For All Mankind

[Lars-J]

Season 4 had a slow start, but as I enjoyed the ending, as it transitioned more to the heist genre.

Were their technical issues? Yes of course, many. But overall I think they did a good job - and anyone expecting more from a TV show in that regard needs to calibrate their expectations.

Plot holes are more difficult to forgive, but I think the show did enough legwork in the end.

I do think they need to retire all their original cast members now, though… the old age makeup is NOT the show’s strength.

[brahmanknight]

It wasn't as fun as the first three seasons, but it was still quality.

Def agree, original cast needs to be gone (the producers have already said Ed Baldwin will be back next season ).

I thought the EVA fight was dumb, but I did enjoy when both got a too close view of the exhaust during the big burn.  lol

[FutureSpaceTourist]

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1749179320143155663

For All Mankind Season 5 in work, per comments from show advisor, astronaut Garrett Reisman.

youtube.com/watch?v=1iJoPV…

[QuantumG]

Danny hate in this thread is a bit much. Unless you've had an affair with a quasi-family-member you probably shouldn't comment about a character that is messed up for life by it, okay? I very much enjoyed watching a show where the consequences of people's actions are permanent. Same with Margo having the live with the consequences of her actions. The binary division of the base into an entrenched elite dominating over an captured workforce was great and the consequences were predictable, but it's hard to imagine space settlement without it! The smuggling is straight out of Lunar Descent by Allen Steele, and that whole book series is one of my favourites. Great to see it on screen.

[Robotbeat]

Tired scifi tropes. Having a hard time imagining any other way is a failure of imagination.

[bobthemonkey]

https://twitter.com/AppleTV/status/1780628688649801874

Your favorite alternate timeline, but from the cosmonaut perspective.

From the executive producers of For All Mankind, Star City is go for launch.

[Blackstar]

https://www.apple.com/tv-pr/news/2024/04/apple-renews-globally-acclaimed-hit-space-drama-for-all-mankind-for-season-five-and-announces-new-spinoff-series-star-city/

Apple renews globally acclaimed, hit space drama “For All Mankind” for season five and announces new spinoff series “Star City”
Thrilling new spinoff series from Sony Pictures Television and Apple explores the world of the Soviet space program, and hails from award-winning “For All Mankind” creators Ben Nedivi, Matt Wolpert and Ronald D. Moore

Press Release April 17, 2024
“For All Mankind” key art
“For All Mankind” will return for a fifth season alongside new spinoff series “Star City” on Apple TV+.

Following its critically acclaimed fourth season, which has been praised as “the best-written show on all of television” and “superior sci-fi,” Apple TV+’s hit, award-winning space drama series “For All Mankind” has landed a renewal for season five. Additionally, Apple TV+ and “For All Mankind” creators Ronald D. Moore, Matt Wolpert and Ben Nedivi will expand the “For All Mankind” universe with a brand-new spinoff series, “Star City,” which will be showrun by Nedivi and Wolpert. Both series are produced for Apple TV+ by Sony Pictures Television.

“Our fascination with the Soviet space program has grown with every season of ‘For All Mankind,’” said executive producers Wolpert and Nedivi. “The more we learned about this secret city in the forests outside Moscow where the Soviet cosmonauts and engineers worked and lived, the more we wanted to tell this story of the other side of the space race. We could not be more excited to continue building out the alternate history universe of ‘For All Mankind’ with our partners at Apple and Sony.”

“With each new season, ‘For All Mankind’ continues to build out a fascinating world and capture global audiences through high quality storytelling that has been so skillfully developed by Ron, Matt and Ben,” said Matt Cherniss, head of programming for Apple TV+. “There is so much to explore, and we, along with our partners at Sony, can’t wait to dive into this next chapter of the engrossing ‘For All Mankind’ universe.”

A robust expansion of the “For All Mankind” universe, “Star City” is a propulsive, paranoid thriller that takes us back to the key moment in the alt-history retelling of the space race — when the Soviet Union became the first nation to put a man on the moon. But this time, we explore the story from behind the Iron Curtain, showing the lives of the cosmonauts, the engineers and the intelligence officers embedded among them in the Soviet space program, and the risks they all took to propel humanity forward. “Star City” is created by Wolpert, Nedivi, and Moore. Nedivi and Wolpert serve as showrunners and executive produce alongside Moore and Maril Davis of Tall Ship Productions.

