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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #100 on: 12/14/2023 08:15 pm »
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #101 on: 12/14/2023 09:36 pm »
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #102 on: 01/08/2024 12:54 pm »
https://twitter.com/Dr_ThomasZ/status/1744262399949988212


I know he no longer works at NASA; but he was one of the most important people in NASA's probes; and I think this recent success, may help to start growing the future manisfest of New Glenn contracts with NASA in the future....

When the New Glenn manages to launch two-three times successfully, it seems to me that NASA may be very interested to start launching important space missions with them in the future...


Which future NASA mission to be launched in the next 5-10 years, do you think can be contracted with the New Glenn?
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #103 on: 03/01/2024 01:54 am »
Which future NASA mission to be launched in the next 5-10 years, do you think can be contracted with the New Glenn?

As far as I'm aware there are a few Explorer's program missions that don't have a LV assigned but these are small satellites that are usually rideshares or small sat launchers. JPSS-3 (2026) is another candidate that doesn't have a LV assigned. The next flagship mission would probably be Dragonfly but I'd think that'll be awarded soon and am not expecting New Glenn to win it. I could see them compete for DAVINCI though.

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #104 on: 03/01/2024 10:21 am »
Which future NASA mission to be launched in the next 5-10 years, do you think can be contracted with the New Glenn?
As far as I'm aware there are a few Explorer's program missions that don't have a LV assigned but these are small satellites that are usually rideshares or small sat launchers. JPSS-3 (2026) is another candidate that doesn't have a LV assigned. The next flagship mission would probably be Dragonfly but I'd think that'll be awarded soon and am not expecting New Glenn to win it. I could see them compete for DAVINCI though.
Yeahh DA Vinci, and Veritas they have a big opportunity...

Maybe for the future Uranus Orbiter too...

Other thing, Blue already have a agreement to launch Eutelsat satellites, and Oneweb belong to they now...

Maybe some Oneweb satellites can be launched in New Glenn...

[zubenelgenubi: I combined three immediately successive posts by Tywin into one.]
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #105 on: 10/09/2024 06:02 pm »
Can we expect to see new signatures-contracts of the manifest of Blue, after NG-1 launch?


For example AST Spacemobile, said they go to launch the GEN2 with new provider...
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #106 on: 10/17/2024 05:30 am »
Which future NASA mission to be launched in the next 5-10 years, do you think can be contracted with the New Glenn?
As far as I'm aware there are a few Explorer's program missions that don't have a LV assigned but these are small satellites that are usually rideshares or small sat launchers. JPSS-3 (2026) is another candidate that doesn't have a LV assigned. The next flagship mission would probably be Dragonfly but I'd think that'll be awarded soon and am not expecting New Glenn to win it. I could see them compete for DAVINCI though.
Yeahh DA Vinci, and Veritas they have a big opportunity...

Maybe for the future Uranus Orbiter too...

Other thing, Blue already have a agreement to launch Eutelsat satellites, and Oneweb belong to they now...

Maybe some Oneweb satellites can be launched in New Glenn...

[zubenelgenubi: I combined three immediately successive posts by Tywin into one.]

The INvestigation of Convective UpdraftS (INCUS) mission [three small radar satellites to study tropical storm formation from LEO], selected as the 3rd NASA Earth Ventures Mission (EVM-3). Planned to launch in 2027.

Discovery 15 and 16, VERITAS and DAVINCI, planned for launch in 2028 and 2029, already mentioned.

Any future Discovery and New Frontiers missions.  Eventually it will be certified for Flagship missions too.

Mars Sample Return, if that continues to get funded.

Uranus orbiter / probe also previously mentioned.

Any lunar landers / orbiters related to CLPS.

Artemis / Blue Moon cargo / crew lunar landers.
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #107 on: 10/19/2024 11:13 pm »
Do you have a source for the spacecraft cost being $55 million, other than that being the price cap for SIMPLEx missions?

It's in NASA budget request.
Launch costs wouldn’t be included in these mission allocations and budget requests and projections.
It doesn’t appear possible to derive the budget for ESCAPADE from these numbers, partly because it doesn’t say if any spending preceded it (which someone here knows) but if the budget cap of $55M is assumed for design and construction, the money is almost all spent already.  After this the budget goes into operations  or storage costs early in FY ‘23, which is soon if not now.
But by their own statements, NG won’t even debut in FY ‘24.
How does this award work with this schedule?

