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Re: Upcoming Talks - SpaceX Related
« Reply #140 on: 04/11/2018 07:42 pm »
https://ted2018.ted.com/speakers#gwynne-shotwell

Gwynne Shotwell at TED

Wednesday, April 11, 11:00AM - 12:45PM PDT

It's an odd mishmash of random "techy" people, only other person involved in aerospace is Rodin Lyasoff, CEO of Airbus' Silicon Valley startup.
It's today. Anybody able and willing to post the highlights?

I'll have video access NET April 16. Their livestream pricing is basically a scam at $150 for a single day.

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Re: Upcoming Talks - SpaceX Related
« Reply #141 on: 04/11/2018 08:46 pm »
Posted in the reddit SpaceXlounge

https://twitter.com/TEDTalks/status/984154476226293760

Within a decade, @SpaceX plans to make rocket flights possible, so you'll be able to get from New York to Shanghai in an hour. Gwynne Shotwell #TED2018

A poster did not want to go into details but he said Gwynne Shotwell is BULLISH (in capital letters) on all aspects of BFR. One point above.


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Re: Upcoming Talks - SpaceX Related
« Reply #142 on: 04/11/2018 09:06 pm »
Posted in the reddit SpaceXlounge

https://twitter.com/TEDTalks/status/984154476226293760

Within a decade, @SpaceX plans to make rocket flights possible, so you'll be able to get from New York to Shanghai in an hour. Gwynne Shotwell #TED2018

A poster did not want to go into details but he said Gwynne Shotwell is BULLISH (in capital letters) on all aspects of BFR. One point above.
https://twitter.com/TEDTalks/status/984151193474580480?s=20

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"We're standing on the shoulders of giants. We got to look at the rocket industry and developments to date and pick the best ideas, leverage them." — Gwynne Shotwell on what makes @SpaceX successful #TED2018
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You want to be inspired by things. You want to wake up in the morning and think the future is going to be great. That's what being a spacefaring civilization is all about. It's about believing in the future and believing the future will be better than the past. And I can't think of anything more exciting than being out there among the stars.

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« Reply #143 on: 04/11/2018 09:29 pm »
SpaceX's president revealed a key element that has made Elon Musk's rocket company so successful

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-ted-2018-4

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A key component of SpaceX's success, she said, has been the freedom that engineers there have to design rockets without having to build upon or integrate antiquated systems. As Shotwell described it, rocket scientists have created and constructed their enormous vehicles from a "clean sheet of paper."

Unlike rocket scientists at NASA and companies like Boeing, SpaceX's engineers didn't have any pre-designed technology that they "had to include" in their rockets, according to Shotwell, who is a mechanical engineer by training.

She went on to explain that SpaceX engineers got to look at the development of the rocket industry to date and pick only the "best ideas and leverage them," without having to design around "legacy components that maybe weren't the most reliable, or were particularly expensive."

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« Reply #144 on: 04/12/2018 12:58 am »
Also, Shotwell talked about Earth P2P within that decade.

Wired....

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The rockets would take off from launch pads on bodies of water outside of major cities, and Shotwell noted that the longest time spent traveling would be on the boat ride. SpaceX aims to introduce this service within a decade.

The moderator expressed skepticism on such an ambitious timeline. Shotwell did not waver in her response. “That’s my time, not Elon time.”
« Last Edit: 04/12/2018 01:08 am by docmordrid »
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Re: Upcoming Talks - SpaceX Related
« Reply #145 on: 04/12/2018 01:18 am »
SpaceX's president revealed a key element that has made Elon Musk's rocket company so successful

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-ted-2018-4

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A key component of SpaceX's success, she said, has been the freedom that engineers there have to design rockets without having to build upon or integrate antiquated systems. As Shotwell described it, rocket scientists have created and constructed their enormous vehicles from a "clean sheet of paper."

Unlike rocket scientists at NASA and companies like Boeing, SpaceX's engineers didn't have any pre-designed technology that they "had to include" in their rockets, according to Shotwell, who is a mechanical engineer by training.

