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Discussion thread for the AMOS-17 mission

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Successful launch August 6, 2019 at 19:23 EDT (23:23 UTC) on reused Falcon 9 (1047.3) to GTO.  The first stage was expended.  A fairing half was successfully caught by Ms. Tree.  Payload wet mass ~6.5t, dry mass ~3t.




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Spacecom Orders Multi-Band High-Throughput Satellite From Boeing Satellite Systems International
AMOS-17, Planned to be Launched in 2019, Will be Multi-Band High-Throughput Satellite (HTS) Servicing Middle East, Europe and Africa from 17°E Orbital Position

Tel Aviv – 21 December 2016: Spacecom (Tel Aviv Stock Exchange: SCC), operator of the AMOS satellite fleet, announced today that it has entered into a satellite procurement agreement with Boeing Satellite Systems International. The deal for AMOS-17 is worth US$161 million.

The new satellite, AMOS-17, expected to be launched in 2019, will operate from 17°E and will expand and strengthen Spacecom’s coverage of the growing satellite service markets in Africa, the Middle East and Europe. AMOS-17 will be designed for an in-orbit life of more than 15 years with payload power of approximately 8.5 kW.

AMOS-17 will offer Ka-band, Ku-band and C-Band services. It will have a combination of broad regional beams and high throughput spot beams to maximize throughput and spectral efficiency. By providing extensive Ka-Band coverage over the Middle East, Europe and Africa, Ku-Band and C-Band over Africa, it will be a catalyst for Spacecom’s growth plans over the next decade.

David Pollack, president and CEO of Spacecom said, “AMOS-17 will be a multi-band high-throughput, state-of-the-art satellite that will provide reliable solutions and offer a significant competitive advantage for our customers. We are pleased to partner with Boeing in making this important addition to our fleet. The Boeing satellite will provide a great fit for Spacecom’s expansion strategy, offering an innovative design with capabilities that provide flexible service offerings to meet the growing demands of our customers. AMOS-17 will enhance our capabilities as a growing and highly capable satellite operator.”

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[SpaceNews Dec. 22, 2016] Ex-Im’s satellite-lending lapse didn’t stop Israel’s Spacecom from buying American
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Spacecom ordered Amos-17 from Boeing Satellite Systems in a $161 million  deal announced Dec. 21 to replace Amos-5, a satellite built by Russia’s ISS Reshetnev around a payload supplied by Thales Alenia Space of France. Amos-5 ceased communicating in November 2015 after a power failure.
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Amos-17 is planned for launch in 2019 and will use chemical propulsion.

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[SpaceNews Oct. 19, 2017] Spacecom returns to SpaceX for one, possibly two launches

Israeli satellite operator Spacecom has agreed to launch its next satellite on a Falcon 9 rocket from SpaceX in 2019, and will likely launch a second satellite on another Falcon 9 in 2020.

In a statement provided to SpaceNews Oct. 18, Spacecom said it “will use full credits from AMOS-6’s unfulfilled September 2016 launch to fully cover AMOS-17’s launch fees.” Another statement, given to the Israeli stock exchange the same day, said the 2019 mission could launch on a previously flown Falcon 9 rocket.

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SPACECOM’S AMOS-17 SATELLITE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETES CRITICAL DESIGN REVIEW (CDR)
AMOS-17 Multi-Band High-Throughput Satellite (HTS) To Service Africa from 17°E Orbital Position, Scheduled for Launch in 2019 via SpaceX Falcon-9

Tel Aviv/Cape Town – 6 November 2017: Spacecom (Tel Aviv Stock Exchange: SCC), operator of the AMOS satellite fleet, announced today that its AMOS-17 communication satellite has successfully completed its Critical Design Review (CDR) and entered full production. Specifically designed for the African continent and scheduled for launch in early 2019, AMOS-17 will operate from 17°E to expand and strengthen Spacecom’s coverage in Africa, the Middle East and Europe. It will offer extensive Ka-band, Ku-band and C-Band HTS services, combining broad regional beams and high throughput spot beams to maximize throughput and spectral efficiency. The satellite’s in-orbit life is expected to be 19 years. 

Boeing Satellite Systems International is building the satellite and SpaceX will send it into orbit on a Falcon-9 launch vehicle.

