Author Topic: Experimental spaceplane (F2) - CZ-2F/T - JSLC LC43/91 - 4 Aug 2022 ~16:00 UTC (Read 20144 times)

Satori · « **on:** 03/29/2021 02:48 pm »

According to a post on the 9ifly Chinese space forum, China is preparing for what looks to be the second flight of the (of a) Experimental Spaceplane.

Launch probably on the second half of 2021.

Launch thread for the first flight of "CSSHQ," September 4, 2020:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=50274.0

luritie · « **Reply #1 on:** 08/02/2022 11:02 am »

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1554421797978017794

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #2 on:** 08/02/2022 03:01 pm »

A2112/22 NOTAMN Q) ZLHW/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3847N10732E022 A) ZLHW B) 2208041552 C) 2208041740 E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N3829E10749-N3850E10800-N3904E10714-N3843E10704 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. F) SFC G) UNL A2113/22 NOTAMN Q) ZLHW/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3837N10758E016 A) ZLHW B) 2208041552 C) 2208041740 E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N3824E10810-N3840E10818-N3850E10746-N3834E10738 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. F) SFC G) UNL A2114/22 NOTAMN Q) ZLHW/QRDCA/IV/BO/W/000/999/3750N10945E016 A) ZLHW B) 2208041553 C) 2208041747 E) A TEMPORARY DANGER AREA ESTABLISHED BOUNDED BY: N3737E10957-N3752E11005-N3803E10934-N3747E10924 BACK TO START. VERTICAL LIMITS:SFC-UNL. F) SFC G) UNL

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #3 on:** 08/02/2022 06:25 pm »

August 4 UTC (orbital) Launchapalooza!

Goumang and two other satellites, CZ-4B, Taiyuan, 03:08
Successful

NROL-199, Electron, Mahia Peninsula, 05:00
Successful

SBIRS-GEO 6, Atlas V 421, Cape Canaveral, 10:29
Successful

Experimental spaceplane, CZ-2F/T4, Jiuquan, ~16:00
Successful

Danuri a.k.a KPLO, Falcon 9, Cape Canaveral, 23:08
Successful

And suborbital

NS-22 crewed flight, New Shepherd, Corn Ranch TX, 13:56
Successful

Vahe231991 · « **Reply #4 on:** 08/03/2022 01:17 am »

Quote from: luritie on 08/02/2022 11:02 am

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1554421797978017794

The CSSHQ in the tweet resembles the X-37B in appearance except in having a single upright vertical stabilizer. The question is whether Chinese hackers stole the technological secrets for the X-37B to assist the Chinese aerospace industry in building the CSSHQ.

Since Chinese officials told the Xinhua new agency in March 2020 that the Chinese reusable spaceplane is intended to carry a crew of six, it is unclear whether the CSSHQ is meant to test technologies for an SSTO spaceplane comparable to the NASP but with a wide variety of civil and military missions.

tehwkd · « **Reply #5 on:** 08/03/2022 08:23 am »

F1 & F2 match well enough but why would it have a 2h window?

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #6 on:** 08/04/2022 01:39 am »

A2131/22 NOTAMN Q) ZLHW/QARLC/IV/NBO/E/000/999/ A) ZLHW B) 2208041550 C) 2208041750 E) FLW SEGMENT OF ATS RTE CLSD: 1.W220 : NIRUV - AVNOT. 2.W217 : GOTBO - UPKUN.

This air route closure NE of Yinchuan seems to be also related as well.

Steven Pietrobon · « **Reply #7 on:** 08/04/2022 05:35 am »

Here's the image from the tweet.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #8 on:** 08/04/2022 06:35 am »

twitter.com/dutchspace/status/1555079359014354944

Quote

Right, with the possible launch of the Chinese reusable spacecraft planned for today, it seems some "objects" have appeared next to the runway at Lop Nur on the Sentinel satellite image of yesterday...

Edit to add:

https://twitter.com/dutchspace/status/1555081025394556928

Quote

added for clarity

mikezang · « **Reply #9 on:** 08/04/2022 07:31 am »

What does the T4 of CZ-2F/T4 mean?

Steven Pietrobon · « **Reply #10 on:** 08/04/2022 09:00 am »

Quote from: mikezang on 08/04/2022 07:31 am

What does the T4 of CZ-2F/T4 mean?

CZ-2F/T is the vehicle name. 2F-T4 is the vehicle serial number.

https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_lau_det/cz-2ft.htm

Rondaz · « **Reply #11 on:** 08/04/2022 09:40 am »

Orbital Launch no. 96 of 2022

CSSHQ F2 | CASC | August 04 | 1230 ET

China's #CASC to launch its experimental space plane #CSSHQ (Chongfu Shiyong Shiyan Hangtian Qi) on its 2nd trip to space, on top of #LongMarch 2F/T from #Jiuquan SLC.

https://twitter.com/SpaceIntellige3/status/1555112060874268674

Satori · « **Reply #12 on:** 08/04/2022 04:06 pm »

So, standing by for some news from Jiuquan...

Satori · « **Reply #13 on:** 08/04/2022 05:34 pm »

Nothing yet on official media or in the Chinese space program observers... still waiting...

Satori · « **Reply #14 on:** 08/04/2022 05:35 pm »

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1555197256365899776

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #15 on:** 08/04/2022 05:59 pm »

An additional thought:

I'm sure several "foreign" intelligence agencies have or will have information, perhaps detailed information, about this campaign.

However, as publicizing some or any of that information could expose means and methods of that intelligence gathering, we may learn little or nothing from them.

We shall see.

ace5 · « **Reply #16 on:** 08/04/2022 06:59 pm »

The spaceplane's shape is my interpretation from some Chinese sources.

Satori · « **Reply #17 on:** 08/04/2022 07:18 pm »

And launch confirmation...

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1555271368844881920

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #18 on:** 08/04/2022 07:35 pm »

Note that the official statement was very similar to the one issued in Sep. 2020, e.g. “a reusable test S/C”, “will return to landing site inside China”, “reuse & on-orbit tech validation”, “to provide technical support for peaceful use of space” etc. Only the “This is the 18th launch of the Long March 2F” part is different.

I see that USSF’s 18th SDS hasn’t found it yet - they will be the one to give data like even approximate T-0 (this was not officially given).

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4798934479012288

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #19 on:** 08/04/2022 09:28 pm »

USSF 18th SDS has 2 objects from this launch.

2022-093A/53357 & 2022-093B/53358:

Both at 346 x 593 km x 49.99 deg. orbit.