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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #720 on: 12/19/2018 09:22 am »
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #722 on: 12/26/2018 05:42 pm »
Please does someone knows the number of Fregat M for Kanopus 5 and 6? I couldnt find here.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #723 on: 12/27/2018 06:58 pm »
Please does someone knows the number of Fregat M for Kanopus 5 and 6? I couldnt find here.
Per other sites: 122-06

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #724 on: 12/29/2018 12:06 pm »
The latest documents from Progress indicate we will see a few more Soyuz rockets this year.

In the past each rocket and fairing had a matching factory serial number. These are the machine series numbers. That changed recently, and each type of rocket and each type of fairing have their own series.

Since 2005 there have been 35 81КС type fairings, before the dedicated 147-series.

2М147С - for Soyuz-STB 1М143С №016(?), Arianespace rocket №29
4М147С - for Soyuz-STA 1М142С №010(?)
6М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 6М141С
7М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 7М141С
8М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 8М141С
9М147С - for Soyuz-STB №018(?) 3М143С
10М147С - for 372РН16 №004 3М152С
11М147С - for 372РН17 №003 3М154С
24М147С - for Soyuz-STB №019(?) 4М143С
25М147С - for Soyuz-STB №020(?) 5М143С

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/plan/public/plan/info/actual-common-info.html?planId=448269&planInfoId=2880374&epz=true&style44=false
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31806757725
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31807362644
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #725 on: 12/31/2018 01:02 pm »
The latest documents from Progress indicate we will see a few more Soyuz rockets this year.

In the past each rocket and fairing had a matching factory serial number. These are the machine series numbers. That changed recently, and each type of rocket and each type of fairing have their own series.

Since 2005 there have been 36 81КС type fairings, before the dedicated 147-series.

2М147С - for Soyuz-STB 1М143С №016(?), Arianespace rocket №29
4М147С - for Soyuz-STA 1М142С №010(?)
6М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 6М141С
7М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 7М141С
8М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 8М141С
9М147С - for Soyuz-STB №018(?) 3М143С
10М147С - for 372РН16 №004 3М152С
11М147С - for 372РН17 №003 3М154С
24М147С - for Soyuz-STB №019(?) 4М143С
25М147С - for Soyuz-STB №020(?) 5М143С

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/plan/public/plan/info/actual-common-info.html?planId=448269&planInfoId=2880374&epz=true&style44=false
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31806757725
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31807362644

To summarize:
Rocket 4/141 with fairing 1/147 (36) OneWeb Baikonur-1
Rocket 1/143 with fairing 2/147 (37) OneWeb CSG-1
Rocket 2/143 with fairing 3/147 (38) O3b
Rocket 1/142 with fairing 4/147 (39) Galileo
Rocket 5/141 with fairing 5/147 (40) OneWeb Baikonur-2
Rocket 6/141 with fairing 6/147 (41) OneWeb Baikonur-3
Rocket 7/141 with fairing 7/147 (42) OneWeb Baikonur-4
Rocket 8/141 with fairing 8/147 (43) OneWeb Baikonur-5
Rocket 3/143 with fairing 9/147 (44) OneWeb CSG-2
Rocket 12/141 with fairing 10/147 (45) OneWeb Baikonur-6
Rocket 2/142 with fairing 11/147 (46) Galileo
Rocket 15/141 with fairing 12/147 (47) OneWeb Baikonur-7
Rocket 4/154 with fairing 13/147 (48) OneWeb Vostochnyi-1
Rocket 5/154 with fairing 14/147 (49) OneWeb Vostochnyi-2
Rocket 6/154 with fairing 15/147 (50) OneWeb Vostochnyi-3
Rocket 7/154 with fairing 16/147 (51) OneWeb Vostochnyi-4
Rocket 8/154 with fairing 17/147 (52) OneWeb Vostochnyi-5
Rocket 9/154 with fairing 18/147 (53) OneWeb Vostochnyi-6
Rocket 16/141 with fairing 19/147 (54) OneWeb Baikonur-8
Rocket 17/141 with fairing 20/147 (55) OneWeb Baikonur-9
Rocket 18/141 with fairing 21/147 (56) OneWeb Baikonur-10
Rocket 19/141 with fairing 22/147 (57) OneWeb Baikonur-11
Rocket 3/142 with fairing 23/147 (58) Galileo
Rocket 4/143 with fairing 24/147 (59) ObeWeb CSG-3
Rocket 5/143 with fairing 25/147 (60) OneWeb CSG-4
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #726 on: 01/01/2019 08:20 am »
The latest documents from Progress indicate we will see a few more Soyuz rockets this year.

