Its has been 22 years since BO was founded and we are still waiting for an Orbital flight. I don't think they will be on Mars within the next 200.
Thank you for the video.On a related note, when you start a new topic, could you stop adding ... to the end of it? It doesn't add much.
Quote from: Silmfeanor on 10/28/2022 07:11 pmThank you for the video.On a related note, when you start a new topic, could you stop adding ... to the end of it? It doesn't add much.Tywin does it on almost every post of his/her/their post, it's probably a personal style by now so the prognosis on your request is problematic. Is it a personal triggering point or does it translate into something bad in Dutch? I always though the .... was used in an attempt to draw others into the conversation. Kind of a "What say YOU!?" I didn't notice until now that Tywin is a chronic "... " user. Laugh.
I think that Blue is much more focused on a lunar economy, so a crewed Mars mission probably won't happen for a while.
Quote from: Hamish.Student on 10/28/2022 05:22 amIts has been 22 years since BO was founded and we are still waiting for an Orbital flight. I don't think they will be on Mars within the next 200.Although Blue Origin was founded in 2000, it waited until 2014 to move into the orbital spaceflight technology development business. Last February, NASA awarded Blue Origin a contract to launch a Mars mission aboard a New Glenn rocket, which means that the New Glenn will be optimized for both earth-orbiting missions and planetary missions after it conducts its first flight.Link:https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/09/nasa-will-launch-a-mars-mission-on-blue-origins-new-glenn/
(although it lacks the raw power for direct GEO...probably, no one's going to put a cubesat in GEO regardless).
I think they are focused more on building "probably the most beautiful rocket factories in the world"
I think they are focused more on building "probably the most beautiful rocket factories in the world" and less on anything orbital. Getting to orbit would be a good start, never mind the moon. As for Mars, I don't think they will ever have a Mars plan.
There is going to be a collective nervous breakdown of Blue haters once they launch into orbit next summer.
Don’t be so childish. It’s not hating BO but rather being so disappointed with them. Expected so much more from them but I’m still waiting for that first orbital attempt to happen and will be happy to see them finally get there. But it’s 10 years later than I expected. Get to orbit, then get better at it, then think about the moon. Mars is a long long way off.Quote from: Steve G on 05/16/2023 12:51 pmThere is going to be a collective nervous breakdown of Blue haters once they launch into orbit next summer.
New Shepard has a disappointing launch cadence for a fully reusable suborbital vehicle that has had many years to mature.
I'm being childish? Seriously? Kindly review the previous infantile snippets about Blue. Blue must launch next August for Mars EscaPADE, and neither NASA nor Blue would commit to this if they didn't have confidence that New Glenn could deliver. They will ramp up launches in 2025 and by 2026 all things Blue will converge. But, not Mars.
Quote from: Robotbeat on 05/16/2023 01:33 pmNew Shepard has a disappointing launch cadence for a fully reusable suborbital vehicle that has had many years to mature.Pandemic threw a big wrench in those plans. Six strangers in a small confined space, anyone?
Quote from: whitelancer64 on 05/16/2023 03:02 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 05/16/2023 01:33 pmNew Shepard has a disappointing launch cadence for a fully reusable suborbital vehicle that has had many years to mature.Pandemic threw a big wrench in those plans. Six strangers in a small confined space, anyone?Rumor has it that BO is working on a revolutionary new method to ascertain whether a person may have the Covid infection. But it's secret, they'll announce it when they're ready.Seriously, are you saying NS is barely flying because of COVID? People willing to sit on top of a rocket, but worried about that?Even the city bus system is working you know.
Quote from: meekGee on 05/16/2023 03:24 pmQuote from: whitelancer64 on 05/16/2023 03:02 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 05/16/2023 01:33 pmNew Shepard has a disappointing launch cadence for a fully reusable suborbital vehicle that has had many years to mature.Pandemic threw a big wrench in those plans. Six strangers in a small confined space, anyone?Rumor has it that BO is working on a revolutionary new method to ascertain whether a person may have the Covid infection. But it's secret, they'll announce it when they're ready.Seriously, are you saying NS is barely flying because of COVID? People willing to sit on top of a rocket, but worried about that?Even the city bus system is working you know.Good point, Covid is pretty much gone at this point, with only a couple thousand cases everyday. That's not the reason why NS is flying. The reason why NS is barely flying is because it usually takes awhile to find passengers, or ones who are willing to buy. Later on, when Space Tourism is the norm, spacecrafts like NS will be practically flying every day.
Quote from: Steve G on 05/16/2023 01:37 pmI'm being childish? Seriously? Kindly review the previous infantile snippets about Blue. Blue must launch next August for Mars EscaPADE, and neither NASA nor Blue would commit to this if they didn't have confidence that New Glenn could deliver. They will ramp up launches in 2025 and by 2026 all things Blue will converge. But, not Mars.NASA won't comment. They regularly carry water for every launch company they contract with.
Quote from: meekGee on 05/16/2023 03:24 pmQuote from: whitelancer64 on 05/16/2023 03:02 pmQuote from: Robotbeat on 05/16/2023 01:33 pmNew Shepard has a disappointing launch cadence for a fully reusable suborbital vehicle that has had many years to mature.Pandemic threw a big wrench in those plans. Six strangers in a small confined space, anyone?Rumor has it that BO is working on a revolutionary new method to ascertain whether a person may have the Covid infection. But it's secret, they'll announce it when they're ready.Seriously, are you saying NS is barely flying because of COVID? People willing to sit on top of a rocket, but worried about that?Even the city bus system is working you know.What do you mean "barely flying"? The NS-23 accident really threw things off, but before that, New Shepard RSS First Step/PM 4 was flying every two months on average beforehand, and flew 8 times in a year, which was a huge improvement over RSS H.G. Wells/PM 3 which took nearly 5 years.Also, you're being anti-chronological here. The pandemic did massively slow things down in 2020 for Blue Origin into 2021. It also affected other aerospace firms, Sierra Space, Astrobotics, and more suffered 6-12 month setbacks. Far more in some cases.
What do you mean "barely flying"? The NS-23 accident really threw things off, but before that, New Shepard RSS First Step/PM 4 was flying every two months on average beforehand, and flew 8 times in a year, which was a huge improvement over RSS H.G. Wells/PM 3 which took nearly 5 years.Also, you're being anti-chronological here. The pandemic did massively slow things down in 2020 for Blue Origin into 2021. It also affected other aerospace firms, Sierra Space, Astrobotics, and more suffered 6-12 month setbacks. Far more in some cases.
Quote from: Starshipdown on 05/16/2023 06:56 pmWhat do you mean "barely flying"? The NS-23 accident really threw things off, but before that, New Shepard RSS First Step/PM 4 was flying every two months on average beforehand, and flew 8 times in a year, which was a huge improvement over RSS H.G. Wells/PM 3 which took nearly 5 years.Also, you're being anti-chronological here. The pandemic did massively slow things down in 2020 for Blue Origin into 2021. It also affected other aerospace firms, Sierra Space, Astrobotics, and more suffered 6-12 month setbacks. Far more in some cases.An average of six launches a year isn't terrible, but their unusually long time in getting back to launching after the NS-23 failure (especially if said failure was caused by an improperly tested change in film cooling -- at the very least, that should have significantly expedited fault tree investigation) points to their success-oriented mindset and makes one wonder what happens if the first New Glenn launch isn't a complete success.