Author Topic: Should Blue bring a small asteroid to the Cislunar zone in this decade?  (Read 12103 times)

Offline Tywin

Something similar to NASA's ARM mission...

As a reminder, Blue is developing a space tug...
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Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Offline Tywin

Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Blue has about 4000 employees, by the end of this decade maybe double that number, seems to me an interesting mission for their space tug....
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Offline Tywin

Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Blue will deliver the BE-4 this year, they already have the BE-3 and BE-3U, almost the BE-7...the New Shepard works....

The New Glenn will fly between this year and next year....

Orbital Reef is doing well and has great partners....

The space tug is a project that with this mission can achieve great things...
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Offline Lemurion

Why? This is a significant mission, so what does Blue get out of it? Why would Blue want to take this mission on and how does it fit into what the company is already involved in?

Offline Hamish.Student

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Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Blue will deliver the BE-4 this year
Maybe
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they already have the BE-3 and BE-3U, almost the BE-7
Hopefully that works out better than BE-4...
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...the New Shepard works....
Ill give you this one, NS does work.

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The New Glenn will fly between this year and next year....
You assume, many would disagree

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Orbital Reef is doing well and has great partners....
It was a spiffy announcement for sure

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The space tug is a project that with this mission can achieve great things...
If they can complete it 
 
Also, rather than having several comments responding to the same person, use the edit button maybe? Makes things cleaner and easier to follow.

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Sure. Wake me when BO gets to orbit.

Offline Tywin

Why? This is a significant mission, so what does Blue get out of it? Why would Blue want to take this mission on and how does it fit into what the company is already involved in?

Blue wants to bring heavy industry into space, and to do that, it needs to start with space mining....

This mission would be a great start...and even more so now that there is or will be a Gateway station....
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Offline Tywin

Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Blue will deliver the BE-4 this year
Maybe
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they already have the BE-3 and BE-3U, almost the BE-7
Hopefully that works out better than BE-4...
Quote
...the New Shepard works....
Ill give you this one, NS does work.

Quote
The New Glenn will fly between this year and next year....
You assume, many would disagree

Quote
Orbital Reef is doing well and has great partners....
It was a spiffy announcement for sure

Quote
The space tug is a project that with this mission can achieve great things...
If they can complete it 
 
Also, rather than having several comments responding to the same person, use the edit button maybe? Makes things cleaner and easier to follow.

Agree with almost everything...The space Tug is a minor project for Blue...should be easy for them...
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Offline Tywin

Sure. Wake me when BO gets to orbit.

your nap will be short hehehehe
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Why blue?

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Need more definitive questions than ones where the premise is nebulous.

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Why blue?

Because is in the vision the Jeff Bezos, and he has the resources for doid...
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 Did Reddit send this guy to flood the site with all these nonsense posts?
Those who danced were thought to be quite insane by those who couldn't hear the music.

Offline Tywin

Need more definitive questions than ones where the premise is nebulous.

I believe the ARM mission is gonna happen in the next two decades, why not Blue as the major contractor and leader...
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Did Reddit send this guy to flood the site with all these nonsense posts?

I don't participate in Reddit, however, I have been in NSF for many years...
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Need more definitive questions than ones where the premise is nebulous.

I believe the ARM mission is gonna happen in the next two decades, why not Blue as the major contractor and leader...

NASA isn’t going to fund it

Offline Tywin

Need more definitive questions than ones where the premise is nebulous.

I believe the ARM mission is gonna happen in the next two decades, why not Blue as the major contractor and leader...

NASA isn’t going to fund it

Jeff Bezos has the money to fund it...
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Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Blue will deliver the BE-4 this year
Maybe
Quote
they already have the BE-3 and BE-3U, almost the BE-7
Hopefully that works out better than BE-4...
Quote
...the New Shepard works....
Ill give you this one, NS does work.

Quote
The New Glenn will fly between this year and next year....
You assume, many would disagree

Quote
Orbital Reef is doing well and has great partners....
It was a spiffy announcement for sure

Quote
The space tug is a project that with this mission can achieve great things...
If they can complete it 
 
Also, rather than having several comments responding to the same person, use the edit button maybe? Makes things cleaner and easier to follow.
From your introduction, its obvious that BO will succeed where SX is lagging, and bogged down in regulation. BO has already achieved the recovery of a Saturn 5 engine, a feat SX that has not appeared even on Elon's timeline. And the same with space tugs, SX is totally lacking in vision in this direction.
However BO will steal a march on the erstwhile pretender SpaceX. There are many reefs on earth, with loads of space around them, (I'm sure BO lawyers will confirm this definition of orbital reefs), investigation of this space may well produce rocks that could be presented as asteroid fragments. This would be a mission largely based on BO's amazing achievements to date. 
EDIT: I wonder, did BO carry out that mission, or a contractor. I assumed BO did it, and thus assessed them a high TRL.
« Last Edit: 01/02/2022 11:34 pm by DistantTemple »
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Sure. What's one more thing on their plate that they can't deliver on?

Blue will deliver the BE-4 this year,
The ULA version of it, maybe.
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they already have the BE-3
Ok..
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and BE-3U,
Do they now?
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almost the BE-7...
Haha like they almost have a lot of things..
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the New Shepard works....
So does my car
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The New Glenn will fly between this year and next year....
You're drifting into pure conjecture here, and wishful conjecture at that
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Orbital Reef is doing well and has great partners....
It's just an announcement and a tiny bit of money..  "doing well"? It's not doing anything...
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The space tug is a project that with this mission can achieve great things...
Like someone said upthread - let's see NG/Jarvis fly first.  Otherwise, it's just wishful thinking.

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while a neat idea, blue won't do ANYTHING they aren't getting paid to do. Profit is a serious operating goal of Bezos

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Did Reddit send this guy to flood the site with all these nonsense posts?

“Mr. Feder!
You ask a lotta questions!”

(I dare you to place that reference!)

How many threads have you started in the last few days, Tywin?
I think you have used up your quota.
For 2022
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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“Mr. Feder!
You ask a lotta questions!”

(I dare you to place that reference!)

Jane Curtain?
I'm wrong?
Oh, that's very different.... Nevermind.

Obligatory on topic:

Should B.O. grab an asteroid?  It would be a great way to demonstrate Jeff's ideas of moving manufacturing in space.
Can B.O. grab an asteroid?  How about orbiting something first.
Will they?  It all depends on who pays them.

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https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/948355

As to the thread title, I'm sure Blue would be happy to do that if NASA footed the bill.
« Last Edit: 01/04/2022 03:31 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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The idea of moving a asteroid to Earth or Lunar orbit has been suggested multiple times but the advantages are extremely unconvincing.

If you want to do ISRU it's much better to do it on the Moon's surface.

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The idea of moving a asteroid to Earth or Lunar orbit has been suggested multiple times but the advantages are extremely unconvincing.

If you want to do ISRU it's much better to do it on the Moon's surface.

From my point of view, moving a decent-sized asteroid to Earth orbit would be one of the most significant advances in human history, comparable in some aspects to Sputnik or Apollo 11. Double points if it contained significant quantities of nitrogen.

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The idea of moving a asteroid to Earth or Lunar orbit has been suggested multiple times but the advantages are extremely unconvincing.

If you want to do ISRU it's much better to do it on the Moon's surface.

From my point of view, moving a decent-sized asteroid to Earth orbit would be one of the most significant advances in human history, comparable in some aspects to Sputnik or Apollo 11. Double points if it contained significant quantities of nitrogen.

I agree. People don't understand how big and heavy asteroids are. Moving an entire mountain (tiny asteroid) is no small feat.

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