In the past each rocket and fairing had a matching factory serial number. These are the machine series numbers. That changed recently, and each type of rocket and each type of fairing have their own series.

Since 2005 there have been 35 81КС type fairings, before the dedicated 147-series.

2М147С - for Soyuz-STB 1М143С №016(?), Arianespace rocket №29
4М147С - for Soyuz-STA 1М142С №010(?)
6М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 6М141С
7М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 7М141С
8М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 8М141С
9М147С - for Soyuz-STB №018(?) 3М143С
10М147С - for 372РН16 №004 3М152С
11М147С - for 372РН17 №003 3М154С
24М147С - for Soyuz-STB №019(?) 4М143С
25М147С - for Soyuz-STB №020(?) 5М143С

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/plan/public/plan/info/actual-common-info.html?planId=448269&planInfoId=2880374&epz=true&style44=false
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31806757725
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31807362644

To summarise:
Rocket 4/141 with fairing 1/147 (36) OneWeb Baikonur-1
Rocket 1/143 with fairing 2/147 (37) OneWeb CSG-1
Rocket 2/143 with fairing 3/147 (38) O3b
Rocket 1/142 with fairing 4/147 (39) Galileo
Rocket 5/141 with fairing 5/147 (40) OneWeb Baikonur-2
Rocket 6/141 with fairing 6/147 (41) OneWeb Baikonur-3
Rocket 7/141 with fairing 7/147 (42) OneWeb Baikonur-4
Rocket 8/141 with fairing 8/147 (43) OneWeb Baikonur-5
Rocket 3/143 with fairing 9/147 (44) OneWeb CSG-2
Rocket 12/141 with fairing 10/147 (45) OneWeb Baikonur-6
Rocket 2/142 with fairing 11/147 (46) Galileo
Rocket 15/141 with fairing 12/147 (47) OneWeb Baikonur-7
Rocket 4/154 with fairing 13/147 (48) OneWeb Vostochnyi-1
Rocket 5/154 with fairing 14/147 (49) OneWeb Vostochnyi-2
Rocket 6/154 with fairing 15/147 (50) OneWeb Vostochnyi-3
Rocket 7/154 with fairing 16/147 (51) OneWeb Vostochnyi-4
Rocket 8/154 with fairing 17/147 (52) OneWeb Vostochnyi-5
Rocket 9/154 with fairing 18/147 (53) OneWeb Vostochnyi-6
Rocket 16/141 with fairing 19/147 (54) OneWeb Baikonur-8
Rocket 17/141 with fairing 20/147 (55) OneWeb Baikonur-9
Rocket 18/141 with fairing 21/147 (56) OneWeb Baikonur-10
Rocket 19/141 with fairing 22/147 (57) OneWeb Baikonur-11
Rocket 3/142 with fairing 23/147 (58) Galileo
Rocket 4/143 with fairing 24/147 (59) ObeWeb CSG-3
Rocket 5/143 with fairing 25/147 (60) OneWeb CSG-4

Interesting that you list the 142s against Galileo. They are STA?

Also, I think, confirms 3/152 and 3/154 are the two remaining rockets from a contract for six rockets. That contract also includes two 81КС fairings.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #727 on: 01/01/2019 11:51 am »
Interesting that you list the 142s against Galileo. They are STA?

Yes, but there are too much assumptions in this list.

Also, I think, confirms 3/152 and 3/154 are the two remaining rockets from a contract for six rockets. That contract also includes two 81КС fairings

Yes, I have forgotten about them. Thanks! But they are now for Kondor-M and Luna-Glob, so with 14С737 fairing.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #728 on: 01/26/2019 08:03 pm »
According to the most recent listings version on the "Russian space launches (part 2)" thread, the last use of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle is to launch Soyuz MS-15 later this year.