She went on to explain that SpaceX engineers got to look at the development of the rocket industry to date and pick only the "best ideas and leverage them," without having to design around "legacy components that maybe weren't the most reliable, or were particularly expensive."

On its face, this is a throwaway comment.  It seems it was intended to be a dig at Boeing.  And it seems it's a dig because Boeing is winning. 

There are no constraints within Boeing to build or design based on "this" or because supplier X has to be included for "that". 

Relative to her comment, there is rationale on learning from the past.  What has worked, what hasn't and correcting that.  This statement, on its face, implies they are better without having that.  And that is false. 

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« Reply #146 on: 04/12/2018 01:37 am »
SpaceX's president revealed a key element that has made Elon Musk's rocket company so successful

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-ted-2018-4

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A key component of SpaceX's success, she said, has been the freedom that engineers there have to design rockets without having to build upon or integrate antiquated systems. As Shotwell described it, rocket scientists have created and constructed their enormous vehicles from a "clean sheet of paper."

Unlike rocket scientists at NASA and companies like Boeing, SpaceX's engineers didn't have any pre-designed technology that they "had to include" in their rockets, according to Shotwell, who is a mechanical engineer by training.

She went on to explain that SpaceX engineers got to look at the development of the rocket industry to date and pick only the "best ideas and leverage them," without having to design around "legacy components that maybe weren't the most reliable, or were particularly expensive."

On its face, this is a throwaway comment.  It seems it was intended to be a dig at Boeing.  And it seems it's a dig because Boeing is winning. 
Winning at what exactly? I’m not implying their losing either, but what are they winning at?
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There are no constraints within Boeing to build or design based on "this" or because supplier X has to be included for "that". 
SLS is absolutely required to use shuttle legacy bits and suppliers in its design and operation. That’s the whole point of the program.

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Relative to her comment, there is rationale on learning from the past.  What has worked, what hasn't and correcting that.  This statement, on its face, implies they are better without having that.  And that is false.
It says the exact opposite of what you’re implying it says. It says specifically that they are free to look at what has been used in the past, take the best stuff that works well, and forge new ground elsewhere. How’s is that not exactly what you’d want them to be doing?

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Re: Upcoming Talks - SpaceX Related
« Reply #147 on: 04/12/2018 01:44 am »
SpaceX's president revealed a key element that has made Elon Musk's rocket company so successful

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-ted-2018-4

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A key component of SpaceX's success, she said, has been the freedom that engineers there have to design rockets without having to build upon or integrate antiquated systems. As Shotwell described it, rocket scientists have created and constructed their enormous vehicles from a "clean sheet of paper."

Unlike rocket scientists at NASA and companies like Boeing, SpaceX's engineers didn't have any pre-designed technology that they "had to include" in their rockets, according to Shotwell, who is a mechanical engineer by training.

She went on to explain that SpaceX engineers got to look at the development of the rocket industry to date and pick only the "best ideas and leverage them," without having to design around "legacy components that maybe weren't the most reliable, or were particularly expensive."

On its face, this is a throwaway comment.  It seems it was intended to be a dig at Boeing.  And it seems it's a dig because Boeing is winning. 
Winning at what exactly? I’m not implying their losing either, but what are they winning at?
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There are no constraints within Boeing to build or design based on "this" or because supplier X has to be included for "that". 
SLS is absolutely required to use shuttle legacy bits and suppliers in its design and operation. That’s the whole point of the program.

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Relative to her comment, there is rationale on learning from the past.  What has worked, what hasn't and correcting that.  This statement, on its face, implies they are better without having that.  And that is false.
It says the exact opposite of what you’re implying it says. It says specifically that they are free to look at what has been used in the past, take the best stuff that works well, and forge new ground elsewhere. How’s is that not exactly what you’d want them to be doing?

1.  CST-100 will be first to ISS

2.  SLS is not the definition of Boeing. 

3.  Ok, I'll give you that.  But that said, am I to assume because she said it, that this is a new thought process unique to only SpaceX?

