There has been quite a lot of previous discussion on this thread that say robotic vessels, whether telerobotic or autonmous, for ships on the seas moving from Port A to Location B to Port C are not possible.I just tended to believe all the more marine-experienced commentators, figuring they knew more than me.So was quite surprised to see this today: Sea Hunter USV Reaches New Autonomy Milestone, where a ship sailed from San Diego to Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, and back with no humans on board. Does this have implications for the so-called "autonomous" droneships that SpaceX has advanced? or for their next-generation launch mount for their next-gen rocket?
There has been quite a lot of previous discussion on this thread that say robotic vessels, whether telerobotic or autonmous, for ships on the seas moving from Port A to Location B to Port C are not possible.
For Blue Origin there are regulations now around landing helicopters aboard vessels at sea that could possibly be modified to allow it to be crewed whilst rockets boosters are landing, should they want to go down that route.
Quote from: CameronD on 02/05/2019 04:25 am For Blue Origin there are regulations now around landing helicopters aboard vessels at sea that could possibly be modified to allow it to be crewed whilst rockets boosters are landing, should they want to go down that route. to be uncrewed I think you mean?
SpaceX can do what they do because their drone ship is uncrewed and stationary.It sounds like you are saying that any future ship that wants to move, whoever it may belong to MIGHT have an issue then? Because ships have to be crewed to move, but apparently have to be safed (to the point of crew having nowhere to go?) for landings that are analogous to helicopter operations. ... ?
Fully autonomous surface ships exist: (US Navy anti sub hunter)https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/us-navys-anti-submarine-drone-ship-sailed-autonomously-from-san-diego-to-hawaii-and-back/
Quote from: Jcc on 02/07/2019 11:38 pmFully autonomous surface ships exist: (US Navy anti sub hunter)https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/us-navys-anti-submarine-drone-ship-sailed-autonomously-from-san-diego-to-hawaii-and-back/As we discussed, these are not subject to civilian maritime regs. Supposedly any civilian ship under way (not just station keeping) has to be manned. Blue says they want to not be manned. CameronD (I think) is arguing that Blue (or SpaceX in future if they wanted to use moving vessels) CAN be manned and safe. Sorry I dragged us in the weeds a bit.
Quote from: Lar on 02/08/2019 12:27 amQuote from: Jcc on 02/07/2019 11:38 pmFully autonomous surface ships exist: (US Navy anti sub hunter)https://thediplomat.com/2019/02/us-navys-anti-submarine-drone-ship-sailed-autonomously-from-san-diego-to-hawaii-and-back/As we discussed, these are not subject to civilian maritime regs. Supposedly any civilian ship under way (not just station keeping) has to be manned. Blue says they want to not be manned. CameronD (I think) is arguing that Blue (or SpaceX in future if they wanted to use moving vessels) CAN be manned and safe. Sorry I dragged us in the weeds a bit.Sea Launch's (nka S7 Space) Odyssey is required by governing agencies to be unmanned before, during and after launch operations and they have experienced a failed launch which heavily damaged the floating platform and required emergency dewatering to keep afloat. Deepwater horizon disaster is what Odessey could have suffered with crew onboard during the failure.
Let's I guess leave this at that until posters beat the dead horse again several pages down from now.
That's always a great sight to see: the SpaceX logo on the landing zones or the drone ship decks getting repainted.
Quote from: ZachS09 on 04/28/2019 03:16 amThat's always a great sight to see: the SpaceX logo on the landing zones or the drone ship decks getting repainted.Actaully, I'm looking forward to the day they are using it so often they never get time to repaint the deck.
Quote from: CameronD on 04/28/2019 11:45 pmQuote from: ZachS09 on 04/28/2019 03:16 amThat's always a great sight to see: the SpaceX logo on the landing zones or the drone ship decks getting repainted.Actaully, I'm looking forward to the day they are using it so often they never get time to repaint the deck. I'm not, because that level of Falcon launch traffic means Starship wasn't successful.
Yeah, I think there is a reasonable window in here where F9 can really prove its worth as a workhorse launcher while Starlink cuts through teething issues, that isn't proof of Starship failing.
Ummm... An ASDS issue plays a large role in a launch scrub, and it's not even mentioned on the ASDS thread? Y'all are slipping. Seriously though, has anyone seen any news on what happened to OCISLY that caused the problem?