Quote from: Phosphorus on 05/28/2017 08:58 amhttps://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is createdRoscosmos stopped working on a manned version of Angara launcher.Роскосмос отказался от пилотируемой версии ракеты «Ангара»http://kosmolenta.com/index.php/1064-2017-05-30-manned-phoenix
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is created
Quote from: Kosmos2001 on 05/31/2017 02:17 pmQuote from: Phosphorus on 05/28/2017 08:58 amhttps://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3310777"Kommersant" reports Angara-A5P is "cancelled" until a super-heavy launcher is createdRoscosmos stopped working on a manned version of Angara launcher.Роскосмос отказался от пилотируемой версии ракеты «Ангара»http://kosmolenta.com/index.php/1064-2017-05-30-manned-phoenixSo, what now? Is that basically an admission that the new crew craft (PTK NP?) is indefinitely delayed? Or what will it launch on? Neither Phoenix/Soyuz-5 or Baiterek or whatever seems to have been given a green light.
Bing translation. Seems to be a dispute on the pricing of some electronic components. Not sure how relevant this is to a delay.
There is something about Angara-A5 №71753 to №71756. There is a dispute about the cost of a component. Khrunichev paid an inflated price to prevent delays in completing №71753? Something like that.
#Roscosmos reports delivery of two boosters for the 2nd #Angara-5 mission... but two more apparently yet to come. DETAILS: http://www.russianspaceweb.com/angara5-flight2.html#2018 …
The Khrunichev Center (part of the State Corporation "ROSKOSMOS") together with the Central Scientific Research Institute of Machine Building (TsNIIMash) conducts vibration and strength tests of one of the universal URM-1 rocket modules used in the first stage of the Angara-A5 launch vehicle. These tests began in late 2017 and will last several months.Carrying out of tests in TSNIIMash is necessary for an objective estimation of quality and reliability of a product before its statement on a batch production. The serial production of URMs for the carrier rockets of the Angara family is created on the basis of the Omsk production site of the Khrunichev Center - in PO Polyot. The purpose of the tests is to assess the technological readiness of production in the Polet software, organized using the latest technological equipment, equipment and progressive production processes, to the serial production of Angara carrier rockets. Now the enterprise produces separate parts for the second and third flight rockets without assembly of products.Omsk "Polet" has already manufactured and began to supply parts of the URMs to Moscow for the second flight rocket "Angara-A5". The bench sample of one of these modules (the so-called "PV" product, the abbreviation "PV" means "flight + vibration testing") and is now tested on the unique in its capabilities experimental base of strength and dynamics TsNIIMash.The final assembly of the second flight rocket "Angara-A5" will be performed at the missile and space plant of the Khrunichev Center in Moscow. Sending of the carrier rocket "Angara-A5" to the cosmodrome Plesetsk is planned in 2018.
...So what is the current status of the next launch? I’m not sure how to read the attachment in the previous post, does it mean that the next launch is happening this year or in 2021?
Finally, this table gives the actual reason - why Angara does not fly: it turned out to be ridiculously expensive.For the same manufacturing period (2019-2021) we have several orders to build Proton-M, and the average contract price is ~ 2.1 B rub. So that Angara A5 is ca. 2.5 times more expensive with its production price tag 5 Billion.BTW, these 5 Billion rub. cover the LV production - ONLY.It DOES NOT include Upper stage, PL fairing, transportation and launch cost.
So I just watched the interesting “Angara” documentary on amazon prime (subtitled - it was originally a Russian production done a few years ago). At the time they obviously did not anticipate the production problems, nor how Angara now seems to have fallen out of favor compared to the “new project” Soyuz 5. Nor how much the commercial market now has changed...So what is the current status of the next launch? I’m not sure how to read the attachment in the previous post, does it mean that the next launch is happening this year or in 2021?
Quote from: smoliarm on 04/24/2018 01:17 pmFinally, this table gives the actual reason - why Angara does not fly: it turned out to be ridiculously expensive.For the same manufacturing period (2019-2021) we have several orders to build Proton-M, and the average contract price is ~ 2.1 B rub. So that Angara A5 is ca. 2.5 times more expensive with its production price tag 5 Billion.BTW, these 5 Billion rub. cover the LV production - ONLY.It DOES NOT include Upper stage, PL fairing, transportation and launch cost.Yikes! (if true!)
So Angara-A5 is too expensive to buy. Proton is increasingly unpopular in Kazhakstan, whose government has been gradually phasing out Russian operations on their territory. (The latest example is the constuction of launch silos for the GAZELLE ABM at Kapustin Yar to replace the ones at Sary Shagan.) How soon will Russia lose all heavy-satellite launch capability?
Quote from: Arch Admiral on 04/30/2018 04:09 amSo Angara-A5 is too expensive to buy. Proton is increasingly unpopular in Kazhakstan, whose government has been gradually phasing out Russian operations on their territory. (The latest example is the constuction of launch silos for the GAZELLE ABM at Kapustin Yar to replace the ones at Sary Shagan.) How soon will Russia lose all heavy-satellite launch capability?Not very soon. Even if Angara A5 is expensive, its still available.
Well, Angara A5 WILL be available no earlier than 2022 and IF there will be no delays with production schedule.