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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #340 on: 12/14/2018 10:10 am »
In other news, SpaceX now appears to have 2 job openings for the South Texas launch site:

ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH & SAFETY SPECIALIST: Brownsville, TX

LEAD ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH & SAFETY ENGINEER: Brownsville, TX

The SpaceX web site now shows only one job posting for Brownsville, TX.
https://www.spacex.com/careers/list?location%5B%5D=1356

So it looks like the Lead Environmental Health & Safety Engineer position has been filled.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #341 on: 12/14/2018 05:06 pm »
A pic of the control center area.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #342 on: 12/14/2018 10:44 pm »
 I'm waiting to see if that thing gets cladding, since the steel tank is a little smaller than the concrete base. If they add some fins and make it 380 feet tall, they could have a full scale BFR/BFS mockup.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #343 on: 12/15/2018 06:15 am »
My theory is that this tower is the Control Center / Observation Tower, like they have a airports. I believe it will be styled to look like the Starship with the windows facing the launch pad and fins too. If I am right the height should be about 40 meters on cylindrical part before tapering the nose. If each ring is ~4 meters and the base 5 meters then about 9 rings high. So we will see if they add 4 more rings.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #344 on: 12/15/2018 07:43 pm »

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #345 on: 12/15/2018 10:29 pm »
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10215599441130789&set=a.10211773849293384&type=3
Aerial view of the launch site progress so

The same image at higher resolution, credit Collin Baggett.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #346 on: 12/15/2018 10:50 pm »
What's this?

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #347 on: 12/15/2018 11:01 pm »
What's this?
Just a bunch of trusses and concrete pipe laying in the mud. Anybody's guess.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #348 on: 12/16/2018 05:53 pm »
This is how it looks today. There has been 3 openings cut out.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #349 on: 12/16/2018 06:08 pm »
This is how it looks today. There has been 3 openings cut out.
Maybe that's for the fins.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #350 on: 12/16/2018 10:39 pm »
3 fins, 3 openings, yup, adds up!

If it is indeed the Starship-hopper (hiphopper?) then SpaceX would blow the collective mind of all us NSF'ers, I think.

I guess it makes sense that the outer-mold line doesn't need a lot of care. Just have *pretty much* the same aerodynamics. It is for the low speed regime anyway.

The more finicky bits - engines, tanks and legs - are made at McGregor and can then be plopped into place, bolted on, after which the tapered upper half of the fuselage is put on as a lid to close out construction.

That final assembly would perhaps be done closer to the launch site, which doesn't need to be particularly fancy. They are simulating landing and lift-off on unprepared ground, after all.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #351 on: 12/17/2018 06:33 am »
This is how it looks today. There has been 3 openings cut out.
Maybe that's for the fins.

3 fins, 3 openings, yup, adds up!

If it is indeed the Starship-hopper (hiphopper?) ...

A Starship hopper that is literally bolted to a concrete foundation is unlikely to do any hopping at all.
As usual, you guys and girls are over-analyzing this.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #352 on: 12/17/2018 08:14 am »
Seriously, other than a water tower, what else could it be?  A base for another tracking antenna?  It's a foundation for a structure, not a play spaceship. 
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #353 on: 12/17/2018 09:20 am »
Seriously, other than a water tower, what else could it be?  A base for another tracking antenna?  It's a foundation for a structure, not a play spaceship. 

Then, how about a Starship gift store>?   ;)
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #354 on: 12/17/2018 10:27 am »
This is how it looks today. There has been 3 openings cut out.
Maybe that's for the fins.

3 fins, 3 openings, yup, adds up!

If it is indeed the Starship-hopper (hiphopper?) ...

A Starship hopper that is literally bolted to a concrete foundation is unlikely to do any hopping at all.
As usual, you guys and girls are over-analyzing this.

Or, just possibly, joking.....

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #355 on: 12/17/2018 02:08 pm »
bolted to a concrete foundation
You may be wrong but you may be right as Billy Joel once said.  I seem to be playing the part of tube's advocate.
Many rockets start out bolted to the pad.  Have we seen it to be bolted on?
Do we know if that concrete base has a significant foundation under it or if its just a ring of concrete setting essentially on top of the ground?  ...Though if it was just a light duty base to assemble the tube on I suppose it would have been easier to assemble the steel tube on a flat slab extended out of the tent slab.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #356 on: 12/17/2018 02:30 pm »
bolted to a concrete foundation
You may be wrong but you may be right as Billy Joel once said.  I seem to be playing the part of tube's advocate.
Many rockets start out bolted to the pad.  Have we seen it to be bolted on?
Do we know if that concrete base has a significant foundation under it or if its just a ring of concrete setting essentially on top of the ground?  ...Though if it was just a light duty base to assemble the tube on I suppose it would have been easier to assemble the steel tube on a flat slab extended out of the tent slab.

I too couldn't believe they were assembling the hopper in this manner.  That was until they cut the three holes.  After that I came up with this very speculative opinion.  What if the concrete structure is simply a jig to aid in the assembly.  You can see the steel brackets on the top of the structure for this purpose.  Assemble the tank flight structure on the concrete.  After that is complete lift it off the concrete then set it aside.  The thrust structure is probably not ready at this time. but once it is place it on the concrete, build it up, install the engine(s).  When complete, add the tanks to the thrust structure and you have a hopper assembled and ready to move to a pad.  This is highly speculative and I would be surprised that SX would deviate aerospace standards and assemble a flight vehicle in the open air.  Just a thought.  The three cutouts threw me for a loop.

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SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #357 on: 12/17/2018 02:53 pm »
Seriously, other than a water tower, what else could it be?  A base for another tracking antenna?  It's a foundation for a structure, not a play spaceship.
A GSE fit test structure (for the development of a “MegaTEL”).
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #358 on: 12/17/2018 02:53 pm »

Or, just possibly, joking.....
  Or trolling.
 Oh, wait. It was me.

 I should remind everyone that my predictions have been 100% so far.
 (100% wrong, but at least they're consistent)
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SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 8
« Reply #359 on: 12/17/2018 03:05 pm »
Seriously, other than a water tower, what else could it be?  A base for another tracking antenna?  It's a foundation for a structure, not a play spaceship.
A GSE fit test structure (for the development of a “MegaTEL”).
Just to refine my statement a bit more, we’ve have seen on both coasts that SpaceX likes to build their TELs and reaction frames under large sprung structures. I seem to recall seeing a large (and potentially growing) sprung structure at BC - now where was it...

Oh yeah, right next to the ~9 meter diameter mystery structure.

Go figure
« Last Edit: 12/17/2018 03:06 pm by Johnnyhinbos »
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