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Offline gongora

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I doubt Starlink gets moved out of the SpaceX section.  The Commecial Spaceflight section has grown to the point where a launch/spacecraft split might be in order.

Offline StevenOBrien

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If there is some sort of warning added before posting, maybe also putting something like "Please make sure the update you're posting hasn't already been posted previously by someone else" would be useful too.

Offline Asteroza

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I doubt Starlink gets moved out of the SpaceX section.  The Commercial Spaceflight section has grown to the point where a launch/spacecraft split might be in order.

What about moving Starlink into a distinct subsection of the Spacex grouping then?

Offline the_other_Doug

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A reminder/warning would be useful.  I know that, in my case, if I'm following a launch and I notice something I want to comment on, I'm usually keeping the updates thread open.  It's natural to just hit REPLY and make my comment.  I'm not intending on diluting the update thread, I'm just eager to share my observation.

It would save me time, in these cases, if the reminder that I'm about to post in an update thread came as the post form was loaded, before I start typing, not when I try to save my post.  Otherwise, it becomes more challenging to think through copying the text I just typed and pasting it into a comment in the correct discussion thread.  And, of course, if I'm gonna post my observation, I ought to see if it's been made already in the discussion thread, and if I should add my own take on it, respond to existing comments rather than typing up a "Hey, did y'all see that?" post when it's the 17th post on the event, that kind of thing... ;)

That's my $0.02, anyway.  FWIW.
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Also, let's remember, that during launches or EVAs or test events, or other breaking news, the update threads are getting lots of time critical posts from the people providing coverage (TY all!). So don't do anything that makes their jobs harder or slows them down.
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Offline su27k

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I just have two well written comments deleted without warning, I can only guess that the reason they were deleted is because I'm posting something related to SpaceX in a non-SpaceX thread. If that is the case, please make sure:
1. This forum rule is communicated to everyone
2. Actually enforce this rule in a unbiased manner, for example this comment is a SpaceX related comment (basically defending someone's (unfair) criticism regarding SpaceX) in a OneWeb thread, yet this comment is not deleted, but my reply to it is deleted. You can't just allow criticism against SpaceX in a non-SpaceX thread while at the same time deleting any attempt to refute the criticism, that's censorship.

Offline deadman1204

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Hey, couple questions about NSF and images.

1. This site has some amazing photographers who contribute both to stories, and simply posting additional images in the forums. The photos with a NSF tag - are these purchased or donated?
    a. I'm curious if I should consider trying to support the photographers if they are simply dedicated fans and community supporters

2. What sort of licensing does NSF use for its photos?
    a. I'm thinking about commercial use, but generally curious about use options. Like taking a photo on the site for personal use.


Thanks

Offline jebbo

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This is probably a bit premature, but now the Tianhe module has launched, has cre and they are doing construction EVAs, should the International Space Station top level section become "Space Stations" with ISS and Tiangong as sub-sections?

If not now, then perhaps once it has a permanent crew post-Shenzhou 15?

--- Tony

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This is probably a bit premature, but now the Tianhe module has launched, has cre and they are doing construction EVAs, should the International Space Station top level section become "Space Stations" with ISS and Tiangong as sub-sections?

If not now, then perhaps once it has a permanent crew post-Shenzhou 15?

--- Tony
I do think the proper moment would be after having the permanent crew. Doing it before that could be a little bit risky.

Offline rocketmaniac000

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Hey, couple questions about NSF and images.

1. This site has some amazing photographers who contribute both to stories, and simply posting additional images in the forums. The photos with a NSF tag - are these purchased or donated?
    a. I'm curious if I should consider trying to support the photographers if they are simply dedicated fans and community supporters

2. What sort of licensing does NSF use for its photos?
    a. I'm thinking about commercial use, but generally curious about use options. Like taking a photo on the site for personal use.


Thanks
About the first question, I think that the photos are actually donated.

Offline Hamish.Student

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Hi all,

These concerns have been voiced over in the Starship Prototype thread and were (rightfully) removed, I apologise to the mods for my off-topicness in this. 
 
Twitter has recently begun bringing in changes (via A/B testing so it only affects some users at any one time) that greatly reduce the ability of the public to use their website, without logging in. These changes include, but are not limited too: Blocking the viewing of photos in tweets, Blocking the ability to scroll public profiles, as well as just general crapiness on their servers such as pages not loading or pages loading slowly. 
 
Additionally there is a segment of the user base here who cannot access twitter at all, be it through internet filtering by Govt or Employers.

Then there's the issue of the twitter embeds in the updates thread slowly things down to a crawl until they spring into existence. I don't have data caps, but some people do! 
 
Now, I'm not sure what the best solution would be. I previously mentioned banning twitter, that's probably too much. Maybe a switch to control the embeds? Maybe if we could rehost the images here, which would also preserve them for posterity. Twitter may not be around forever. This would help with the twitter.com issues, as well as bandwidth and filtering. 
 
This is becoming more of an issue now with the changes Twitter are implementing, and the fact that for some reason it seems that the majority of updates are just twitter links these days, other than Mary's posts. It didn't use to be this way even 6 months to a year ago.     
 
Id like to hear everyone's thoughts on this. 
 
Thankyou
« Last Edit: 08/30/2021 05:22 am by Hamish.Student »

Offline raivo45

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There are some answers to this topic in this this thread: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36636.0


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I've been running into the blocked access without being logged in constantly and it's really annoying. I already have to wait ages for the forum page to load up all the twitter embeds on that particular forum page and then I can't even access the original tweet if I want to look at original high res images etc.

Offline Star One

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There are some answers to this topic in this this thread: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36636.0
These are very recent changes on Twitter’s end of things. I don’t see them noted in that thread?

Offline Hamish.Student

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There are some answers to this topic in this this thread: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36636.0
These are very recent changes on Twitter’s end of things. I don’t see them noted in that thread?
 
 
The last post there was on: 11/29/2018; That thread is so outdated as to not be relevant now. 
Especially given the recent issues.

Offline capoman

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Definitely an issue, and I'm also one that gets blocked from Twitter on certain computers. Elon is an example of someone who will likely not join the forum to put in posts. I really don't know that there is a good solution to this. In Elon's case, he can be quoted, but sometimes he does post interesting photos of Boca Chica and such, that are very useful.

Offline Mark S

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Someone posted a question in one of the update/photo threads this weekend why he couldn't see any pictures. I gave a quick reply that they were Twitter links and would fill in asynchronously. Both posts got deleted, but hopefully the OP saw the reply before that happened.

Some people really don't understand why this happens, and I think the slow photo backfill and/or non-visibility reflects poorly on NSF. It also makes the page jump around while you are trying to read or look closely at something in the thread.

Thanks.
« Last Edit: 08/30/2021 01:36 pm by Mark S »

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Screenshots of tweets & embedding them seems the best route to go, IMHO.
KSC Engineer, astronomer, rocket photographer.

Offline Hamish.Student

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Screenshots of tweets & embedding them seems the best route to go, IMHO.
 
 
I'd tend to agree, however then we lose the high res version. But I guess we've lost that anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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FWIW,  I've noticed that clearing your cache/cookies for the twitter site will reset the annoying pop ups.

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