Author Topic: Blue Origin Update and Discussion Thread (Read 1398325 times)

alhenry1231 · « **Reply #2180 on:** 08/05/2017 01:12 pm »

My interpretation of the conversation was the method (drogue, 3 parachutes, thruster burn, touchdown) of decelerating the capsule was quite a bit gentler than Russia, albeit still on land.

alhenry1231 · « **Reply #2181 on:** 08/05/2017 01:24 pm »

Could the large diameter of the ring behind Andy be New Glenn work?

Chasm · « **Reply #2182 on:** 08/05/2017 07:01 pm »

Looks about right.
I get somewhere between 8 and 10m diameter. (Taking measurements from a similar high res arstechnica picture. Spot the Werner 6205.

)

Edit says:
The yellow railing of the tall fixture on the left side is at ~13m.
It is ~165 pixel in the twitter pic, the part as a full circle is ~97 pixel. Call it ~7.7m diameter.

The big sliding door in the back has a normal door. Using 2m for it gives ~10m for the part.

The part itself sits between both measurements. So my guess is tooling. Which makes sense. No need to wait for the new factory to get finished to start building tools.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #2183 on:** 08/09/2017 06:40 pm »

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Sen. Bill Nelson at @BlueOrigin KSC facility: "We're going to have several launches a week and, in some cases, two launches a day."

https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status/895350739513597952

Edit to add: http://www.wmfe.org/senator-nelson-visits-blue-origin-oneweb-manufacturing-facilities/76496

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #2184 on:** 08/28/2017 11:13 pm »

New Shepherd flights a step closer:

Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 08/28/2017 11:10 pm

FAA has now issued a revised New Shepherd launch license that permits carrying of passive or active payloads.

We should keep payload discussion to the original thread, but I think the issue of the revised license is a promising sign that more flights are not too far off.

Star One · « **Reply #2185 on:** 09/06/2017 02:16 pm »

You can find some updates regarding New Shepherd in my post about the BBC show The 21st Century Race for Space in this thread.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43647

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #2186 on:** 09/12/2017 09:07 am »

Finally some news:

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Stephen Clark‏ @StephenClark1 8m8 minutes ago

Blue Origin's Mowry: Next version of New Shepard suborbital booster shipped to West Texas launch site to fly before end of this year.

https://twitter.com/StephenClark1/status/907528860568313858

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #2187 on:** 09/12/2017 09:30 am »

Funding update:

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Peter B. de Selding‏ @pbdes 3m3 minutes ago

Clay Mowry @blueorigin: 'Jeff Bezos is committing $2.5-billion of his own resources to fund New Glenn. We dont depend on govt funding.'

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/907535993376530432

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #2188 on:** 09/12/2017 09:49 am »

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Ariane Cornell‏ @arianecornell 20s20 seconds ago

http://Www.blueorigin.com got a refresh! Check out details on #newshepard, #newglenn, our engine tech & Blue careers

https://twitter.com/arianecornell/status/907541239343579136

GWH · « **Reply #2189 on:** 09/12/2017 01:39 pm »

Note that the payload is listed underneath the 3 stage variant, as 13 tonnes to GTO. A breakout between the 2 variants isn't shown.
Either this is poor placement in behalf of the web designer or the expected performance of the 3 stage is much less than people expected, as I thought that was what was listed as the 2 stage performance?

envy887 · « **Reply #2190 on:** 09/12/2017 01:50 pm »

Quote from: GWH on 09/12/2017 01:39 pm

Note that the payload is listed underneath the 3 stage variant, as 13 tonnes to GTO. A breakout between the 2 variants isn't shown.
Either this is poor placement in behalf of the web designer or the expected performance of the 3 stage is much less than people expected, as I thought that was what was listed as the 2 stage performance?

The payload doesn't seem to be attributed to the 3-stage version, it's just part of a random smattering of facts about New Glenn in general.

I still expect the 2-stage version to get 10-13 tonnes to GTO, and the 3-stage to be used for higher energy orbits.

