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Expectations for a 100 years time
« on: 03/29/2006 02:56 am »
Personal point of interest here, but what new concepts do we think will be employeed in 100 years time?

Will we all be driving around in hover cars? Will we have moved to a sustainable fuel source. Will we have set up base on outposts past Mars?

Your thoughts?

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #1 on: 03/29/2006 03:10 am »
Providing we haven't destroyed ourselves, I think the human lust for new exploration will eventually drive us to exploring the solar system at least by then. We need to look for alternative fuel sources and if that is added into the equation on exploitation of the moon and Mars, then I think that will also help the aims of the space program in 100 years time.
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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #2 on: 03/29/2006 05:13 am »
Hopefully by my next life we'll have extended human presence at least to Mars, if not beyond!  But just as importantly, I hope our species starts taking better care of this planet and starts acting more civilized.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #3 on: 03/29/2006 06:11 pm »
I HOPE we will have established a permanent outpost somewhere off Earth, ideally Mars; however, I don't believe that will happen. I suspect we will have made small advances in energy sources and propulsion, but nothing big enough to throw open the doors of a large-scale human migration.

In fact (not trying to be too negative), I have been expecting the worst for a few years now.
I enjoy reading about history and human interaction, so I don't think we can separate technological activities from human activities. In other words, we cannot expect works of genius from a society which seems to be populated more and more by educated barbarians. And western Europe and North America do, indeed, seem to be heading this way.

In addition, America (which is doing most of the exploration right now) is suffering from a trade deficit and a budget deficit, which I believe will create a HUGE problem in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if the space budget was hacked to the bone soon, because peoples' priority will be simple survival, not advancement.

That's my two cents anyhow. Hope for the best; prepare for the worst.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #4 on: 03/29/2006 07:37 pm »
Dateline 2106.

"With CEV canceled long ago we celebrate the Fifty-eleventh launch of a Delta II with yet another bomb disposal robot on Mars.

In this issue of Popular Science we have yet another article on flying cars--"maybe tomorrow."

Fusion power will be had 'in another 20 years.'

Meanwhile there is more alarm on Global Shrinking--the latest in a long line of doom and gloom scenarios.

George Neal Bush XXIV will run against Mustapha Hapsburg Clinton  III.

Nothing ever changes.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #5 on: 03/30/2006 04:00 am »
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Dateline 2106.

"With CEV canceled long ago we celebrate the Fifty-eleventh launch of a Delta II with yet another bomb disposal robot on Mars.

In this issue of Popular Science we have yet another article on flying cars--"maybe tomorrow."

Fusion power will be had 'in another 20 years.'

Meanwhile there is more alarm on Global Shrinking--the latest in a long line of doom and gloom scenarios.

George Neal Bush XXIV will run against Mustapha Hapsburg Clinton  III.

Nothing ever changes.

And we will still be waiting for STS RTF 3 (or 4)...

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #6 on: 03/31/2006 07:17 pm »
You got it.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #7 on: 04/01/2006 07:54 am »
I would like us to have found a way to visit other stars, via wormholes or the likes.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #8 on: 04/01/2006 05:01 pm »
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I would like us to have found a way to visit other stars, via wormholes or the likes.

This is why we can't (unless for fun) think this far ahead, as we have yet to send humans past out our moon at present.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #9 on: 04/01/2006 05:13 pm »
100 years from now, they MIGHT have the ECO sensors fixed. or at least replaced :o

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #10 on: 04/01/2006 11:04 pm »
Good thread topic.

I'll refrain from predicting advances on Earth because I believe it's far more difficult to predict where personal technology or politics will be in a few generation's time than it is to predict where we'll be in space.

I'll also refrain from predicting any large variables. That is to say: No nuclear war with China, no asteroid hits, no global plague, and no complete climate breakdown.

So, without further ado, my very conservative predictions.

By 2106 we will have...

A fourth generation CEV that's larger, can stay in space for years at a time, and runs on nuclear electric propulsion. It will also require nothing more than a booster to get out of Earth or Lunar, orbit. In short, it will be on the scale of the Shuttle, but able to actually go places.

Rockets from Earth will roughly resemble what we have now, but Earth-to-space transport will be dominated by private companies and be commonplace and environmentally sound. The fourth gen CEV will launch from atop a fourth generation CaLV.

