Blue Origin's FCC application for Flight 13 was dismissed without prejudiceQuoteYou are advised that the Commission is unable to grant your application for the facilities requested. The application is dismissed because NTIA objects to authorize the STA request on behalf of Blue Origin Texas, LLC for Van Horn, TX during the period 1 December 2019 thru 1 June 2020, for the following reason(s):- Due to critical on-going law-enforcement operationsBlue Origin has filed a new request 2326-EX-ST-2019QuoteEXHIBIT #1: Information about FCC license request for Flight 1309 Dec 2019Blue Origin Texas, LLCRe: STA file # 2326-EX-ST-2019This license request is a modification of the dismissed STA file # 2169-EX-ST-2019, correspondence reference number 52157. The dismissal does not specify which of the two frequencies from 2169-EX-ST2019 conflict with the on-going law-enforcement operations. Therefore, on this application 2326-EX-ST2019 Blue Origin Texas requests any two of the five frequencies listed in this application (we do not need all five). These combinations are• 2202+/-2 and 2210+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2216+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2272+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2216+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHz• 2216+/-2.5 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2216+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHz• 2250+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHzWe respectfully ask that if there are any issues with the above request, can someone please contact me to discuss this application? Blue Origin Texas has flexibility beyond what is listed above, and we are more than happy to coordinate and alter this application to accommodate other spectrum users. We are resubmitting this application with guesses as to what frequencies to ask for, because we don’t have specific feedback on what was conflicting with our initial application in correspondence reference number 52157.Sincerely,Jeffrey BridgeNew Shepard Operations
You are advised that the Commission is unable to grant your application for the facilities requested. The application is dismissed because NTIA objects to authorize the STA request on behalf of Blue Origin Texas, LLC for Van Horn, TX during the period 1 December 2019 thru 1 June 2020, for the following reason(s):- Due to critical on-going law-enforcement operations
EXHIBIT #1: Information about FCC license request for Flight 1309 Dec 2019Blue Origin Texas, LLCRe: STA file # 2326-EX-ST-2019This license request is a modification of the dismissed STA file # 2169-EX-ST-2019, correspondence reference number 52157. The dismissal does not specify which of the two frequencies from 2169-EX-ST2019 conflict with the on-going law-enforcement operations. Therefore, on this application 2326-EX-ST2019 Blue Origin Texas requests any two of the five frequencies listed in this application (we do not need all five). These combinations are• 2202+/-2 and 2210+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2216+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2272+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2216+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHz• 2216+/-2.5 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2216+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHz• 2250+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHzWe respectfully ask that if there are any issues with the above request, can someone please contact me to discuss this application? Blue Origin Texas has flexibility beyond what is listed above, and we are more than happy to coordinate and alter this application to accommodate other spectrum users. We are resubmitting this application with guesses as to what frequencies to ask for, because we don’t have specific feedback on what was conflicting with our initial application in correspondence reference number 52157.Sincerely,Jeffrey BridgeNew Shepard Operations
NTIA is the Executive Branch agency that is principally responsible for advising the President on telecommunications and information policy issues. NTIA’s programs and policymaking focus largely on expanding broadband Internet access and adoption in America, expanding the use of spectrum by all users, and ensuring that the Internet remains an engine for continued innovation and economic growth.
Quote from: gongora on 12/10/2019 02:49 amBlue Origin's FCC application for Flight 13 was dismissed without prejudiceQuoteYou are advised that the Commission is unable to grant your application for the facilities requested. The application is dismissed because NTIA objects to authorize the STA request on behalf of Blue Origin Texas, LLC for Van Horn, TX during the period 1 December 2019 thru 1 June 2020, for the following reason(s):- Due to critical on-going law-enforcement operationsBlue Origin has filed a new request 2326-EX-ST-2019QuoteEXHIBIT #1: Information about FCC license request for Flight 1309 Dec 2019Blue Origin Texas, LLCRe: STA file # 2326-EX-ST-2019This license request is a modification of the dismissed STA file # 2169-EX-ST-2019, correspondence reference number 52157. The dismissal does not specify which of the two frequencies from 2169-EX-ST2019 conflict with the on-going law-enforcement operations. Therefore, on this application 2326-EX-ST2019 Blue Origin Texas requests any two of the five frequencies listed in this application (we do not need all five). These combinations are• 2202+/-2 and 2210+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2216+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2202+/-2 and 2272+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2216+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2210+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHz• 2216+/-2.5 and 2250+/-2.5 MHz• 2216+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHz• 2250+/-2.5 and 2272.5+/-2.5 MHzWe respectfully ask that if there are any issues with the above request, can someone please contact me to discuss this application? Blue Origin Texas has flexibility beyond what is listed above, and we are more than happy to coordinate and alter this application to accommodate other spectrum users. We are resubmitting this application with guesses as to what frequencies to ask for, because we don’t have specific feedback on what was conflicting with our initial application in correspondence reference number 52157.Sincerely,Jeffrey BridgeNew Shepard Operations This seems quite concerning for any future commercial operations at Van Horn.The Wikipedia entry for the NTIA doesn't mention law enforcement or border security.The NTIA site says QuoteNTIA is the Executive Branch agency that is principally responsible for advising the President on telecommunications and information policy issues. NTIA’s programs and policymaking focus largely on expanding broadband Internet access and adoption in America, expanding the use of spectrum by all users, and ensuring that the Internet remains an engine for continued innovation and economic growth.It's Spectrum Management office also makes little mention of law enforcement. Further comments may have to be taken to the Politics threads.