HMXHMX · « **Reply #2191 on:** 09/12/2017 06:02 pm »

Quote from: envy887 on 09/12/2017 01:50 pm

Quote from: GWH on 09/12/2017 01:39 pm
Note that the payload is listed underneath the 3 stage variant, as 13 tonnes to GTO. A breakout between the 2 variants isn't shown.
Either this is poor placement in behalf of the web designer or the expected performance of the 3 stage is much less than people expected, as I thought that was what was listed as the 2 stage performance?

The payload doesn't seem to be attributed to the 3-stage version, it's just part of a random smattering of facts about New Glenn in general.

I still expect the 2-stage version to get 10-13 tonnes to GTO, and the 3-stage to be used for higher energy orbits.

Is there an explicit Blue pronouncement for the mass of the LEO payload for the 2-stage anywhere to be found? I see 45 MT reported but it isn't clear if that is for the 2 or 3 stage variant.

envy887 · « **Reply #2192 on:** 09/12/2017 06:19 pm »

Quote from: HMXHMX on 09/12/2017 06:02 pm

Quote from: envy887 on 09/12/2017 01:50 pm
Quote from: GWH on 09/12/2017 01:39 pm
Note that the payload is listed underneath the 3 stage variant, as 13 tonnes to GTO. A breakout between the 2 variants isn't shown.
Either this is poor placement in behalf of the web designer or the expected performance of the 3 stage is much less than people expected, as I thought that was what was listed as the 2 stage performance?

The payload doesn't seem to be attributed to the 3-stage version, it's just part of a random smattering of facts about New Glenn in general.

I still expect the 2-stage version to get 10-13 tonnes to GTO, and the 3-stage to be used for higher energy orbits.

Is there an explicit Blue pronouncement for the mass of the LEO payload for the 2-stage anywhere to be found? I see 45 MT reported but it isn't clear if that is for the 2 or 3 stage variant.

Yes.

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=10685.msg1671643#msg1671643

See 19:35 into this video:

yg1968 · « **Reply #2193 on:** 09/13/2017 01:24 am »

An update:
http://spacenews.com/blue-origin-enlarges-new-glenns-payload-fairing-preparing-to-debut-upgraded-new-shepard/

ZachS09 · « **Reply #2194 on:** 09/15/2017 12:04 pm »

If New Glenn IS able to lift 13 tons to GTO, is there a chance that it could do dual payload launches similar to Ariane 5?

Kryten · « **Reply #2195 on:** 09/18/2017 08:38 am »

No statement from the company yet, but Bob Smith (formerly CTO of Honeywell) is now listed as Blue CEO on linkedin;
https://www.linkedin.com/in/bob-smith-55411310/

yg1968 · « **Reply #2196 on:** 09/18/2017 04:10 pm »

Some SAAs signed by Blue Origin:
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2017/09/03/nasa-space-act-agreements/

QuantumG · « **Reply #2197 on:** 09/18/2017 09:50 pm »

Nothing funded (for anyone listed), here's the actual document - SpaceX and SNC are the only funded agreements.

Space Ghost 1962 · « **Reply #2198 on:** 09/19/2017 04:57 pm »

Quote from: edkyle99 on 09/15/2017 01:21 pm

Quote from: ZachS09 on 09/15/2017 12:04 pm
If New Glenn IS able to lift 10-13 tons to GTO, is there a chance that it could do dual payload launches similar to Ariane 5?
That is the plan according to Blue Origin's web site, made possible by the 7 meter shroud.

Meanwhile, Arianespace with Ariane 6 is reverting back to single-payload missions (at least with Ariane 6-2). The world keeps changing!

- Ed Kyle

As will Ariane "next" and New Glenn, the latter depending on the BE-4 fortunes on the test stand.

As you should have some relevant, related experience with ...

Rocket Surgeon · « **Reply #2199 on:** 09/26/2017 12:57 am »

Updates for Blue Origin from IAC 2017:
- New GEO Launch added to the manifest for 'mu space' from Thailand
- Factory in Florida 'nearly done'
- They will be 'moving there folks in in early December'
- 'Intergration' of first New Glenn's to begin soon after
- Didn't take the BE-3 out of the New Shepard between the first 3 flights
- Customers wanted the 7m fairing