We will have research stations on the moon.

We will have *private* but not government run space stations in Earth orbit.

We will have a handful of private-run moon colonies. They will be in constant financial trouble.

We will have landed on Mars half-a-dozen times, but the logistics and engineering of a permanent colony will escape us. It will remain too damn expensive.

Robots, however, will dominate the Martian surface. Private companies and the U.S. government will have fleets of nuclear rovers, drills, and telecom satellites orbiting the planet. Real-time super-HD-holographic-whatever footage will stream back to Earth and the Moon.

We will have explored the Neptune and Uranus systems in-depth with their own Cassini-style orbiters.

We will have sent multiple follow-up missions to the Kuiper Belt. Including a Pluto-Charon orbiter.

We will have landed, roved, and drilled on Europa. It will have been insanely expensive.

We will have done a sample return of Enceladus.

Sample returns from comets and asteroids will be commonplace.

Titan will have been explored by numerous rovers and aerobots, but a manned expedition will always remain "15 years off."

Venus will continue to be ignored.

Third and fourth generation terrestrial planet finders will provide us with maps of the continents on other worlds.

We will have sent an "interstellar probe" or two to explore the heliopause and Oort Cloud.

Just as we spend today lamenting the fact that humans don't leave LEO, people in 2106 will lament the fact that humans haven't traveled beyond the orbit of Mars.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #11 on: 04/02/2006 02:01 am »
Those are realistic views, but given we'll all be dead before then, I kinda hope for more...or is that totally unrealistic?

I would much prefer the above to have happened in 50 years time?

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #12 on: 04/02/2006 05:02 am »
I got this from an old roleplaying boardgame - some of it is kind of silly but some of it seems possible

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21ST CENTURY

2000-2010:
China embarks on a manned space program, putting several yuhangyuan ("space navigators") into orbit and on the moon. The first human clone is born. The United States commits to a Mars mission.

2012:
North and South Korea set date for reunification.

2015:
Russia joins the manned Mars program. Antibiotic-resistant pneumonia pandemic kills 10 million worldwide. Revised Outer Space Treaty is drafted, making it easier for corporations or states to lay claim to extraterrestrial resources.

2016:
South African conglomerate Ithemba Biotechnologies distributes a cheap broad-spectrum AIDES vaccine in Africa. China and Taiwan negotiate date for peaceful reunification. China announces its own Mars program.

2018:
The Long March VI rocket lofts China's first space lab module into orbit. European Union increases fusion power budget. Biotech Euphrates is founded, with a then-radical commitment to human gengineering.

2020:
The genetic testing of unborn children and use of genetic engineering to "gene-fix" monogenetic hereditary defects is common in affluent nations. China lands robots on Mars and Phobos. U.S. and Russia establish a service station facility at the Earth-Luna L4 point.

2021:
Columbia Aerospace opens an equatorial launch facility in Quito, Ecudador. By 2100, it will be the Earth's busiest spaceport. European and Japanese space agencies are the first to use robot "cybershells" to build a distributed-array observatory at Tsiolkovsky Crater on Luna's farside. A small manned base soon follows. Mainland China and Taiwan are reunited.

2023:
French tissue engineers grow functional human hearts for transplant. Every organ in the body (except the brain) is now replaceable.

2024:
The U.S.-Russian Horus I manned Mars mission is launched. Sergey Zarubayev becomes dictator of Kazakstan. Thanks to advances medical technology, he will retain his death-grip on life and power for the rest of the 21st century.

2025:
China's Chaosheng manned Mars misson is launched, even as the U.S.-Russian Horus I mission ends in tragedy.

2026:
Chaosheng spacecraft arrives, and Wen-Xuan Liang becomes the first human to set foot on Mars. China establishes first permanent Mars colony.

2028:
Multiple follow-up expeditions to Mars. Industrial combines Vosper-Babbage and Cenargo Heavy Industries finance a series of manned and unmanned missions to near-Earth asteroids.

2033:
Biotech Euphrates markets gene-enhanced dogs and cats. First operational fusion reactor goes online in San Francisco. British Columbia and Alberta separate from Canada and form the Union of Alberta and British Columbia (ABC).