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« Reply #148 on: 04/12/2018 02:00 am »
2.  SLS is not the definition of Boeing. 

Boeing's CEO certainly thinks SLS is their rocket: https://www.space.com/39014-will-boeing-beat-spacex-to-mars.html

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According to Fortune, Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg was speaking on CNBC today when host Jim Cramer asked whether Boeing or SpaceX would "get a man on Mars first."

"Eventually we're going to go to Mars, and I firmly believe the first person that sets foot on Mars will get there on a Boeing rocket," Muilenburg said, according to Fortune.

BTW Boeing never said anything about CST-100 being first to ISS, they don't frame Commercial Crew as competition, thus there's no need for Shotwell to "dig at Boeing" for CST-100, why should she?

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« Reply #149 on: 04/12/2018 02:10 am »
1.  CST-100 will be first to ISS

Gonna need a source there, preferably one that is not a crystal ball.

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« Reply #150 on: 04/12/2018 02:31 am »
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On its face, this is a throwaway comment.  It seems it was intended to be a dig at Boeing.  And it seems it's a dig because Boeing is winning. 

There are no constraints within Boeing to build or design based on "this" or because supplier X has to be included for "that". 

Relative to her comment, there is rationale on learning from the past.  What has worked, what hasn't and correcting that.  This statement, on its face, implies they are better without having that.  And that is false.
I would not limit it to Boeing. It's a dig at all the US companies that failed to compete in the commercial launch business. SpaceX is clearly doing something differently. Please look at the attached chart and explain how Boeing is "winning." I have no animus toward Boeing but no one can afford to fly their rockets very often (Delta IV and soon SLS).
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« Reply #151 on: 04/12/2018 02:33 am »
SpaceX's president revealed a key element that has made Elon Musk's rocket company so successful

http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-ted-2018-4

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A key component of SpaceX's success, she said, has been the freedom that engineers there have to design rockets without having to build upon or integrate antiquated systems. As Shotwell described it, rocket scientists have created and constructed their enormous vehicles from a "clean sheet of paper."

Unlike rocket scientists at NASA and companies like Boeing, SpaceX's engineers didn't have any pre-designed technology that they "had to include" in their rockets, according to Shotwell, who is a mechanical engineer by training.

She went on to explain that SpaceX engineers got to look at the development of the rocket industry to date and pick only the "best ideas and leverage them," without having to design around "legacy components that maybe weren't the most reliable, or were particularly expensive."

On its face, this is a throwaway comment.  It seems it was intended to be a dig at Boeing.  And it seems it's a dig because Boeing is winning. 
Winning at what exactly? I’m not implying their losing either, but what are they winning at?
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There are no constraints within Boeing to build or design based on "this" or because supplier X has to be included for "that". 
SLS is absolutely required to use shuttle legacy bits and suppliers in its design and operation. That’s the whole point of the program.

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Relative to her comment, there is rationale on learning from the past.  What has worked, what hasn't and correcting that.  This statement, on its face, implies they are better without having that.  And that is false.
It says the exact opposite of what you’re implying it says. It says specifically that they are free to look at what has been used in the past, take the best stuff that works well, and forge new ground elsewhere. How’s is that not exactly what you’d want them to be doing?

1.  CST-100 will be first to ISS

2.  SLS is not the definition of Boeing. 

3.  Ok, I'll give you that.  But that said, am I to assume because she said it, that this is a new thought process unique to only SpaceX?
Others already replied to 1 and 2. In the case of 1, I’ll also add that it would have been reasonable to assume Boeing would get there first at the beginning of the commercial crew program given their existing knowledge base and experience. That they are no further ahead than they are (and it is very debatable that they are in fact ahead), says something about SpaceX’s ability to develop a crewed vehicle.

On point 3, I don’t think that design philosophy is unique to SpaceX and they certainly didn’t invent it. However, it is pretty common practice for legacy companies to continue holding on to legacy technology rather break with it and forge new directions. Certainly some legacy companies have done it, but it is usually the newcomer that disrupts by forging new ground. I’m also didn’t take her comment as much as a slight against legacy rocket companies and NASA and more just an observation that the freedom to make a clean sheet design has been part of their success.

