Author Topic: SpaceX FH : Viasat-3 F1 (R): KSC LC-39A : 30 Apr/1 May 2023 (00:26 UTC)  (Read 277680 times)

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Astranis’ Arcturus satellite is working perfectly. More details on linked Astranis thread:

https://arstechnica.com/space/2023/05/internet-from-a-small-satellite-in-geostationary-orbit-sure-why-not/

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Internet from a small satellite in geostationary orbit? Sure, why not
"We now have a new way of connecting very remote places."

by Eric Berger - May 24, 2023 1:06pm GMT

A startup space company says it has successfully deployed and tested a kitchen-stove-sized satellite in geostationary orbit and begun delivering Internet service to Alaska.

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https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1677884377697763328

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VIASAT 3 [56370, 2023-060A] was launched from the cape by a @SpaceX Falcon Heavy for @ViasatInc on May 1st.  Today, I was updating my Ku beacon library and came across the TT&C signal of what I believe is this object.  However, something seems off.🧵⬇️

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From the previous tweet's video you can see the telemetry signal for the object being tracked fade very deeply in a periodic manner.  This is very unusual for a geostationary satellite that should have 3-axis stabilization to aim it's giant antenna and smaller TT&C antennas. ⬇️

https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1677884385536913408

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An astute reader would wonder why I heard the TT&C beacon on Ku-band and not the operational Ka-Band the spacecraft intends (is) using.  They have their TT&C on Ku according to FCC filings.  See page 5-6. ⬇️ https://fcc.report/IBFS/SAT-MOD-20190617-00047/1737836.pdf

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The plot below shows the odd signal level behaviour from suspected VIASAT 3 over this afternoon when compared to a 'normal' GEO satellite beacon from SES 2 beside it.  Notice the suspect VIASAT 3 fades in and out while SES 2 is stable for the ~10 minute period of this plot.⬇️

https://twitter.com/coastal8049/status/1677884390825922560

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Here's a plot of the suspected VIASAT 3 signal over four hours showing wild yet usually periodic variations in the central carrier's signal level.  The period appears to slowly change over time.  It could suggest commissioning activity or an issue with the spacecraft. 👀 🛰️🛑

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There is another rideshare passenger on the flight.


https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1542096503275196416
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Indonesia asks for 8-month deadline extension to launch 16U cubesat into geo orbit on @SpaceX Falcon Heavy with @ViasatInc Viasat-3 Americas sat. @ITU #SpaceInventor #GravitySpace. https://bit.ly/3ytmwJd

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Indonesia requests ITU deadline extension for Falcon Heavy launch of cubesat into geostationary orbit
written by Peter B. De Selding June 29, 2022
PARIS — The government of Indonesia, seeking to retain Ka- and Ku-band rights to a geostationary orbital slot through the temporary use of a 16U cubesat, is asking for an eight-month extension of the deadline to start operations following the satellite’s launch delay.

The satellite, which Indonesia calls Nusantara-H1-A, will be used by Indonesia for only three months, the regulatory minimum to “bring into use” (BIU) a satellite network. After that, it will move to another location.

GS-1 aka Nusantara H-1A is still not geostationary. ??? How long should that take?
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That's not good.

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1679227217425866752

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.@ViasatInc's Viasat-3 Americas satellite launched May 1 suffers major antenna-deployment anomaly. After more than a month of effort, it's still not fixed. Possible $420M insurance claim and a serious blow to Viasat's near-term growth plans.
« Last Edit: 07/12/2023 08:38 pm by Yellowstone10 »

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Viasat Provides Status Update on ViaSat-3 Americas Satellite
12 Jul, 2023, 16:37 ET

CARLSBAD, Calif., July 12, 2023 /PRNewswire/ -- Viasat, Inc. (NASDAQ: VSAT), a global leader in satellite communications, today disclosed that an unexpected event occurred during reflector deployment that may materially impact the performance of the ViaSat-3 Americas satellite. Viasat and its reflector provider are conducting a rigorous review of the development and deployment of the affected reflector to determine its impact and potential remedial measures.

"We're disappointed by the recent developments," said Mark Dankberg, Chairman and CEO, Viasat. "We're working closely with the reflector's manufacturer to try to resolve the issue. We sincerely appreciate their focused efforts and commitment."

Contingency plans are currently being refined to minimize the economic effect to the company. Potential options include redeploying satellites from Viasat's extensive fleet to optimize global coverage, and/or reallocating a subsequent ViaSat-3 class satellite to provide additional Americas bandwidth. The initial service priority for ViaSat-3 Americas has been to facilitate growth in the company's North American fixed broadband business.

There is no disruption to customers from this event, and no impact to coverage or capacity of the respective Viasat and Inmarsat constellations currently in service. Following the Inmarsat acquisition, Viasat has 12 Ka-band satellites in space, excluding ViaSat-3, with eight additional Ka-band satellites under construction.

The company will share additional information on the status of the ViaSat-3 Americas satellite and any necessary contingency plans during its earnings call which is planned for August 9, 2023.

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Problems with boom & reflector deployment on a new comsat probably have happened in the past.
Could anyone remember when the similar issue occurred before?

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Problems with boom & reflector deployment on a new comsat probably have happened in the past.
Could anyone remember when the similar issue occurred before?

While it was never confirmed to be an antenna deployment failure, the SXM 7 satellite experienced a "payload failure" in early-2021 following its 2020 launch, and was insured for $225M. It did have a similar "unfurlable" antenna.
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Problems with boom & reflector deployment on a new comsat probably have happened in the past.
Could anyone remember when the similar issue occurred before?