2034:
Australian Kyle Porters sets out the tenents of Information Socialism. He argues for a society in which patents and intellectual properties are free, but inventors and creators are subsidized by the state.

2035:
The first low-sapient AI is created, with near human intelligence. The South African Coalition (a loose economic alliance for sub-Saharan development) is formed. Austrailia, Korea, and Japan form the Pacific Rim Alliance (PRA). The Chinese space development corporation Xiao Chu is formed. Quebec and the Atlantic Provinces separate from what remains of Canada to join the European Union.

2038:
The Cenargo Corporation manned plasma sail spacecraft Phoenix makes its maiden flight to the asteroid Ceres, inaugurating the Second Age of Sail. Its crew establishes a manned outpost on Ceres, though the company abandons it within a year as uneconomical. Zarubayev regime begins a program aimed at eradicating the majority Kazak culture, language, and religion.

2039:
A commercial Helium-3 reactor goes online in Japan. The Ares Conspiracy begins the illicit terraforming of Mars. First quantum super-computers are built. A major application is the rapid solution of highly complex protein folding problems, a key to advanced biotechnology.

2040:
Biotech Euphrates and other firms begin offering human genetic upgrades on a custom basis; these are expensive and often not fully successful.

2041:
The Ares Conspiracy is discovered and their terraforming efforts are dubbed the Ares Plague. Faced with arrest or worse, its members and sympathizers steal a NASA deep space vessel and flee to the asteroid belt where they settle on Ceres, occupying the abandoned Cenargo mining base. It is renamed Silas Duncan Station. Montreal secedes from Quebec and becomes a free city.

2043:
Anglo-American expedition reaches Mercury; Elizabeth Daintith is the first human to set foot on it. Many corporation begin to mine Helium-3 from the Lunar regolith to support the growing number of fusion plants on Earth. First universal 3D printer created. Moderate Arab states form the Islamic Caliphate.

2048:
Anglo-German expedition reached Venus. The Duncanite exiles on Ceres begim a program to alter their descendants for long-term survival in microgravity. A multinational science expedition reaches Jupiter's moon, Europa. Ice-penetrating robots explore the subsurface ocean and discover primitive life.

2052:
The Cenargo Corporation builds the first fusion-powered spacecraft, ending the Second Age of Sail. Treaty of Jerusalem settles the outstanding disputes between Israel and its neighbors. Infosocialist party, inspired by the theories of Kyle Porters, forms in Thailand.

2058:
Dr. Arifa Aliah Ali  unveils the Grand Unified Theory that successfully reconciles gravity and quantum mechanics. Unable to prevent the Ares Plague from terraforming Mars, nations and corporations begin instead to accelerate the process. Fauxflesh, vat-grown meat, goes on sale.

2062:
Infosocialists win the election in Thailand, the first of several info- or nanosocialist parties to achieve power in the 2060s and 2070s. Freehaulers Guild formed.

2066:
Valles Marineris on Mars is flooded. Chinese cybershells explore Pluto. Biotech Euphrates builds first android with high-sapient AI. They are living beings functionally similar to humans, but asssembled using tissue engineering and biogenesis nanotechology, and educated using accelerated learning techniques. Zarubayev earns the nickname "Stalinashka" due to his bionic implants and ruthless oppression of dissent.

2070:
Xiao Chu and other Chinese firms complian that unlicensed clones of their androids and genetically enhanced animals are being pirated by Indonesian and Thai companies, and demand action.

2074:
Indonesia, Peru, Thailand, and Vietnam form the Transpacific Socialist Alliance (TSA) and release a statement of principles. Reference to open access to nanotechnology leads to them being dubbed nanosocialist. First Mars- and aquatic-adpated parahumans engineered by China and Australia respectively. Consumption of fauxflesh exceeds that of natural meat.

2077:
American expedition lands on Saturn's moon, Titan, where they establish the first permanent colony. Construction of the first space elevator begins on Mars.

2080:
Tranhumanist Kazuhiro Nishimori is the first healthy human to undergo destructive uploading. Genefixed people now represent a majority of Earth's population.

