Tug has been under development at @blueorigin for some time. Primary purpose is to retrieve cargo/prop vessels, for example, that have been deposited into orbit & ferry them to @OrbitalReef, sr VP adv dev program Brent Sherwood tells @AviationWeek #iac2021The reason for @blueorigin space tug for @OrbitalReef becomes clearer: salvaging usable equipment from @Space_Station after it is decommissioned. #IAC2021
Wasn't Axiom planning on directly docking with the ISS for the first part of its life, which would make salvaging usable components trivial? In particular, I feel like I've seen pictures of Canadarm2 walking over to Axiom before the two separate. Is there some sort of agreement on which commercial provider would get which USOS hardware?
Is this also implying a commitment to propellant depots in some form? The tug needs propellant at the very least.
Some details have emerged about Blue Origin’s “Blue Ring” project"There is a critical need for rideshare and hosting solutions for small satellites."ERIC BERGER - 1/6/2023, 7:43 PMOn Wednesday, the Washington-based space company Blue Origin posted a job opening for a position titled "Blue Ring Senior Program Manager." However, the posting to the company's Workday "Careers" page was taken down less than 24 hours later[…]The Blue Ring project combines two basic features: an EELV Secondary Payload Adapter, or ESPA ring, and a space tug.
Such "orbital transfer vehicle" services are increasingly common.
Should be merged with Blue Origin Space Tug thread.
I'm concerned that this is yet another disctraction. Blue seems to flit between and join literally every space project.They only have so much wo(man) power. People power? Orbital rockets, LEO space stations, lunar landers, orbital tugs, amazon satellites, plus random other stuff I'm missing. All of this at the same time? Adding more stuff onto the pile means everything else slows down. There are only so many engineers out there to hire, so available human power is not infinite (or even adequate).
Could the Blue bid, the Ring space tug, de-orbit the ISS for NASA?
Quote from: Tywin on 03/09/2023 05:30 pmCould the Blue bid, the Ring space tug, de-orbit the ISS for NASA?I'm not aware of any usable specs being available for thier tug. Does anyone else know if there are any public?
Exclusive: Blue Origin to unveil beefy, reconfigurable, multi-mission , 5-yr platform called Blue Ring to fly, deploy, refuel, host, process data & provide other services for payloads in earth orbit, cislunar space & beyond . Can launch on @spacex, @ulalaunch, @blueorigin & other rockets.
Like everything else from Blue, it doesn’t exist for practical purposes until they show flight hardware.
Quote from: Comga on 03/10/2023 07:37 pmLike everything else from Blue, it doesn’t exist for practical purposes until they show flight hardware.Blue is perhaps an extreme example, but by now I feel that this is true for the entire Space industry. Sadly this is true even when there is an actual contract in place with specific dates and deliverables.
What’s new at Blue? Our vision to build a road to space now includes a new, multi-orbit spacecraft platform called Blue Ring. Check it out here:
OCT 16, 2023Blue Origin Unveils Multi-Mission, Multi-Orbit Space Mobility PlatformExpanding upon its mission to build a road to space for the benefit of Earth, Blue Origin has unveiled Blue Ring, a spacecraft platform focused on providing in-space logistics and delivery.Blue Ring serves commercial and government customers and can support a variety of missions in medium Earth orbit out to the cislunar region and beyond. The platform provides end-to-end services that span hosting, transportation, refueling, data relay, and logistics, including an “in-space” cloud computing capability. Blue Ring can host payloads of more than 3,000 kg and provides unprecedented delta-V capabilities and mission flexibility.“Blue Ring addresses two of the most difficult challenges in spaceflight today: growing space infrastructure and increasing mobility on-orbit,” said Paul Ebertz, Senior Vice President of Blue Origin’s In-Space Systems. “We're offering our customers the ability to easily access and maneuver through a variety of orbits cost-effectively while having access to critical data to ensure a successful mission,” Ebertz added.Blue Ring is part of a newly formed Blue Origin business unit called In-Space Systems.
Wouldn't it be nice if Dave limp, on his first day said:"New Glenn is the priority. Everything else is on the back burner, especially the truck. We launch a year from now. No excuses."
Quote from: seb21051 on 10/16/2023 08:35 pmWouldn't it be nice if Dave limp, on his first day said:"New Glenn is the priority. Everything else is on the back burner, especially the truck. We launch a year from now. No excuses."Nice try, but see Brooks' Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks%27s_lawBasically, adding resources to a late project makes it later.
Other question, is this the biggest space tug currently in the market?
Is it just me or does the bus look suspiciously like some constellation deployer that was repurposed?I mean, if you are really in the condo-sat business that doesn't seem ideal. Straight up rideshare OTV deployer though, that's fine.As a high power hosted platform though, it's an interesting competitor to Photon in the high end. Might be attractive to some SAR outfits due to power consumption.Combo setups would be interesting, top slot pointed nadir for a SAR, and a bunch of gymbaled EO telescopes in the ESPA slots for realtime targeted observations along with some lasercomm turrets.
If you guys really can't help but bash Blue Origin, there is a general discussion thread where you can do that all day. This thread actually has a specific topic.
Quote from: JEF_300 on 10/16/2023 07:24 pmIf you guys really can't help but bash Blue Origin, there is a general discussion thread where you can do that all day. This thread actually has a specific topic.Your gatekeeping.We have legitimate doubts about this project and how it affects the company. Thats very germaine to the thread.
Quote from: deadman1204 on 10/18/2023 02:23 pmQuote from: JEF_300 on 10/16/2023 07:24 pmIf you guys really can't help but bash Blue Origin, there is a general discussion thread where you can do that all day. This thread actually has a specific topic.Your gatekeeping.We have legitimate doubts about this project and how it affects the company. Thats very germaine to the thread.Regardless of the purported legitimacy, the effect on the company is about the company not the tug, ipso facto not relevant to this thread.
No company has the people/money to do every project. This just waters everything down. Blue has been cutting people, so adding another project means something else is losing alot of staff.
Specifications.Number of ports: 12Payload mass per port: 500 kgTop deck payload mass: 2500 kgDelta-V: 3 km/sRobotic arm: OptionalHosted payloads: YesDesign life: 3 to 5 yearsRefuelable: YesRefuel other spacecraft: YesPropellant: Top Secret!
Blue Ring, he said, has 12 docking ports, each able to accommodate payloads weighing up to 500 kilograms.
The “core mission” of Blue Ring is to deploy satellites in their desired orbits, but the spacecraft can also be used as a bus for hosted payloads. “We can serve as a very capable bus,” Hoffman said, with a design life of three to five years initially.
...Blue Ring is both refuelable and able to refuel other spacecraft...