NS is completely autonomous whereas SS2 has no autonomy and needs the pilots to fly.I would expect SS2 pilots to be largely separated from passengers (as shown in VG video animations) to avoid the risk of passengers bumping into controls and causing a flight risk.So I’m not sure there’s such a big difference.
Quote"... fully operational reuseable launch vehicle...""... no further development of this vehicle...""... verification to fully understand the system....""... recycling system from NASA..." (note: Makes carbon monoxide among other products. Likely an issue on the ISS) two pieces of high-school artwork and kids' postcards to space...
"... fully operational reuseable launch vehicle...""... no further development of this vehicle...""... verification to fully understand the system....""... recycling system from NASA..." (note: Makes carbon monoxide among other products. Likely an issue on the ISS) two pieces of high-school artwork and kids' postcards to space...
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/11/2019 09:44 amNS is completely autonomous whereas SS2 has no autonomy and needs the pilots to fly.I would expect SS2 pilots to be largely separated from passengers (as shown in VG video animations) to avoid the risk of passengers bumping into controls and causing a flight risk.So I’m not sure there’s such a big difference.You may need someone to ensure passengers return to their seats before zero G ends.
You may need someone to ensure passengers return to their seats before zero G ends.
NTIA’s Office of Spectrum Management (OSM) is dedicated to protecting the vital federal government operations that use spectrum while also supporting the growth of commercial wireless broadband and technologies in America. Many federal agencies rely on the use of spectrum, a limited resource, to execute their core missions. There is also increasing demand for spectrum to meet the wireless broadband needs of consumers and businesses, paving the way for continued innovation and economic growth.
Wonder if its possible for NS to land with capsule attached, would need a few significant design changes. Big plus is no need to repack parachutes or refurbish retropulsion landing thrusters. Still have option to do a launch abort. Crew would leave capsule via mobile boarding ladder once booster is safe ie H has all been vented and tanks purged.In away it would be safer as they would have redundant landing systems, with parachutes as backups not primary.
Several promotional style NS videos just released by Blue (see updates thread).Hopefully a sign that passenger, as opposed to just payload, operations are not far away.
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/11/2019 09:41 pmSeveral promotional style NS videos just released by Blue (see updates thread).Hopefully a sign that passenger, as opposed to just payload, operations are not far away.No it’s notPromotional videos are not evidence of anything. After a dozen ASDS landings, SpaceX came up with the Octograbber, a machine to deal with landed boosters. For operations, Blue will need some machine to swiftly fetch the booster and put it back on the launch mount.At least they have to anchor it. It’s a big, light sail with a narrow base, waiting for a stiff breeze to tip it over. We can guess what they use but I don’t think we have seen any evidence of it. When your customers end their quarter million dollar ride in the Texas scrub, Blue will not want to leave them hanging there with the Texas sun shining through the “largest windows ever in a spacecraft”. But they haven’t even practiced chasing the capsule, never mind showing a vehicle that would achieve the passenger experience they go on about. Pickup trucks won’t do. In short, we haven’t seen any evidence of preparations for commercial operations.
No it’s notPromotional videos are not evidence of anything. After a dozen ASDS landings, SpaceX came up with the Octograbber, a machine to deal with landed boosters. For operations, Blue will need some machine to swiftly fetch the booster and put it back on the launch mount.At least they have to anchor it. It’s a big, light sail with a narrow base, waiting for a stiff breeze to tip it over. We can guess what they use but I don’t think we have seen any evidence of it. When your customers end their quarter million dollar ride in the Texas scrub, Blue will not want to leave them hanging there with the Texas sun shining through the “largest windows ever in a spacecraft”. But they haven’t even practiced chasing the capsule, never mind showing a vehicle that would achieve the passenger experience they go on about. Pickup trucks won’t do. In short, we haven’t seen any evidence of preparations for commercial operations.
Quote from: daedalus1 on 12/11/2019 10:16 amQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/11/2019 09:44 amNS is completely autonomous whereas SS2 has no autonomy and needs the pilots to fly.I would expect SS2 pilots to be largely separated from passengers (as shown in VG video animations) to avoid the risk of passengers bumping into controls and causing a flight risk.So I’m not sure there’s such a big difference.You may need someone to ensure passengers return to their seats before zero G ends.Gravity will reminding them to return to their seats.
Quote from: daedalus1 on 12/11/2019 10:16 amYou may need someone to ensure passengers return to their seats before zero G ends.But does that person have to be on board?
Quote from: Chandonn on 12/11/2019 06:30 pmQuote from: daedalus1 on 12/11/2019 10:16 amYou may need someone to ensure passengers return to their seats before zero G ends.But does that person have to be on board?I thought deceleration peaked at around 5g? You can easily kill people at that level. Even if your waivers are legally watertight it really isn’t good for product image. I’d want crew in the capsule.