David Pollack, president and CEO of Spacecom said, “AMOS-17, equipped with latest generation digital payload, represents the most advanced satellite over Africa and further delivers on our long-term commitment to the African market. This satellite will bring multi-band high-throughput technologies to deliver unique service capabilities not possible on traditional satellites. We are introducing cutting edge satellite technology to Africa, that combined with our customer-centric approach, makes Spacecom the ideal choice for service providers. AMOS-17 will advance our support in creating a digital Sub-Sahara Africa society.“

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #1 on: 07/17/2018 10:46 am »
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Multi-Band High-Throughput Satellite (HTS) To Service Africa from 17°E Orbital Position, Scheduled for Launch in Q2 2019
Tel Aviv – 7 March 2018: Spacecom (Tel Aviv Stock Exchange: SCC), operator of the AMOS satellite fleet, announced today that Cobbett Hill Earthstation has entered into a long term agreement for C-Band capacity covering the Sub-Sahara region on the AMOS-17 communication satellite. Scheduled for launch in Q2 2019, AMOS-17 is specifically designed for meeting the growing demands of the African continent. With extensive Ka-band, Ku-band and C-Band HTS services, the satellite will combine broad regional beams and high throughput spot beams to maximize throughput and spectral efficiency from the 17°E orbital position.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #2 on: 07/17/2018 03:26 pm »
Notice from AMOS to TASE (Tel Aviv Stock Exchange) re launch agreement (hebrew)

https://mayafiles.tase.co.il/rpdf/1126001-1127000/P1126845-00.pdf

(Thanks to scr00chy who referenced this in the SpaceIL thread).

Now I tried to get a google translate of the document and I got something really funny.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=iw&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fmayafiles.tase.co.il%2Frpdf%2F1126001-1127000%2FP1126845-00.pdf

It seems that google is reading the pdf from left to right (each character) and most of it is gibberish, but some of the letters make up almost valid hebrew words which google duly translates. have fun trying to read this. (if google translate had an option of ignoring the layout and giving me just the text it would be much more fun to read).

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #3 on: 07/17/2018 11:11 pm »
I hope this doesn't run afoul of the ban on posting rather than links, but being that it's Hebrew and all,....
From Google Translate with editing to remove (some of the) Hebrew syntax and with emphasis added

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www.tase.co.il www.isa.gov.il
Re: Space Communications Ltd. ("the Company") - Immediate Report - Launch Agreement for Amos 17 and a launch agreement for Amos 8 with Space Exploration Technologies Corp.

We are pleased to announce that the Space Exploration Technologies Corp ("SpaceX") signed, on September 18, 2017 an agreement to provide space-launch services to be used for launching the Amos 17 satellite using the Falcon 9 launcher ("Amos 17 Launch Agreement") and to supply satellite launch services for a satellite that is scheduled to be launched to the 4° West orbit position as a switch to the Amos 8 satellite "(Amos 8 )" using the SpaceX Falcon-9 launcher.  "(Amos 8 launch agreement)

The following are the main issues in the Amos 17 launch agreement:
An agreement to launch Amos 17 constitutes a correction, in accordance with the agreement of the parties, of a launch agreement for the Amos 6 satellite between the company and SpaceX.

1. Launch date
The Amos 17 launch is scheduled to be carried out using a Falcon 9 launcher whose performance is according to instructions.  The agreement, and taking into consideration the characteristics of the satellite, is supposed to provide the satellite with a life of about 19 Years, at a three-month time window beginning in the second quarter of 2019.

2. Consideration of the launch services
The consideration paid under the Amos 6 satellite launch agreement prior to the amendment will be recorded and no additional charge will be required for the Amos 17 launch.

3. Conditions for launch
3.1 Conditions have been agreed with regard to scheduling the launch and priorities in various cases. They were also arranged Conditions enabling the launch of the satellite using a Falcon 9 launcher that includes the previously flown first stage.
3.2 The Amos 17 Launch Agreement includes provisions regarding the Company's rights in case of violation of the conditions above.

4.Taxes
The company will bear all the taxes that will apply to the Amos 17 satellite and SpaceX will bear all taxes which will apply to the launcher and launch services.

5. Third party liability insurance for dispatch
SpaceX will acquire a third party liability policy for launch which will also cover the Company's liability for damages, financial or physical, to any third party as a result of the launching activity in accordance with the rules prescribed by the Federal Aviation Authority. The said insurance does not cover damage to the satellite, the Company's assets and / or its personnel. Provisions have also been set regarding the division of the parties' liability for damages not covered by their Insurance.

6. Waiver of mutual claims, indemnification and limitation of liability
The Amos 17 dispatch agreement includes provisions regarding reciprocal waiver of claims between the parties, as well as a ratio between contractors and their customers with respect to damages. It also includes a Amos 17 launch agreement
Provisions regarding indemnification in the event of a claim other than according to the division of liability and limitation
responsibility.

7. Delays in launch
7.1 A delay in dispatch by either party may require the delaying party to pay the same delay to the terms of the Amos 17 launch agreement and provisions were made regarding the distribution of storage expenses of the Satellite and launcher between the parties.
7.2 Force majeure constitutes a waiver of liability. However, the longer the delay, the longer the duration the time agreed upon will constitute grounds for the other party to cancel the agreement and such cases have been set provisions regarding partial restitution or refund, as the case may be and as agreed.