After this, all Soyuz s/c will launch on Soyuz-2-1a.

Last 3 before retirement:
Soyuz MS-12,
Soyuz MS-13,
Soyuz MS-15

Q1) Seeking confirmation: Is this correct?

Q2) Will there be any "left-over" Soyuz-FG?

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #729 on: 01/27/2019 06:27 pm »
According to the most recent listings version on the "Russian space launches (part 2)" thread, the last use of the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle is to launch Soyuz MS-15 later this year.

After this, all Soyuz s/c will launch on Soyuz-2-1a.

Last 3 before retirement:
Soyuz MS-12,
Soyuz MS-13,
Soyuz MS-15

Q1) Seeking confirmation: Is this correct?

Q2) Will there be any "left-over" Soyuz-FG?
Q1: subject to change, but accurate at present.

Q2: Like previous Soyuz versions, the leftover launchers are converted to the next version (barring major changes which prevent conversion). Very few launchers in whole have been leftover in the past. Individual stages such as Blok-E, L, I however do sometimes survive and end up in museums after a while.

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #730 on: 02/01/2019 12:06 pm »
Soyuz-FG №Н15000-068 was delivered to the launch site with fairing №Я15000-091.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/44fz/filestore/public/1.0/download/rgk2/file.html?uid=80D23ABB48DC0028E0530A86120D360C
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #731 on: 02/01/2019 02:02 pm »
Soyuz-FG №Н15000-068 was delivered to the launch site with fairing №Я15000-091.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/44fz/filestore/public/1.0/download/rgk2/file.html?uid=80D23ABB48DC0028E0530A86120D360C
Н15000-068 was used in November 2018 for Progress MS-10.
Is H15000-069 meant?
A typo in the document?
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #732 on: 02/04/2019 06:59 pm »
Interesting that you list the 142s against Galileo. They are STA?

Yes, but there are too much assumptions in this list.

Also, I think, confirms 3/152 and 3/154 are the two remaining rockets from a contract for six rockets. That contract also includes two 81КС fairings

Yes, I have forgotten about them. Thanks! But they are now for Kondor-M and Luna-Glob, so with 14С737 fairing.


Galileo never flew an ST-A from CSG, only ST-B

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #733 on: 02/04/2019 07:21 pm »
The latest documents from Progress indicate we will see a few more Soyuz rockets this year.

In the past each rocket and fairing had a matching factory serial number. These are the machine series numbers. That changed recently, and each type of rocket and each type of fairing have their own series.

Since 2005 there have been 35 81КС type fairings, before the dedicated 147-series.

2М147С - for Soyuz-STB 1М143С №016(?), Arianespace rocket №29
4М147С - for Soyuz-STA 1М142С №010(?)
6М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 6М141С
7М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 7М141С
8М147С - for Soyuz-2.1b 8М141С
9М147С - for Soyuz-STB №018(?) 3М143С
10М147С - for 372РН16 №004 3М152С
11М147С - for 372РН17 №003 3М154С
24М147С - for Soyuz-STB №019(?) 4М143С
25М147С - for Soyuz-STB №020(?) 5М143С

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/plan/public/plan/info/actual-common-info.html?planId=448269&planInfoId=2880374&epz=true&style44=false
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31806757725
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31807362644

Thanks, so

2М147С - for Soyuz-STB 1М143С №016(?), Arianespace rocket №29 is probably SZ29 / У15000-016 for VS21 I guess ? (I know for sure SZ29 was initially assigned to VS21 by AE)


VS22 is for O3b and they normally fly on A ST-B, so who is going to fly the ST-A (1М142С) (with У15000-010 as probable sn)
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #734 on: 02/04/2019 08:12 pm »
so who is going to fly the ST-A (1М142С) (with У15000-010 as probable sn)


VS23 with CSG-1,CHEOPS and others maybe? The similar launch of Sentinel 1B/MICROSCOPE was also ST-A
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #735 on: 02/04/2019 08:30 pm »
so who is going to fly the ST-A (1М142С) (with У15000-010 as probable sn)


VS23 with CSG-1,CHEOPS and others maybe? The similar launch of Sentinel 1B/MICROSCOPE was also ST-A

last time I checked that was a ST-B but I have not confirmed this

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #736 on: 02/07/2019 05:35 pm »
Do we have confirmation that У15000-016 is for VS21?