Edit: typo
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« Reply #152 on: 04/12/2018 02:43 am »
3.  Ok, I'll give you that.  But that said, am I to assume because she said it, that this is a new thought process unique to only SpaceX?

She didn't say it was unique to SpaceX, just part of what makes them successful at reaching their particular goals. Boeing and many other aerospace companies certainly subscribe to the theory of "heritage über alles" to a far greater extent than SpaceX does - which is fine for some goals. Less so for others.

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« Reply #153 on: 04/12/2018 03:47 am »
3.  Ok, I'll give you that.  But that said, am I to assume because she said it, that this is a new thought process unique to only SpaceX?

She didn't say it was unique to SpaceX, just part of what makes them successful at reaching their particular goals. Boeing and many other aerospace companies certainly subscribe to the theory of "heritage über alles" to a far greater extent than SpaceX does - which is fine for some goals. Less so for others.

It's not just in aerospace, any old company has this issue to deal with. The engineering department I work in spends about 35% of our time maintaining legacy code and hardware.
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« Reply #154 on: 04/12/2018 04:15 am »
Take this to the appropriate discussion thread, and leave this thread for us to flag upcoming talks, please.
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« Reply #155 on: 04/12/2018 06:26 am »
Also, Shotwell talked about Earth P2P within that decade.

Wired....

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The rockets would take off from launch pads on bodies of water outside of major cities, and Shotwell noted that the longest time spent traveling would be on the boat ride. SpaceX aims to introduce this service within a decade.

The moderator expressed skepticism on such an ambitious timeline. Shotwell did not waver in her response. “That’s my time, not Elon time.”

Emphasis mine.

It would be good for the readers here to note that Gwynne's prior time-line predictions have been just a tad less unrealistic than Elon's. But generally unrealistic still.

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« Reply #156 on: 04/12/2018 01:27 pm »
Different emphasis in this report on Gwynne's talk:

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At the 2018 TED Conference on Wednesday, SpaceX president Gwynne Shotwell seemed for the first time to express an even grander vision than Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars.

Speaking to the crowd, Shotwell said she won't be content to land a SpaceX rocket on Mars, or even to reach more distant planets like Saturn or Pluto. Instead, she revealed that she ultimately hopes to meet up with whoever's out there in other solar systems.

"This is the first time I might out-vision Elon," she said of the SpaceX founder.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-gwynne-shotwell-ted-mars-is-a-fixer-upper-2018-4

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« Reply #157 on: 04/12/2018 01:37 pm »
A phone-shot video of part of the new Mars BFR animation:

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The first human travel to Mars previewed by Gwynne from @SpaceX at #TED2018

https://twitter.com/parmeshs/status/984154967907844096
« Last Edit: 04/12/2018 01:40 pm by FutureSpaceTourist »

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« Reply #158 on: 04/12/2018 02:13 pm »
Different emphasis in this report on Gwynne's talk:

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At the 2018 TED Conference on Wednesday, SpaceX president Gwynne Shotwell seemed for the first time to express an even grander vision than Elon Musk's plan to colonize Mars.

Speaking to the crowd, Shotwell said she won't be content to land a SpaceX rocket on Mars, or even to reach more distant planets like Saturn or Pluto. Instead, she revealed that she ultimately hopes to meet up with whoever's out there in other solar systems.

"This is the first time I might out-vision Elon," she said of the SpaceX founder.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/spacex-president-gwynne-shotwell-ted-mars-is-a-fixer-upper-2018-4

Gwynne has in past talks mentioned her dreams of a future where travel to other solar systems is possible. 
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« Reply #159 on: 04/12/2018 04:33 pm »
A phone-shot video of part of the new Mars BFR animation:

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The first human travel to Mars previewed by Gwynne from @SpaceX at #TED2018

https://twitter.com/parmeshs/status/984154967907844096

Me want that video full and HD please. I hope Spacex release it.

The refueling is different than the previous one on ITS.

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