8 Canceling a busy launch agreement
8.1 Cancellation due to breach of agreement
Provisions were set regarding the parties' rights to cancel the agreement due to its breach, including a right the Company shall cancel it in case of delay in dispatch by SpaceX for a period exceeding the duration and provisions were set regarding the monetary rights of the parties in case of cancellation as mentioned.
8.2 Cancellation by the Company for convenience
The Company may cancel the agreement for reasons of convenience with the payment of cancellation fees prescribed in the Amos 17 launch agreement.

9. Licensing and regulation
Each Party shall endeavor to obtain the licenses and authorizations required to perform its obligations under the agreement for the launch of Amos 1.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #4 on: 07/22/2018 01:42 pm »
http://amos-spacecom.com/satellite/amos-17/

has Q2 2019 rather than H1. Is it normal to update thread title?

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AMOS-17 [is] currently undergoing testing and final integration stages [and] is scheduled to be launched in the second quarter of 2019.

https://investingnews.com/daily/tech-investing/cloud-investing/nuran-wireless-partners-with-spacecoms-amos-17-satellite-for-up-to-9m-cad-project-in-africa-2/

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Mmmmm, a spicy, detailed launch schedule multiple months out.

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[Spacecom] said the date range for the [Amos 17] launch was May 20-June 19, but it was targeting the week of May 27 for Elon Musk’s company SpaceX to undertake the launch.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/business-in-brief-spacecom-says-it-will-launch-amos-17-satellite-within-four-months-1.6963136
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #8 on: 04/24/2019 11:34 am »
Amos-17 disappeared from Ben Cooper's launch schedule. Any ideas why?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #9 on: 04/24/2019 01:28 pm »
Amos-17 disappeared from Ben Cooper's launch schedule. Any ideas why?
2020 bump??

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #10 on: 04/24/2019 01:55 pm »
Amos-17 disappeared from Ben Cooper's launch schedule. Any ideas why?
2020 bump??

Doubt that per this:

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/1118633277676556289

They rarely open their media accreditation if the satellite isn't ready.
He might just have forgot about it when editing it.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #12 on: 05/15/2019 01:12 pm »
2019-05-15    2230/-4 F9   1049.3 S     Starlink 1 LEO . C-40 72
2019-06-11    F9                1051.2 L     RADARSAT Constellation SSO ~5k? V-4E 73
2019-06-22   (NET) H         RNR* LSL    STP-2 (US Air Force) MEO ~8k? C-39A (H3)
2019-07-08    F9                1056.2 L     CRS SpX-18 LEO ~10k C-40 .
2019-07        (NET) F9        R               AMOS-17 GTO 5500 C-40 .


Just playing the 1st stage core guessing game, based on the flights scheduled before this.
The reused cores that will be available are 1046.4, 1048.4 and 1047.3.
So unless this flight is the one that gets the first 4th launch, it would have to be 1047.3.  But then I don't understand why 1047 isn't launching Starlink today versus 1049, which had two fewer months for turn-around.
Core reuse is fascinating to me and there's so little information for why operations are as they are.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #13 on: 05/15/2019 08:46 pm »
But then I don't understand why 1047 isn't launching Starlink today versus 1049, which had two fewer months for turn-around.
Amos-17 was originally supposed to launch before Starlink and boosters are assigned to missions quite some time in advance.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #14 on: 05/27/2019 06:02 pm »
https://twitter.com/AMOSSpacecom/status/1132989742541365249
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AMOS-17 is currently undergoing final preparation operations ahead of shipment to Cape Canaveral, FL where it is scheduled to be launched on a Falcon-9 launch vehicle by SpaceX.

h/t to u/Straumli_Blight on r/SpaceX

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #15 on: 06/05/2019 01:14 pm »
As CRS-18 is expected now to launch on July 21 from the same pad, Amos-17 will likely slip to early August.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #16 on: 06/05/2019 02:50 pm »
As CRS-18 is expected now to launch on July 21 from the same pad, Amos-17 will likely slip to early August.

Why can't AMOS 17 launch from 39A? I think there's enough time to turnaround from STP-2 to AMOS 17 (one and a half months).
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #17 on: 06/05/2019 03:09 pm »
As CRS-18 is expected now to launch on July 21 from the same pad, Amos-17 will likely slip to early August.

Why can't AMOS 17 launch from 39A? I think there's enough time to turnaround from STP-2 to AMOS 17 (one and a half months).

It could but currently they're planning it out of 40 so while that helds true they will have to wait until August for Amos 17

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #18 on: 06/26/2019 07:58 am »
Ben Cooper’s website now states it is going to launch from LC-39A in late July.

EDIT: And now he has removed a platform information for this flight.
« Last Edit: 06/26/2019 02:30 pm by Elthiryel »
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : AMOS-17 : August 3, 2019 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #19 on: 07/07/2019 02:29 am »
Going deeper into Ben Cooper's web site, to his AMOS-17 page:
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Falcon 9 launches AMOS-17 7/27/19, 6:49 pm [EDT]
EDITED for math: 18:49 EDT + 4:00 = 2249 UTC

However, I don't know if this is the most current information that he has.
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