2084-2089:
The Pacific War. China launches a surprise attack against Thai bioweapons directorate facilities and satellites. The other TSA nations honor their mutual-defense treaty obligations, and fire cruise missiles at Chinese ports and naval vessels. Fierce fighting around the Pacific Rim follows. In deep space, TSA vessels launch multiple autonomous kill vehicles (AKVs) at Chinese targets. China destroys most of the TSA's orbital and surface space facilities, including their solar power satellites.

2089:
A royalist coup topples the hard-line nanosocialist government in Thailand, and the TSA agrees to a European Union-mediated peace treaty. Martian Triads begin manufacturing pleasure androids.

2090:
The Cenargo Corporation and Nanodynamics establish ice-mining bases on Titan and Callisto. Failed coup attempt against Zarubayev regime leads to a ruthless purge ("the Silence"). Many ,assacres are carried out by android soldiers. Xoxing (making multiple self-aware mind emulations of a person) is made illegal world-wide. Mars space elevator completed. Work begins on Earth's space elevator, based in Kenya.

2099:
Zarubayev dies and his regime disintegrates due to in-fighting. By year's end, Russian troops enter and secure the beleaguered nation.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #13 on: 04/02/2006 06:09 am »
Here's my thought on the future: and since any and all projections or guesses about that future are false... it doesn't matter what I say... it will be and is wrong.

2010: the 127th or so shuttle launches and brings that chapter to a close.

2020: America makes it back to the moon and decides to leave 2-3 people on it like the first antartic base.
US and India are doing many joint ventures while ESA becomes the other big player and China come into its own

2030: China replaces the US as the single remaining Super Power after USA has a an even greater depression and brings britan down with it as well as causing india to go off on its own with others like france. USA essentially drops out of the space game for a while.

2040: USA becomes confused

2050: China and india confront each other and the US has no influence over the two anymore.

2060: ?
2070: ?
2080: USA returns to space race with vigor after a total remake of itself
2090: The west unites to hold its own on the global scene with china and india.
2100: Advances in physics and technology make the first international adventure to jupiter or saturn feasible and it is done in the next year. Earth scientists decide to colonize the moon because so much interesting science (astronomy) can be done there. we may even decide to put in a first feable Near earth asteroid defence system or mechanism that may or may not actually work better that observing and hoping that we see all the dangerous ones.

"ignorance + imagination = prophesy"

to try to alter this future, I'm hoping for a "Wisdom Revolution" to help us make the shift from the human history of early culture and early culture with technology  to something less frightening like a wise, globally conscious race with the beginnings of advanced technology--- the most important part of our evolution is the cultivation of wisdom
please quote me on that and look up the definitions of wisdom. don't stop with just one dictionary or ten. ask yourself what does the word mean. and if it describes some high level of human functioning... why is it not something we strive for?
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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #14 on: 04/02/2006 07:26 am »
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MartianBase - 1/4/2006  11:02 PM

I got this from an old roleplaying boardgame - some of it is kind of silly but some of it seems possible

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21ST CENTURY

2000-2010:
China embarks on a manned space program, putting several yuhangyuan ("space navigators") into orbit and on the moon. The first human clone is born. The United States commits to a Mars mission.

2012:
North and South Korea set date for reunification.

2015:
Russia joins the manned Mars program. Antibiotic-resistant pneumonia pandemic kills 10 million worldwide. Revised Outer Space Treaty is drafted, making it easier for corporations or states to lay claim to extraterrestrial resources.

2016:
South African conglomerate Ithemba Biotechnologies distributes a cheap broad-spectrum AIDES vaccine in Africa. China and Taiwan negotiate date for peaceful reunification. China announces its own Mars program.

2018:
The Long March VI rocket lofts China's first space lab module into orbit. European Union increases fusion power budget. Biotech Euphrates is founded, with a then-radical commitment to human gengineering.

2020:
The genetic testing of unborn children and use of genetic engineering to "gene-fix" monogenetic hereditary defects is common in affluent nations. China lands robots on Mars and Phobos. U.S. and Russia establish a service station facility at the Earth-Luna L4 point.

2021:
Columbia Aerospace opens an equatorial launch facility in Quito, Ecudador. By 2100, it will be the Earth's busiest spaceport. European and Japanese space agencies are the first to use robot "cybershells" to build a distributed-array observatory at Tsiolkovsky Crater on Luna's farside. A small manned base soon follows. Mainland China and Taiwan are reunited.

