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Offline jmiraglia

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Brazilian VLM-1
« on: 06/20/2011 08:30 pm »
Conception of Brazilian VLM-1.

It can be easily converted for an ICBM.

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Re: Brazilian VLM-1
« Reply #1 on: 06/21/2011 06:51 pm »
I might be mistaken, but isn't any fully solid LV almost an ICBM?

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Re: Brazilian VLM-1
« Reply #2 on: 06/21/2011 07:06 pm »
I might be mistaken, but isn't any fully solid LV almost an ICBM?

Isn't any satellite launch vehicle a potential ICBM? Since Brazil doesn't have nukes, it doesn't matter that the VLM throw weight would be really low, cause things that don't exist don't have weight.

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Re: Brazilian VLM-1
« Reply #3 on: 06/21/2011 07:35 pm »
I might be mistaken, but isn't any fully solid LV almost an ICBM?
Quite true - both Vanguard and Juno 1 could have masqueraded as ICBMs (in theory which created the myth of the super USSR ICBM in 1957 BUT a satellite LV does not need the accuracy of an ICBM).
1958 launch vehicle highlights: Vanguard TV-4 and Atlas 12B

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Re: Brazilian VLM-1
« Reply #4 on: 06/21/2011 07:46 pm »
Any cryogenic LV has considerably difficult logistics to be used as an ICBM. Not that it can't, but you'd have low response time and complicated launch times. Hypergolic are better, but still not optimal (case in point, Scud).
Solids can be stored in near launch state, so are considered the best solution for military applications.
All South America has signed the NNPT, Argentina might have had a prototype (depending whom you ask). So it shouldn't be considered that risky. In fact, the Brazilian Nuclear submarine will make use of Argentine reactor technology (and French), with Brazilian fuel. But the fact is still that it's an almost ICBM.

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Re: Brazilian VLM-1
« Reply #5 on: 06/26/2022 03:22 am »
I found this link that is of relevance to the VLM-1:
https://www.dlr.de/content/en/articles/news/2021/04/20211007_s50-rocket-motor-for-microlaunchers.html

The S50 solid-fuel rocket motor is intended to power the first two stages of the VLM-1 and is a joint project between the German research institute DRL and Brazil's Instituto de Aeronáutica e Espaço (IAE).

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Re: Brazilian VLM-1
« Reply #6 on: 06/26/2022 07:10 am »
The current plan for VLM-1 is:

- test and qualify the S50 engine
- launch the suborbital VS-50 rocket in August 2023
- work towards an orbital VLM-1 launch in 2025

VLM-1 payload capacity will be 30 kg to 300 km LEO.

https://revistapesquisa.fapesp.br/lancamento-ainda-distante/
« Last Edit: 06/26/2022 07:31 am by PM3 »
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