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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #160 on: 05/20/2013 04:28 am »
UM simulator is installed in ISS RS Mockup facility

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #161 on: 05/22/2013 03:43 pm »
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Доработка агрегата 17Т725 для обеспечения транспортирования КГЧ с СЗБ 81КС-УМ

http://www.samspace.ru/zakupki/plany_zakupok/
http://www.samspace.ru/upload/iblock/87b/План%20закупки%20ГНПРКЦ%20ЦСКБ-Прогресс.xlsx

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #162 on: 06/19/2013 10:42 am »

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #163 on: 06/19/2013 11:01 am »
http://www.energia.ru/ru/news/news-2013/news_06-19.html

Thanks Anik. That looks like a decent amount of progress. The UM is larger than I thought it would be.

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #164 on: 07/12/2013 01:11 pm »

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #165 on: 07/12/2013 08:21 pm »

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #166 on: 07/12/2013 08:48 pm »
We have a name: Причал?
Yes. Words Причал and Пирс is synonymous in the Russian language  ;)

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #167 on: 07/13/2013 08:38 am »
We have a name: Причал?
Yes. Words Причал and Пирс is synonymous in the Russian language  ;)

"Berth" versus "Pier" ?

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #168 on: 07/13/2013 02:07 pm »
"Berth" versus "Pier" ?
berth [bəːθ] n (bed, in caravan) ко́йка* (:on ship) каю́та; (:on train) по́лка* (mooring) прича́л
Пирс (от англ. piers, множественное число от pier столб, мол, пристань, причал)

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #169 on: 10/14/2013 05:05 pm »
It looks like the underwater mockup of the Node has been built:

http://www.energia.ru/en/news/news-2013/news_10-11.html


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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #170 on: 10/16/2013 06:11 pm »
One issue that has not been discussed here much is the Progress PAO that will bring the Node to ISS. Because of the Node's heavy lateral docking ports, the current Progress thruster arrangement is insufficient to control the stack during docking operations - so, at the very least, the mid section thrusters will have to be moved.

I have not seen any documentation on this modification. Nor do I know if the modification to the thrusters would become standard for future Progress.

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #171 on: 10/16/2013 06:23 pm »
One issue that has not been discussed here much is the Progress PAO that will bring the Node to ISS. Because of the Node's heavy lateral docking ports, the current Progress thruster arrangement is insufficient to control the stack during docking operations - so, at the very least, the mid section thrusters will have to be moved.

I have not seen any documentation on this modification. Nor do I know if the modification to the thrusters would become standard for future Progress.

Is this just based on your own thinking or do you have a source for this assertion?

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #172 on: 10/16/2013 06:28 pm »
One issue that has not been discussed here much is the Progress PAO that will bring the Node to ISS. Because of the Node's heavy lateral docking ports, the current Progress thruster arrangement is insufficient to control the stack during docking operations - so, at the very least, the mid section thrusters will have to be moved.

I have not seen any documentation on this modification. Nor do I know if the modification to the thrusters would become standard for future Progress.
I'm having some real doubts this design is for use with the ISS.
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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #173 on: 10/20/2013 09:53 am »
One issue that has not been discussed here much is the Progress PAO that will bring the Node to ISS. Because of the Node's heavy lateral docking ports, the current Progress thruster arrangement is insufficient to control the stack during docking operations - so, at the very least, the mid section thrusters will have to be moved.

I have not seen any documentation on this modification. Nor do I know if the modification to the thrusters would become standard for future Progress.

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12244/message898397/#message898397
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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #174 on: 10/20/2013 10:06 am »

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #175 on: 10/20/2013 02:42 pm »
One issue that has not been discussed here much is the Progress PAO that will bring the Node to ISS. Because of the Node's heavy lateral docking ports, the current Progress thruster arrangement is insufficient to control the stack during docking operations - so, at the very least, the mid section thrusters will have to be moved.

I have not seen any documentation on this modification. Nor do I know if the modification to the thrusters would become standard for future Progress.

http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12244/message898397/#message898397


According to this diagram, the mid section thrusters extend out to 1.57 meters from the center line, compared to 1.22 meters for Progress.

If you look closely on the image above, you can see mid section thrusters on a stand-off.
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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #176 on: 10/20/2013 04:36 pm »
According to this diagram, the mid section thrusters extend out to 1.57 meters from the center line, compared to 1.22 meters for Progress.

If you look closely on the image above, you can see mid section thrusters on a stand-off.
Yes. 350mm

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #177 on: 10/21/2013 12:11 am »
I don't want to disrupt the thread, but once this new thruster configuration is done. Couldn't this be used for a new Progress configuration that can take advantage of the Soyuz-2.1B performance?

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #178 on: 10/21/2013 04:38 am »
I don't want to disrupt the thread, but once this new thruster configuration is done. Couldn't this be used for a new Progress configuration that can take advantage of the Soyuz-2.1B performance?
Yes. Module UM+800 kg pressurized cargo

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Re: Node Module - Russian segment
« Reply #179 on: 10/21/2013 07:26 pm »
http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/messages/forum10/topic12244/message1086827/#message1086827
PAO mockup and UM mockup for static ground test
this looks like Soyuz tooling was used?
How does the size compare with Soyuz?
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