Perhaps the commontary of the current state of sci-fi is the best video Paul Chato has aired; the Redshirting of men on Star Trek and other Sci-Fi. This is a good watch with humour.
so maybe another quick look at budgets, they do it well and control spending with US indie movies and overseas movie makers and because the Hollywood is now business model that the President 'Ordered' to be saved and maybe makes no sense these days..it has become a political thing now on both sides to save the Big LA studios...and from both left and right we have criticism of this save the big studios policy.Indie and Overseas movies?Godzilla Minus One from year 2003 which made a lot of money globally Budget $10–15 million the original Final destination a horror Budget $23 million, the horror film can be even cheaperMad Max Budget $200,000 or 0.2 MillionFive Nights at Freddy's film 2023 Budget 20 MillionRocky Budget $1 millionNight of the Living Dead Budget $114,000Locke a 2013 psychological drama road film There was also a time when the market wasn't so bad if you had any kind of movie that did ok the studio would market merchandise and you would recover money from a poor box office with t-shirts and toys and DVD sales and Disney Rides and sales of baseball capsToday's budgetsThe Electric State year 2025 Budget cost $320Mission: Impossible — The Final Reckoning part2 Production Budget 400 Million or $400,000,000 Eternals 2021 movie $275 MillionStar Wars: The Last Jedi year 2017 Budget $300 Snow White remake 2025 movie $300 MillionBatman v Superman year 2016 Budget $270 The Flash...supposed to reboot WB DC with some multi verse dimension, Budget $220 million actor arrestedAnt-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania 2023 Budget $330...one of the lead actors arrestedThe Marvels 2023 Budget $300+ Million
How is their business model making any sense?
I read "Dune" in 1965 when it was published. so 60 years, not 30 years. For me, any mechanism that can move matter between points in space faster than light can travel between those points is FTL travel, and all such mechanisms are fantasy.The prohibitions in the OC Bible are IMO also fantasy. They require that all branches of the future society refrain from developing and using AI. It only takes one individual violate the prohibitions.
Top 2025 Movies at the Worldwide Box Office https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cumulative/released-in-20251 Ne Zha 2 (哪吒之魔童闹海) 2 A Minecraft Movie 3 Tang Tan 1900 (唐探1900) 4 Captain America: Brave New World 5 Sinners 6 Thunderbolts* 7 Disney’s Snow White 8 Creation of the Gods II: Demonic Confrontation 9 Dog Man 10 Bridget Jones: Mad About The Boy 11 Mickey 17 12 Boonie Bears: Future Reborn (熊出没·重启未来)… 13 A Working Man14 The Amateur 15 Legends of the Condor Heroes: The Gallants16 The Accountant 2 17 The King of Kings 18 The Monkey 19 Den of Thieves 2: Pantera 20 One of Them Days 21 Operation Hadal (蛟龙行动) 22 Final Destination: Bloodlines 23 Until Dawn 24 Flight Risk 25 Black Bag 26 Volshebnik Izumrudnogo goroda 27 Companion 28 Wolf Man 29 Novocaine 30 Heart Eyes
Great list, thanks! From the list, what seems to be dead is western comedy and realistic drama, Bridget Jones is the first one at no.10. The most classic Science fiction would be no.11, Mickey 17. So Science fiction is high up on the list, and superhero films, that are a crossover between SF and fantasy, are way up there at the top. Very few are aimed at adults.I was fascinated by 26, a Sovietic rip-off of the wizard of Oz.So, from this, Western science fiction hardly seems dead. Genre movies have, it seems, taken over the cultural landscape.
Quote from: lamontagne on 05/22/2025 02:24 pmGreat list, thanks! From the list, what seems to be dead is western comedy and realistic drama, Bridget Jones is the first one at no.10. The most classic Science fiction would be no.11, Mickey 17. So Science fiction is high up on the list, and superhero films, that are a crossover between SF and fantasy, are way up there at the top. Very few are aimed at adults.I was fascinated by 26, a Sovietic rip-off of the wizard of Oz.So, from this, Western science fiction hardly seems dead. Genre movies have, it seems, taken over the cultural landscape.If I give you a list of Top 30 fast food chains, this won't necessarily tell you how healthy their menu offering is, or even what state of health of their franchise is in.
I think Disney streaming is on its way out. Disney is trying to survive by recently adding more streaming outlets, such as ESPN and Hulu, to maintain its revenue. When you see this occurring (watering down content), then they are struggling.News outlets reported layoffs at Disney's streaming divisions yesterday. Consequently, reductions in streaming have begun. Ahsoka Season II will likely be the last series to stream, and Mandalorian Season 4 has been canceled. No further streaming series is scheduled. Lucasfilm is currently hiring more staff in the animation departments. The assumption is that Disney is reverting to a post-2018 strategy focused solely on movies and animation. It's not just Star Wars that is affected, but Marvel as well.
Quote from: sanman on 06/12/2025 12:02 pmIf others hadn't told me it was AI, then I'd have never knownhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=zSFk6odrkw0Yes, they are, and they are comparable to a set of AI videos concerning a specific Bigfoot character.https://www.youtube.com/@AWorldAccordingToAI...
If others hadn't told me it was AI, then I'd have never knownhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=zSFk6odrkw0
Perhaps the commontary of the current state of sci-fi
I think a more accurate observation w.r.t. scifi shows is that they stopped being nonepisodic, in my opinion this makes them better TV-shows, although it does make them different and people don't always like fundamental change to something they liked before. In the past you were usually relegated to watching what was on TV, which means tv-shows couldn't rely on their viewers having seen everything that came before. This meant that stories couldn't really progress as much and it gave them a sitcom-feel to it, where nothing they did mattered and they always ended up with the same main characters in the same situation.
The encounter with a dyson-sphere in TNG that was forgotten after the credits for example. That's a truly giant artefact of a society far more advanced than theirs and it just doesn't matter, the next episode is about the crew struggling with their sleep. It feels like watching an episode of Frasier where the characters watch the news about how it was discovered that Charon is an alien megastructure and it can be reactivated for interstellar travel, and the only impact is that Frasier decides to try out a new dish that he's allergic too because all of humanity might die and the only thing that has changed next episode is that Frasier has learned that he can in fact eat shrimp.