So you know the future?  ::)

Apparently I do  ;D
(And you should still stop being nasty. Even if you are insulted, which you were not.)


FYI Next Spaceflight maintains a Manifest for New Glenn. 
Of course, there are still no dates other than NET months for the first two flights.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #108 on: 10/19/2024 11:16 pm »
Do you have a source for the spacecraft cost being $55 million, other than that being the price cap for SIMPLEx missions?

It's in NASA budget request.
Launch costs wouldn’t be included in these mission allocations and budget requests and projections.
It doesn’t appear possible to derive the budget for ESCAPADE from these numbers, partly because it doesn’t say if any spending preceded it (which someone here knows) but if the budget cap of $55M is assumed for design and construction, the money is almost all spent already.  After this the budget goes into operations  or storage costs early in FY ‘23, which is soon if not now.
But by their own statements, NG won’t even debut in FY ‘24.
How does this award work with this schedule?

So you know the future?  ::)

Apparently I do  ;D
(And you should still stop being nasty. Even if you are insulted, which you were not.)


FYI Next Spaceflight maintains a Manifest for New Glenn. 
Of course, there are still no dates other than NET months for the first two flights.


Sorry if I was nasty.
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #109 on: 10/19/2024 11:51 pm »
Not the first time our friend has shot from the hip.

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #110 on: 11/14/2024 08:22 pm »
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1857171736925483059

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.@AST_SpaceMobile selects #NewGlenn to deliver next-generation BlueBird satellites to LEO:

https://www.blueorigin.com/news/ast-spacemobile-selects-blue-origin-new-glenn

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NEWS
NOV 14, 2024
AST SpaceMobile Selects Blue Origin’s New Glenn Rocket to Deliver Next-Generation BlueBird Satellites to Space

Blue Origin today announced a multi-launch agreement to deliver multiple next-generation Block 2 BlueBird satellites to low Earth orbit (LEO) on New Glenn. All launches will occur over a multi-year period from Blue Origin’s Launch Complex 36 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station.

AST SpaceMobile is building the first and only space-based cellular broadband network designed for both commercial and government applications. It will operate directly with everyday smartphones and allow seamless switching between terrestrial cell towers and satellite signals depending on location and coverage needs.

“New Glenn’s performance and unprecedented capacity within its seven-meter fairing enables us to deploy more of our Block 2 BlueBird satellites in orbit, helping provide continuous cellular broadband service coverage across some of the most in-demand cellular markets globally,” said Abel Avellan, Founder, Chairman, and CEO, AST SpaceMobile.

"It’s an honor to support AST SpaceMobile’s deployment of their next generation BlueBird satellites, which will expand connectivity across the globe and positively impact many lives,” said Dave Limp, CEO, Blue Origin. “New Glenn is purpose-built for these kinds of innovative and ambitious missions.”

New Glenn stands more than 320 feet (98 meters) tall and is named after John Glenn, the first person to orbit Earth. Its seven-meter fairing enables twice the payload volume of any five-meter class commercial launch system.

The vehicle’s reusable first stage is designed for a minimum of 25 missions and is powered by seven Blue Origin BE-4 engines, the most powerful liquefied natural gas (LNG)-fueled, oxygen-rich staged combustion engine ever flown. Its second stage is powered by two BE-3U engines. Each BE-3U generates 160,000 lbf of thrust in vacuum. Blue Origin also manufactures BE-7 engines for its Blue Moon lunar landers and New Shepard’s BE-3PM engine. 

New Glenn’s first launch is on track for this year. 

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #111 on: 11/14/2024 08:40 pm »
Can we expect to see new signatures-contracts of the manifest of Blue, after NG-1 launch?


For example AST Spacemobile, said they go to launch the GEN2 with new provider...


