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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #421 on: 05/01/2014 02:16 am »
Local news story on Bigelow & Boeing
http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/positively-lv/In-North-Las-Vegas-a-sneak-peek-at-the-future-of-space-travel--257427871.html

"That's why companies like Boeing are designing the CST-100 Spacecraft that can fit up to nine passengers and a pilot." That's not right...?
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #422 on: 05/01/2014 04:17 am »
That's not right...?

That is right, sort of. Boeing is still designing CST-100 to fly four or five crew members for NASA missions, but for future commercial flights, their new commercial interior design can seat upwards of nine passengers and one pilot (but with no, or very limited, cargo).

Bigelow can accommodate six crew members per BA-330 habitat. The company is planning to have two habs ready to fly in late 2016.

Ultimately, the number of crew members will depend on the needs of the customers for both companies.

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #423 on: 05/01/2014 05:47 am »
9 passengers + pilot makes sense for 3-6hr trip with few orbits of earth.   

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #424 on: 05/01/2014 08:04 am »
Wow. Thanks. Was not aware CST-100 could potentially take 10 to orbit!
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #425 on: 05/01/2014 08:23 am »
That's not right...?

That is right, sort of. Boeing is still designing CST-100 to fly four or five crew members for NASA missions, but for future commercial flights, their new commercial interior design can seat upwards of nine passengers and one pilot (but with no, or very limited, cargo).

Bigelow can accommodate six crew members per BA-330 habitat. The company is planning to have two habs ready to fly in late 2016.

Ultimately, the number of crew members will depend on the needs of the customers for both companies.
Can you link me to a source. Because I have no-idea how ten people could fit in the CST-100.
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #426 on: 05/01/2014 08:46 am »
Can you link me to a source. Because I have no-idea how ten people could fit in the CST-100.

It's no problem, as long as 8 of those people are five years old or under.  It's great for first grade field trips to space.

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #427 on: 05/01/2014 03:10 pm »
Can you link me to a source.

Boeing and Bigelow held a press briefing in Las Vegas yesterday where they showed off the new design (and the BA-330). I was there. Article forthcoming on Space.com.

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #428 on: 05/01/2014 05:59 pm »
Aerospace writer, Jeff Foust, has some drool-worthy photos on his twitter feed from April 30 of the BA-330 and the CST-100 interiors from Vegas: https://twitter.com/jeff_foust

The CST-100 photo in particular showcases a 7-person layout that has the Boeing "dreamliner" treatment.

The second photo is of the BA-330 interior as a panorama.  Mr. Foust took this shot, Boeing provided the first one. (and yes, I know it's posted on some of the other threads, but not everyoen sees every thread).

First class indeed!  Until the capsule pressure is lowered, and everyone gets gas in that little room.....



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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #429 on: 05/01/2014 06:17 pm »
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Bigelow can accommodate six crew members per BA-330 habitat. The company is planning to have two habs ready to fly in late 2016.

That would give a launch date in 2 to 3 years time.  The launches should be manifested soon, depending on sales and how long the prototype BA-330 needs ground testing.

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #430 on: 05/01/2014 08:34 pm »
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Bigelow can accommodate six crew members per BA-330 habitat. The company is planning to have two habs ready to fly in late 2016.

That would give a launch date in 2 to 3 years time.  The launches should be manifested soon, depending on sales and how long the prototype BA-330 needs ground testing.

From SpaceX manifest:

2015    Bigelow Aerospace    Cape Canaveral    Falcon 9

Of course BA-330 is supposedly 20 tons, so beyond capabilities of Falcon 9. Anyone know what they're launching on this one? I thought it was going to be Sundancer (8.5 tons), but that was cancelled...

BA-330... Atlas V?


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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #431 on: 05/01/2014 08:45 pm »
2015    Bigelow Aerospace    Cape Canaveral    Falcon 9

That is BEAM, the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module, to be installed on ISS for two years and launching on SpX-8 in July 2015.


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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #432 on: 05/01/2014 09:15 pm »
2015    Bigelow Aerospace    Cape Canaveral    Falcon 9

That is BEAM, the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module, to be installed on ISS for two years and launching on SpX-8 in July 2015.
Nope, BEAM will hitch a ride on a Dragon. That Bigelow launch was originally intended for a Sundancer, but that's obviously not going to happen. If I recall correctly, the launch was just never taken off the manifest because Bigelow still intends to launch with SpaceX at some point in time.

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #433 on: 05/01/2014 09:40 pm »
If I recall correctly, the launch was just never taken off the manifest because Bigelow still intends to launch with SpaceX at some point in time.

What and when??? BA330 cannot is too heavy to be launched on a Falcon 9. This really isn't making sense to me...
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #434 on: 05/01/2014 09:43 pm »
Actually 2015 from Florida makes a lot of sense if you are talking about the FH.
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #435 on: 05/01/2014 09:44 pm »
{snip}
Bigelow can accommodate six crew members per BA-330 habitat. The company is planning to have two habs ready to fly in late 2016.

That would give a launch date in 2 to 3 years time.  The launches should be manifested soon, depending on sales and how long the prototype BA-330 needs ground testing.

Unfortunately, Bigelow's operational station has been launching in 2-3 years time for the last decade.  I'm eager to see them launch, but its hard to keep up the optimism while watching the schedule move right by one year every year.

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #436 on: 05/01/2014 10:13 pm »
Nope, BEAM will hitch a ride on a Dragon.

Okay, its been a while since I've look at SpaceX's manifest and thought perhaps they were referencing Bigelow on the SpX-8 Dragon flight.

Unfortunately, Bigelow's operational station has been launching in 2-3 years time for the last decade.

Bigelow's Jay Ingham addressed this at Wednesday's event. Up until now, they have been waiting for a commercial launch provider to materialize before setting a hard date to have the BA 330 ready to fly. Now they have decided that they have waited long enough and with commercial crew proceeding as it is, they've decided internally to be ready to ship flight-ready modules to whatever launch site by late 2016.
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #437 on: 05/02/2014 12:20 am »
2015    Bigelow Aerospace    Cape Canaveral    Falcon 9

That is BEAM, the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module, to be installed on ISS for two years and launching on SpX-8 in July 2015.

thx for the reminder.....some http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25395862/nlv-company-gets-closer-to-building-space-stations

"Boeing plans to be the shuttle company, launching people in nine-person pods."

Not sure if I'd like to launched in a pod ;D

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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #438 on: 05/02/2014 12:29 am »
9 passengers + pilot makes sense for 3-6hr trip with few orbits of earth.

Believe they said the trip would take 12 hrs.
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Re: Bigelow Aerospace Update and Discussion Thread (3)
« Reply #439 on: 05/02/2014 02:54 am »
Can you link me to a source.

Boeing and Bigelow held a press briefing in Las Vegas yesterday where they showed off the new design (and the BA-330). I was there. Article forthcoming on Space.com.
Cool. I look forward to the article.
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