2023:
French tissue engineers grow functional human hearts for transplant. Every organ in the body (except the brain) is now replaceable.

2024:
The U.S.-Russian Horus I manned Mars mission is launched. Sergey Zarubayev becomes dictator of Kazakstan. Thanks to advances medical technology, he will retain his death-grip on life and power for the rest of the 21st century.

2025:
China's Chaosheng manned Mars misson is launched, even as the U.S.-Russian Horus I mission ends in tragedy.

2026:
Chaosheng spacecraft arrives, and Wen-Xuan Liang becomes the first human to set foot on Mars. China establishes first permanent Mars colony.

2028:
Multiple follow-up expeditions to Mars. Industrial combines Vosper-Babbage and Cenargo Heavy Industries finance a series of manned and unmanned missions to near-Earth asteroids.

2033:
Biotech Euphrates markets gene-enhanced dogs and cats. First operational fusion reactor goes online in San Francisco. British Columbia and Alberta separate from Canada and form the Union of Alberta and British Columbia (ABC).

2034:
Australian Kyle Porters sets out the tenents of Information Socialism. He argues for a society in which patents and intellectual properties are free, but inventors and creators are subsidized by the state.

2035:
The first low-sapient AI is created, with near human intelligence. The South African Coalition (a loose economic alliance for sub-Saharan development) is formed. Austrailia, Korea, and Japan form the Pacific Rim Alliance (PRA). The Chinese space development corporation Xiao Chu is formed. Quebec and the Atlantic Provinces separate from what remains of Canada to join the European Union.

2038:
The Cenargo Corporation manned plasma sail spacecraft Phoenix makes its maiden flight to the asteroid Ceres, inaugurating the Second Age of Sail. Its crew establishes a manned outpost on Ceres, though the company abandons it within a year as uneconomical. Zarubayev regime begins a program aimed at eradicating the majority Kazak culture, language, and religion.

2039:
A commercial Helium-3 reactor goes online in Japan. The Ares Conspiracy begins the illicit terraforming of Mars. First quantum super-computers are built. A major application is the rapid solution of highly complex protein folding problems, a key to advanced biotechnology.

2040:
Biotech Euphrates and other firms begin offering human genetic upgrades on a custom basis; these are expensive and often not fully successful.

2041:
The Ares Conspiracy is discovered and their terraforming efforts are dubbed the Ares Plague. Faced with arrest or worse, its members and sympathizers steal a NASA deep space vessel and flee to the asteroid belt where they settle on Ceres, occupying the abandoned Cenargo mining base. It is renamed Silas Duncan Station. Montreal secedes from Quebec and becomes a free city.

2043:
Anglo-American expedition reaches Mercury; Elizabeth Daintith is the first human to set foot on it. Many corporation begin to mine Helium-3 from the Lunar regolith to support the growing number of fusion plants on Earth. First universal 3D printer created. Moderate Arab states form the Islamic Caliphate.

2048:
Anglo-German expedition reached Venus. The Duncanite exiles on Ceres begim a program to alter their descendants for long-term survival in microgravity. A multinational science expedition reaches Jupiter's moon, Europa. Ice-penetrating robots explore the subsurface ocean and discover primitive life.

2052:
The Cenargo Corporation builds the first fusion-powered spacecraft, ending the Second Age of Sail. Treaty of Jerusalem settles the outstanding disputes between Israel and its neighbors. Infosocialist party, inspired by the theories of Kyle Porters, forms in Thailand.

2058:
Dr. Arifa Aliah Ali  unveils the Grand Unified Theory that successfully reconciles gravity and quantum mechanics. Unable to prevent the Ares Plague from terraforming Mars, nations and corporations begin instead to accelerate the process. Fauxflesh, vat-grown meat, goes on sale.

2062:
Infosocialists win the election in Thailand, the first of several info- or nanosocialist parties to achieve power in the 2060s and 2070s. Freehaulers Guild formed.

