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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2900 on: 11/22/2023 05:56 pm »
This is the first time we have seen an interstage forward module with its fins installed and apparently in motion or having been moved. We can also see a 1st stage LNG/LOX mid-body assembly. Overall, everything seems ready for final assembly of all major elements: mid module, aft fuselage, and forward interstage module.

I hope that they have at least pathfinder engines at the cape

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2901 on: 11/27/2023 05:54 pm »
https://twitter.com/_mgde_/status/1729211846962618677

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***B R E A K I N G***

Potential New Glenn first stage flight hardware spotted outside at @blueorigin’s campus near the Kennedy Space Center.

This looks to be the LNG/LOx tank section of the first stage - now sporting a much anticipated livery.

📸 - @NASASpaceflight

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twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1729212310168682707

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For reference, this is what Blue calls the "First Stage Mid Module" on its Payload Users Guide (although this guide it's a bit old, maybe it's called differently now?)
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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2902 on: 11/27/2023 06:30 pm »
Our earlier speculation about the qualification tank attach points for the strake fins is correct.

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2903 on: 11/27/2023 06:52 pm »
And for things like this is why we need cameras pointed at the factory campus, not just at LC-36!

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2904 on: 11/28/2023 01:13 am »
Quick mockup using the render on the BlueOrigin website.

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2905 on: 11/28/2023 09:31 am »
Sweet!
A bonefide tank section for a reusable 7 m booster.  A good day.

Is there any recent info on engine availability?
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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2906 on: 11/28/2023 10:40 am »
Sweet!
A bonefide tank section for a reusable 7 m booster.  A good day.

Is there any recent info on engine availability?

Except that before this, we already knew that several of these existed, just without pretty paint:

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2907 on: 11/28/2023 10:49 am »
Sweet!
A bonefide tank section for a reusable 7 m booster.  A good day.

Is there any recent info on engine availability?

Except that before this, we already knew that several of these existed, just without pretty paint:
Yeah but this is a flight tank, at least according to the poster.  "Almost flight" doesn't count. As you say yourself, various "almost" articles in various states of completion existed for a long while now.

I'm more buoyed by this piece, since the tank is arguably much more difficult than the other modules. I doubt they'll paint it like this unless it was ready for assembly.

Since you're following - where do the engines stand?
« Last Edit: 11/28/2023 10:52 am by meekGee »
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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2908 on: 11/28/2023 11:42 am »
Sweet!
A bonefide tank section for a reusable 7 m booster.  A good day.

Is there any recent info on engine availability?

Except that before this, we already knew that several of these existed, just without pretty paint:
Alternatively: we had several pictures of this tank, prior to painting. To conclude there are more tanks would need photos with multiple tanks in the same shot.

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2909 on: 11/28/2023 05:22 pm »
Sweet!
A bonefide tank section for a reusable 7 m booster.  A good day.

Is there any recent info on engine availability?

Except that before this, we already knew that several of these existed, just without pretty paint:
Alternatively: we had several pictures of this tank, prior to painting. To conclude there are more tanks would need photos with multiple tanks in the same shot.

Possible, but you are forgetting that the Lex Fridman tweet was just 6 days ago. Are you suggesting that the one that was rolling back to the main building is the very same one photographed in his visit?
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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2910 on: 11/30/2023 05:02 pm »

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2911 on: 11/30/2023 07:54 pm »
Many great views from the flyover team, here is just some of the highlights:

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2912 on: 11/30/2023 07:57 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1730329830661476620

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Here comes New Glenn! Blue Origin getting closer to the maiden flight of its orbital rocket.

Harry Stranger (@Harry__Stranger) with the overview.

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/11/new-glenn-milestones/

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2913 on: 12/01/2023 02:18 pm »
https://twitter.com/julia_bergeron/status/1730597942736621968
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There were boosters all over the place on our last @NASASpaceflight
 Cape flyover. Join us on Youtube for our latest adventure.



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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2914 on: 12/01/2023 04:57 pm »
Is the New Glenn launch tower complete at LC-36? I don't see any pipes, swing arms, or elevator for ground crew access.

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2915 on: 12/01/2023 09:05 pm »
It is, for now. That tower's only reason for being right now is to be a lightning mast, it does not provide any services, such as propellant or conditioning, never mind astronaut or ground crew access. All current services for New Glenn will be through the TE.

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2916 on: 12/02/2023 01:33 am »
Excuse my poor understand, but how does the upper stage get fueled?

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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2917 on: 12/02/2023 02:07 am »
Excuse my poor understand, but how does the upper stage get fuelled?

If there's no umbilical arm for the second stage and the stages use the same propellant, propellant will be from the first stage, through some pipes in the interstage to the second stage. However, the second stage uses LH2 while the first stage uses LCH4, so I doubt that LH2 will be piped through the first stage to the second stage. A heavily insulated pipe would be required for LH2 due to the -253 C boiling point of LH2. Thus, I believe there will be an umbilical arm for the second stage, that will provide LH2 and LO2 to the stage.
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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2918 on: 12/02/2023 02:30 am »
Excuse my poor understand, but how does the upper stage get fuelled?

If there's no umbilical arm for the second stage and the stages use the same propellant, propellant will be from the first stage, through some pipes in the interstage to the second stage. However, the second stage uses LH2 while the first stage uses LCH4, so I doubt that LH2 will be piped through the first stage to the second stage. A heavily insulated pipe would be required for LH2 due to the -253 C boiling point of LH2. Thus, I believe there will be an umbilical arm for the second stage, that will provide LH2 and LO2 to the stage.

Yes, Steven, and to add, the tower erected at their pad lacks any Umbilical arms and tower plumbing so we don't understand yet where those QD fuel lines may end up.
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Re: New Glenn: Blue Origin Announcement of Orbital Rocket Plan
« Reply #2919 on: 12/02/2023 03:29 am »
https://twitter.com/talkotitusville/status/1730729441934881180

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Last night, @blueorigin took their first, as far as I know, New Glenn fairings on a ride
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