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Offline TrevorMonty

Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #160 on: 12/20/2017 03:09 PM »
Moon Express are considering lunar orbital mission first, depends on Electron performance and customer payloads.

There are some pluses to orbital mission even if it isn't as exciting. Will prove MX E1 endurance, which is critical for Mars moons or Asteriod missions. Mars moons are definitely in MX 2 capabilities but will need LauncherOne. At estimated $20m for lander and launch, its cheap ride to Phobos or Deimos for NASA.

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #161 on: 01/29/2018 08:19 PM »
A lawsuit backfired badly for moon express:
http://spacenews.com/jury-awards-intuitive-machines-4-1-million-in-cash-and-moon-express-equity/

This looks bad even not taking the financial implications into account. Apparently they ordered the return vehicle and software from intuitive machines, but one has to wonder what the status of the hard and sofware is after all the fighting, apparently IM stopped work at some point as ME failed to pay. They might not need all of this for the upcoming missions, but I would not expect ME to launch anything soon..
« Last Edit: 01/29/2018 09:08 PM by Oumuamua »

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #162 on: 01/29/2018 09:40 PM »
Looks like part of the compensation in the deal was equity, possibly a debt/equity conversion deal.

In finding for the defendant in the counterclaim against the plaintiff in the original suit, jury likely decided the merits included all that the contract was due as damages award, thus the peculiar award. Also, this kind of situation isn't one likely to go well on appeal.

We don't know in these reports the scope of assistance to the plaintiff, so we don't know the extent of injury to its mission(s).

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #163 on: 01/29/2018 11:10 PM »
Although Moon Express had its own flight software NASA is now providing the Core Flight System software. See Article 9H3d of the Space Act Agreement.
See the SAA
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/lunar-catalyst-saa-amendment-moon-express-28sep2017.pdf

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #164 on: 01/31/2018 05:32 AM »
A lawsuit backfired badly for moon express:

http://spacenews.com/jury-awards-intuitive-machines-4-1-million-in-cash-and-moon-express-equity/

This looks bad even not taking the financial implications into account. Apparently they ordered the return vehicle and software from intuitive machines, but one has to wonder what the status of the hard and sofware is after all the fighting, apparently IM stopped work at some point as ME failed to pay. They might not need all of this for the upcoming missions, but I would not expect ME to launch anything soon..

Not sure what else people expect from someone with the track record of Naveen Jain:-

https://techcrunch.com/2008/05/29/naveen-jains-intelius-prepares-to-go-public-how-much-of-their-revenue-is-a-scam/

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/dot-con-job-how-infospace-took-its-investors-for-a-ride/
« Last Edit: 01/31/2018 05:40 AM by ringsider »

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #165 on: 03/29/2018 01:06 AM »
Tweet from Moon Express:
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We have a multi-launch contract with Rocket Lab for the MX-1 with maiden flight likely in 2019. MX-2, 5 & 9 are designed for larger launch systems.
« Last Edit: 03/29/2018 01:07 AM by gongora »

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #166 on: 03/29/2018 07:41 AM »
Tweet from Moon Express:
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We have a multi-launch contract with Rocket Lab for the MX-1 with maiden flight likely in 2019. MX-2, 5 & 9 are designed for larger launch systems.
That sounds promising, but how firm is it?
« Last Edit: 03/29/2018 04:54 PM by john smith 19 »
BFS. The worlds first Methane fueled FFORSC engined CFRP structured A380 sized aerospaceplane tail sitter capable of flying in Earth and Mars atmospheres. BFR. The worlds biggest Methane fueled FFORSC engined CFRP structured booster for BFS. First flight to Mars by end of 2022. Forward looking statements. T&C apply. Believe no one. Run your own numbers. So, you are going to Mars to start a better life? Picture it in your mind. Now say what it is out loud.

Offline TrevorMonty

Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #167 on: 03/29/2018 09:01 AM »
The maiden flight is going to put MX1in lunar orbit. Probably deliver some cubesats  in the process. 2nd flight will be a landing if all goes well. May need extra boost of LauncherOne to deliver a decent payload.


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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #168 on: 06/28/2018 08:46 PM »
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Ben Roberts, Moon Express: our first mission should be late next year; depends on customers and launch providers. #NewSpace2018

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1012397758001635329

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Roberts: see NASA as an anchor tenant for our landers, but donít think it will be hard to find others if we get costs low enough. #NewSpace2018

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1012398386862051329

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Roberts: weíll likely use the Electron launches under contract for orbital missions versus lunar landers. Thatís based on NASAís desire to maximize landed mass for its Commercial Lunar Payload Services program. #NewSpace2018

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1012408772764028928

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Roberts: regarding spectrum, will ask FCC to consider proposed smallsat licensing process for lunar missions as well. #NewSpace2018

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1012409208095035392
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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #169 on: 06/28/2018 09:06 PM »
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Ben Roberts, Moon Express: our first mission should be late next year; depends on customers and launch providers. #NewSpace2018

This would make a good vision statement for MoonEx: "should be late next year"

Offline TrevorMonty

Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #170 on: 06/29/2018 07:21 PM »
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Ben Roberts, Moon Express: our first mission should be late next year; depends on customers and launch providers. #NewSpace2018

This would make a good vision statement for MoonEx: "should be late next year"
To be fair this statement could apply to most companies working on leading aerospace projects.
« Last Edit: 06/29/2018 07:22 PM by TrevorMonty »

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #171 on: 08/05/2018 02:53 AM »
Not looking good for Moon Express:
According to this employee @MoonEx is down to 2 engineers, and is not paying employees, vendors, or the water bill. https://t.co/9oF4P1HLR1 Didn't the state of Florida just send them $1.5 mil? Have they paid off the IM lawsuit yet?

https://twitter.com/JoeSolarsystem/status/1025506710700605440?s=19

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #172 on: 08/05/2018 04:50 AM »
It was co-founded by Naveen Jain. Hard to think of a bigger red flag than that.

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Re: Moon Express MX-1
« Reply #173 on: 08/05/2018 09:14 AM »

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