CST-100 is going to be a finalist
Quote from: Jim on 03/14/2014 02:08 amCST-100 is going to be a finalistUnsubstantiated
Quote from: yg1968 on 03/14/2014 01:12 pmQuote from: Jim on 03/14/2014 02:08 amCST-100 is going to be a finalistI agree with your other points. But how do you know that Boeing will be a finalist for CCtCap? If their price is out of whack with the rest of the competition, they are likely to be downselected. Apparently, NASA intends to ask more skin in the game from participants for the next round, that could also hurt Boeing if they are not willing to do so.NASA is not budgeting for a down select.
Quote from: Jim on 03/14/2014 02:08 amCST-100 is going to be a finalistI agree with your other points. But how do you know that Boeing will be a finalist for CCtCap? If their price is out of whack with the rest of the competition, they are likely to be downselected. Apparently, NASA intends to ask more skin in the game from participants for the next round, that could also hurt Boeing if they are not willing to do so.
Quote from: Lurker Steve on 03/14/2014 01:15 pmQuote from: yg1968 on 03/14/2014 01:12 pmQuote from: Jim on 03/14/2014 02:08 amCST-100 is going to be a finalistI agree with your other points. But how do you know that Boeing will be a finalist for CCtCap? If their price is out of whack with the rest of the competition, they are likely to be downselected. Apparently, NASA intends to ask more skin in the game from participants for the next round, that could also hurt Boeing if they are not willing to do so.NASA is not budgeting for a down select.A down select is inevitable.
We know it's NOT the $25M per seat that was advertised for flights to the non-existent Bigelow station.
Jim is there room in Boeings design to use a "berthing" hatch if needed quickly in the future?Any opinion if a cargo return version could quickly be put together (crash program) if needed?
Quote from: Prober on 03/14/2014 03:01 amJim is there room in Boeings design to use a "berthing" hatch if needed quickly in the future?Any opinion if a cargo return version could quickly be put together (crash program) if needed?No Room.http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/autopia/2011/10/BoeingCST100d-660x311.jpg
Quote from: Lurker Steve on 03/14/2014 05:59 pmWe know it's NOT the $25M per seat that was advertised for flights to the non-existent Bigelow station.At a NASA news conference on 18 May 2012, SpaceX confirmed again that their target launch price for crewed Dragon flights is $140,000,000, or $20,000,000 per seat if the maximum crew of 7 is aboard.I am pretty sure I have seen other preliminary prices quoted several times. Even if this was true, then there is even more reason to not down select until multiple competitors are ready to offer rides. Then you can choose the best offer and still have the others as a backup just in case.
And there aren't 7 passengers onboard flights to the ISS, so the cost model is incorrect.
ISS could possibly go to 7 crew, especially if extended to 2028 (which seems most likely) or even beyond. That'd mean at least 4 crew.
A crew of 4 is still less than 40 million per passenger (assuming no cargo and no extra passengers on the flight). Still cheap compared to 70 million for the Russians.
As an European, I don't understand how Americans tolerate that Russian dependency.