september 2014. With every 'rumored' delay having coming true in the last five years, I'll take word on NK as gospel right now.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #373 on: 09/05/2013 12:42 pm »
ESA has reported in August, thru issue 155 of their ESA bulletin, that delivery of MLM to Baikonur was (then) set for December 2013, requiring a new launchdate (presumably the april 2014 date that we've been seeing lately). According to ESA Bulletin this will have an impact on the spacewalks and operations, for ERA, to be carried out by ESA astronauts Alexander Gerst (expedition 37) and Samantha Christoforetti (expedition 39) during their upcoming missions.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #374 on: 09/07/2013 10:58 pm »
As per Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, MLM launch is planned at the end of September 2014.

At least it's finally within sight. For me, the year-long count down finally just begun. I'm actually excited about the "delay" because it's realistic and honest. Finally, it's seriously going to launch.

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #375 on: 09/07/2013 11:37 pm »
If MLM is actually delivered to Baikonur by December 31 2013, then the chances for launch in 2014 are good.


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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #376 on: 09/08/2013 11:05 am »
Rotating CAD view of the MLM module and ERA

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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #377 on: 10/14/2013 05:11 pm »
Courtesy of the NK forum, a couple of fuzzy views of the MLM airlock module docking system.
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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #378 on: 10/14/2013 05:13 pm »
Courtesy of the NK forum, a view of the interior node section:


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Re: Russian Multipurpose Laboratory Module Update
« Reply #379 on: 10/14/2013 05:57 pm »
Courtesy of the NK forum, a view of the interior node section:

I think I see how they've solved the issue of needing two different hatches (a standard drogue and a hybrid drogue) - they have simply combined the two hatches together.

The hybrid hatch (large diameter) simply has the standard drogue hatch (smaller diameter) incorporated within it, so you can open and close the standard hatch when needed, and then once the standard drogue adapter is disposed of via Progress and the hybrid port opens up, the hybrid hatch (with standard drogue hatch "within" it) can be opened as normal.
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