2066:
Valles Marineris on Mars is flooded. Chinese cybershells explore Pluto. Biotech Euphrates builds first android with high-sapient AI. They are living beings functionally similar to humans, but asssembled using tissue engineering and biogenesis nanotechology, and educated using accelerated learning techniques. Zarubayev earns the nickname "Stalinashka" due to his bionic implants and ruthless oppression of dissent.

2070:
Xiao Chu and other Chinese firms complian that unlicensed clones of their androids and genetically enhanced animals are being pirated by Indonesian and Thai companies, and demand action.

2074:
Indonesia, Peru, Thailand, and Vietnam form the Transpacific Socialist Alliance (TSA) and release a statement of principles. Reference to open access to nanotechnology leads to them being dubbed nanosocialist. First Mars- and aquatic-adpated parahumans engineered by China and Australia respectively. Consumption of fauxflesh exceeds that of natural meat.

2077:
American expedition lands on Saturn's moon, Titan, where they establish the first permanent colony. Construction of the first space elevator begins on Mars.

2080:
Tranhumanist Kazuhiro Nishimori is the first healthy human to undergo destructive uploading. Genefixed people now represent a majority of Earth's population.

2084-2089:
The Pacific War. China launches a surprise attack against Thai bioweapons directorate facilities and satellites. The other TSA nations honor their mutual-defense treaty obligations, and fire cruise missiles at Chinese ports and naval vessels. Fierce fighting around the Pacific Rim follows. In deep space, TSA vessels launch multiple autonomous kill vehicles (AKVs) at Chinese targets. China destroys most of the TSA's orbital and surface space facilities, including their solar power satellites.

2089:
A royalist coup topples the hard-line nanosocialist government in Thailand, and the TSA agrees to a European Union-mediated peace treaty. Martian Triads begin manufacturing pleasure androids.

2090:
The Cenargo Corporation and Nanodynamics establish ice-mining bases on Titan and Callisto. Failed coup attempt against Zarubayev regime leads to a ruthless purge ("the Silence"). Many ,assacres are carried out by android soldiers. Xoxing (making multiple self-aware mind emulations of a person) is made illegal world-wide. Mars space elevator completed. Work begins on Earth's space elevator, based in Kenya.

2099:
Zarubayev dies and his regime disintegrates due to in-fighting. By year's end, Russian troops enter and secure the beleaguered nation.

That is fantastic. Very cleverly thought out!

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #15 on: 04/10/2006 06:05 am »
In one hundred years, computer games will have advanced to the level where we can do anything we dream off from the comfort of our own home. We will no longer have real friends.

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In one hundred years, computer games will have advanced to the level where we can do anything we dream off from the comfort of our own home. We will no longer have real friends.

What a lovely thought ;)
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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #17 on: 04/15/2006 07:15 pm »
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DavidB - 29/3/2006  12:11 PMI...America (which is doing most of the exploration right now) is suffering from a trade deficit and a budget deficit, which I believe will create a HUGE problem in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised if the space budget was hacked to the bone soon...

Afraid I agree with you. At the time Apollo spending peaked and headed down, I was in my teens and not paying much attention to fiscal policy. But looking back, I see that at the time the budgetary tap was closing (end of Saturn production, cancellation of Apollo 18-20, and of most Apollo applications follow-ons), we had:
- an ongoing war
- [then] record deficits
- new domestic spending  commitments (think Medicare drug plan)
- international doubts about the strength of the dollar (a "run" on gold in early 1968)

It all sounds all too familiar. So I'm not investing too much in debating the merits of VSE/ESAS -- because I can't convince myself that it (or a lot of other spending that will be seen as discretionary) will survive when the hangover arrives.

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #18 on: 04/19/2006 06:29 pm »
I expect to have had the first FTL trip by that time.
Physics is advancing and we shouldn't be limited to concepts we know of already.
Immortality, mind-machine melt- i.e your self would live in a computer.
Think about it, if your brain is linked to a computer - neurons have been linked to chips already, it will start using it as if it were a part of your body. After a period of time, your awareness might be able to reside entirely in the computer.
btw I found this great site, I don't know how many of the things showed here will hit the shelves, but it's a great read:
www.gizmag.com

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RE: Expectations for a 100 years time
« Reply #19 on: 04/19/2006 09:39 pm »
FTL is a big one. I just don't know if they'll find a way around the obvious physics problem.

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