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Did ViaSat perform boom & reflector deployment testing on the ground before ViaSat 3 Americas was delivered to Cape Canaveral?

I thought the testing results would have a small section that identifies the reason for the deployment issue if they detected the possibility ahead of time.
« Last Edit: 07/13/2023 12:30 pm by ZachS09 »
SECO confirmed. Nominal orbit insertion.

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Problems with boom & reflector deployment on a new comsat probably have happened in the past.
Could anyone remember when the similar issue occurred before?

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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/12/viasat-stock-drops-after-satellite-malfunction.html

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Viasat plunges toward worst day ever after new satellite malfunctions
Published Wed, Jul 12 20236:38 PM EDTUpdated 4 Hours Ago

Michael Sheetz
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    Viasat disclosed its recently launched Viasat-3 Americas satellite communications satellite suffered a malfunction while deploying its reflector.
    “We’re disappointed by the recent developments,” Viasat CEO Mark Dankberg said in a statement, adding that the company is attempting to resolve the problem.
    Viasat did not disclose the identity of the reflector’s manufacturer, but its design appears to match products offered by Northrop Grumman.
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Shares of Viasat fell as much as 36% in early trading Thursday, putting it on track for its biggest one-day loss since going public in December 1996.
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Maybe this satellite is on the edge of what is technically feasible, at least for its price?
An Orion satellite will probably cost a completely different amount.

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The TT&C signal fading in and out can be a result of attempts to deploy the large reflector. They could be trying different attitudes to position different portions of the deployment mechanism in the Sun and/or spacecraft's shadow for thermal shock to loosen a stuck hinge or actuator. That would result in the TT&C antenna being off-pointed from nominal Earth pointing, thus degrading the Ku signal.

Or they could be rotating the whole satellite to produce some force on the Ka antenna assembly. This would cause the Ku-band TT&C antenna pattern to move in and out of the ground antenna's field of view.
« Last Edit: 07/14/2023 12:16 am by zubenelgenubi »
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https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/12/viasat-stock-drops-after-satellite-malfunction.html

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Viasat plunges toward worst day ever after new satellite malfunctions
Published Wed, Jul 12 20236:38 PM EDTUpdated 4 Hours Ago

Michael Sheetz
@in/michaeljsheetz
@thesheetztweetz
Key Points

    Viasat disclosed its recently launched Viasat-3 Americas satellite communications satellite suffered a malfunction while deploying its reflector.
    “We’re disappointed by the recent developments,” Viasat CEO Mark Dankberg said in a statement, adding that the company is attempting to resolve the problem.
    Viasat did not disclose the identity of the reflector’s manufacturer, but its design appears to match products offered by Northrop Grumman.
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Shares of Viasat fell as much as 36% in early trading Thursday, putting it on track for its biggest one-day loss since going public in December 1996.
...

Maybe this satellite is on the edge of what is technically feasible, at least for its price?
An Orion satellite will probably cost a completely different amount.

Orion I think has an umbrella rib style antenna though. This, and other similar failures are on those expanding double ring types with the stretched catenary mesh grid reflector. Didn't one of the early Thuraya sats also had an issue too?

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Orion I think has an umbrella rib style antenna though. This, and other similar failures are on those expanding double ring types with the stretched catenary mesh grid reflector.
Redacted illustration of Orion doesn't show this antenna design on the spacecraft 📡 (as of 2009).
« Last Edit: 07/13/2023 11:57 pm by zubenelgenubi »
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An MEV (or successor craft) could be very helpful?  At least to visualize a stuck antenna.
« Last Edit: 07/14/2023 12:19 am by zubenelgenubi »
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Did ViaSat perform boom & reflector deployment testing on the ground before ViaSat 3 Americas was delivered to Cape Canaveral?

I thought the testing results would have a small section that identifies the reason for the deployment issue if they detected the possibility ahead of time.
Gravity sometimes prohibits an issue for popping up. The ViaSat-3 constellation was offered at least once in the past stored components from cancelled satellites that were cancelled during or after building.

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An MEV (or successor craft) could be very helpful?  At least to visualize a stuck antenna.

It occurs to me that there are almost certainly assets already in orbit that could provide said visualization, although I don't expect Viasat will be able to get access to those images...

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An MEV (or successor craft) could be very helpful?  At least to visualize a stuck antenna.

It occurs to me that there are almost certainly assets already in orbit that could provide said visualization, although I don't expect Viasat will be able to get access to those images...

Maybe loft up a Rocket Lab Photon bus with some cameras on an Electron for visual imaging. Before someone (the insurer?) try to salvage ViaSat 3.1 with something like the MEV.

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An MEV (or successor craft) could be very helpful?  At least to visualize a stuck antenna.

It occurs to me that there are almost certainly assets already in orbit that could provide said visualization, although I don't expect Viasat will be able to get access to those images...

Maybe loft up a Rocket Lab Photon bus with some cameras on an Electron for visual imaging. Before someone (the insurer?) try to salvage ViaSat 3.1 with something like the MEV.


It can't reach that altitude plus it would require rendezvous sensors.

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Problems with boom & reflector deployment on a new comsat probably have happened in the past.
Could anyone remember when the similar issue occurred before?

Viasat 2

DirecTV 10 had a deployment issue with a spot-beam reflector, though eventually (3+ years later), operators were able to "ameliorate" the issue and the satellite remains in service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T10_(satellite)
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