Well, well  ;)

https://www.blueorigin.com/news/ast-spacemobile-selects-blue-origin-new-glenn
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #112 on: 11/14/2024 09:04 pm »
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #113 on: 11/14/2024 10:12 pm »
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #114 on: 11/14/2024 10:25 pm »
https://x.com/chenryspace/status/1857195681867255909?s=46&t=u9hd-jMa-pv47GCVD-xH-g

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New AST SpaceMobile launch deets. Firm launches covering 45 sats, options up to 60.

- Blue Origin/New Glenn launches carrying eight sats each
- SpaceX for Falcon 9 carrying four sats each, and
- ISRO for GSLV carrying what sounds like one satellite.

All in 2025 & 2026.

Carrying double the number of satellites versus Falcon 9 would make even as much as a $100M price tag quite competitive.

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #115 on: 11/15/2024 12:01 am »
https://x.com/chenryspace/status/1857195681867255909?s=46&t=u9hd-jMa-pv47GCVD-xH-g

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Caleb Henry
@ChenrySpace
New AST SpaceMobile launch deets. Firm launches covering 45 sats, options up to 60.

- Blue Origin/New Glenn launches carrying eight sats each
- SpaceX for Falcon 9 carrying four sats each, and
- ISRO for GSLV carrying what sounds like one satellite.

All in 2025 & 2026.

Carrying double the number of satellites versus Falcon 9 would make even as much as a $100M price tag quite competitive.

Once reliability and availability are there.  As always - it's not just about price.

But by using multiple vendors, they're making sure they have a way out if one of the rockets becomes unavailable.
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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #116 on: 11/15/2024 01:51 am »
https://x.com/chenryspace/status/1857195681867255909?s=46&t=u9hd-jMa-pv47GCVD-xH-g

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Caleb Henry
@ChenrySpace
New AST SpaceMobile launch deets. Firm launches covering 45 sats, options up to 60.

- Blue Origin/New Glenn launches carrying eight sats each
- SpaceX for Falcon 9 carrying four sats each, and
- ISRO for GSLV carrying what sounds like one satellite.

All in 2025 & 2026.

Carrying double the number of satellites versus Falcon 9 would make even as much as a $100M price tag quite competitive.
Do you think New Glenn will be reliably launching customer payloads before Starship? Maybe, if SpaceX prioritizes its specialized Starlink V2 Pez dispenser over the general-cargo Starship, but I (without hard data) think Starship wins.

Do you think New Glenn will be cheaper than FH in the near term? FH may be more cost-effective than F9 for these satellites, strange as it seems.

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #117 on: 11/15/2024 03:33 am »
Do you think New Glenn will be reliably launching customer payloads before Starship? Maybe, if SpaceX prioritizes its specialized Starlink V2 Pez dispenser over the general-cargo Starship, but I (without hard data) think Starship wins.

Yes. I see New Glenn in the most optimistic case 3 months and in the pessimistic case 6-8 months away from launching a customer payload. I see near zero chance of Starship launching an external customer payload in 2025.

Do you think New Glenn will be cheaper than FH in the near term? FH may be more cost-effective than F9 for these satellites, strange as it seems.

I believe Falcon Heavy is volume-constrained for constellation launches. If it is as cost-effective as you suggest, why do they not use it for Starlink?

No doubt, Starship is the elephant in the room, but it appears there's some breathing room for New Glenn to ramp up before Starship is directly competing in the same markets.

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #118 on: 11/15/2024 04:19 am »
https://twitter.com/blueorigin/status/1857171736925483059

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.@AST_SpaceMobile selects #NewGlenn to deliver next-generation BlueBird satellites to LEO:

https://www.blueorigin.com/news/ast-spacemobile-selects-blue-origin-new-glenn

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NEWS
NOV 14, 2024
AST SpaceMobile Selects Blue Origin’s New Glenn Rocket to Deliver Next-Generation BlueBird Satellites to Space

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New Glenn stands more than 320 feet (98 meters) tall and is named after John Glenn, the first person to orbit Earth. Its seven-meter fairing enables twice the payload volume of any five-meter class commercial launch system.
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Umm...

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Re: New Glenn Launch Manifest
« Reply #119 on: 11/15/2024 12:44 pm »
They fixed it:
"New Glenn stands more than 320 feet (98 meters) tall and is named after John Glenn, the first American to orbit Earth."

Tags: New Glenn escapade 
 

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