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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #737 on: 02/09/2019 03:26 pm »
so who is going to fly the ST-A (1М142С) (with У15000-010 as probable sn)


VS23 with CSG-1,CHEOPS and others maybe? The similar launch of Sentinel 1B/MICROSCOPE was also ST-A

last time I checked that was a ST-B but I have not confirmed this

Possibly CSO-2; (AFAIK CSG-2 will launch on a Vega-C)

Have several of the launchers already launched. AFAIK there are no more Soyuz Galileo launches in the backlog.
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #738 on: 02/09/2019 07:59 pm »
There is several conflicting tenders that cover the transportation of the Soyuz-ST rockets to the launch site. The manufacturer Progress insures the transportation of the rockets. Those cover a whole year, so do not show later changes? There are another set of tenders issued closer to the time of actual shipment.

The sequence of deliveries:-

Rocket №27 - an ST-B used for VS19 METOP-C
Rocket №29 - an ST-B to be used for VS21 Oneweb

Rocket №26 - an ST-A used for VS20 CSO-1
Rocket №33

Then based on last years insurance document:-

Soyuz-ST-A 1М142С
Soyuz-ST-B 3М143С

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31806757725

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31603691889
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31806140248
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31604292564
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/purchase/public/purchase/info/common-info.html?regNumber=31705239310

So just to help understand those different numbers…
In the factory, RKTs Progress refers to its rockets by machine series number. An example is 25М137С; the 25th machine of the 137th series.
When it is handed to the customer it is stamped with a sequential tail number like №У15000-014, making it the 14th Soyuz-ST-B rocket.
Arianespace also have a sequential number for the rockets they receive. So the above example was Arianespace rocket №27, or SZ27.

See here:-
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=13239.msg1875261#msg1875261
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Re: Information about Soyuz rocket
« Reply #739 on: 02/12/2019 08:40 pm »
FYI:
http://russianspaceweb.com/soyuz-ms-soyuz2-1a.html
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Cosmonaut launches to move to the 2.1a variant of the Soyuz rocket

The introduction of the Soyuz MS series coincided with the effort to transfer Russian manned launches to the Soyuz 2-1a rocket variant. The move would allow Russia to retire the Soyuz-FG launch vehicle which used Ukrainian flight control avionics. The new integrated Soyuz-2-1a launch vehicle with the Soyuz-MS spacecraft received the industrial designation 371KK35.

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-ракетно-космический комплекс (РКК) «Прогресс-МС» 371КК34 в составе:
ракета-носитель «Союз-2» этапа 1А (14А14);
космическая головная часть (далее - КГЧ) 372КГ07 в составе:
сборочно-защитный блок ТГК «Прогресс-МС» (11С517А2);
ТГК «Прогресс-МС» (11Ф615);
- ракетно-космический комплекс (РКК) «Союз-МС» 371КК35 в составе:
ракета-носитель «Союз-2» этапа 1А 14А14;
космическая головная часть (далее - КГЧ) 372КГ08 в составе:
сборочно-защитный блок ТПК «Союз-МС» (11С517АЗ);
ТПК «Союз-МС» (11Ф732);
- ракетно-космический комплекс (РКК) «Союз-МС» 371КК36 в составе:
ракета-носитель «Союз-ФГ» 11А511У-ФГ;
космическая головная часть (далее - КГЧ) 372КГ17 в составе:
сборочно-защитный блок ТПК «Союз-МС» (11С517АЗ);
ТПК «Союз-МС» (11Ф732);
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/order/notice/ep44/view/common-info.html?regNumber=0995000000219000008
« Last Edit: 02/12/2019 09:01 pm by Stan Black »

 

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