Since its global debut, “For All Mankind” has been widely acclaimed as “one of the best shows on television,” and season four holds a perfect 100% Certified Fresh score on Rotten Tomatoes.

“For All Mankind” is created by Emmy Award winner Moore, and Emmy nominees Wolpert and Nedivi. Wolpert and Nedivi serve as showrunners and executive produce alongside Moore and Davis of Tall Ship Productions, as well as David Weddle, Bradley Thompson, Seth Edelstein and Kira Snyder. “For All Mankind” is produced for Apple TV+ by Sony Pictures Television.

The latest season of “For All Mankind” rocketed the series into the new millennium. In the eight years since season three, Happy Valley has rapidly expanded its footprint on Mars by turning former foes into partners. It’s now 2003, and the focus of the space program has turned to the capture and mining of extremely valuable, mineral-rich asteroids that could change the future of both Earth and Mars. But simmering tensions between the residents of the now-sprawling international base threaten to undo everything they are working toward.

All four seasons of “For All Mankind” are now streaming globally on Apple TV+.

Apple TV+ offers premium, compelling drama and comedy series, feature films, groundbreaking documentaries, and kids and family entertainment, and is available to watch across all of a user’s favorite screens. After its launch on November 1, 2019, Apple TV+ became the first all-original streaming service to launch around the world, and has premiered more original hits and received more award recognitions faster than any other streaming service in its debut. To date, Apple Original films, documentaries and series have been honored with 482 wins and 2,142 award nominations and counting, including multi-Emmy Award-winning comedy “Ted Lasso” and historic Oscar Best Picture winner “CODA.”

[EE Scott]

Looking forward to season 5, personally hoping I care more about the story than I did on season 4, which for me was just OK. I've got no plans to check out Star City...unless their casting snags an actor or two that I can't resist. I bet the actual history of Star City would have a lot of astounding (in good and bad ways) stories to tell.

[Targeteer]

Got Apple+ free for two months when I replaced my flat screen and I just finished watching all 4 seasons.  The historical "alterations" were interesting and confusing but lead the story line interesting places.  The never ending, heavy handed Left wing under and over tones nearly made me puke and stop watching.  How they portrayed Sally Ride, or actually DIDN'T portray her was a joke.  Actually portraying Algore as the moronic "I invented everything" SOB that he is was surprising and refreshing. Is season 5 still coming?

[Nicolas PILLET]

Looking forward to season 5, personally hoping I care more about the story than I did on season 4, which for me was just OK. I've got no plans to check out Star City...unless their casting snags an actor or two that I can't resist. I bet the actual history of Star City would have a lot of astounding (in good and bad ways) stories to tell.

Star City has nothing to do with the thing portrayed in the show. It is only the training center for cosmonauts. There is no top management, no engineering, no mission control.

[Oersted]

Is this the right moment to glorify Russian/Soviet accomplishments in space? I really don't see the need to feed Russian counterfactual history glorifying their space accomplishments while Russia is engaged in a criminal war of conquest of extreme brutality against Ukraine.

[sanman]

Is this the right moment to glorify Russian/Soviet accomplishments in space? I really don't see the need to feed Russian counterfactual history glorifying their space accomplishments while Russia is engaged in a criminal war of conquest of extreme brutality against Ukraine.

Given Hollywood's poltical bent and raison d'etre, I doubt they'd do that. Instead they'd probably create such a series to skewer the Soviets/Russians. Think of HBO's mini-series Chernobyl.
Hell, even Dune has Stellan Skarsgard playing a villain named Vladimir. That was probably the sales pitch for the whole project.

[Targeteer]

Is this the right moment to glorify Russian/Soviet accomplishments in space? I really don't see the need to feed Russian counterfactual history glorifying their space accomplishments while Russia is engaged in a criminal war of conquest of extreme brutality against Ukraine.

Given Hollywood's poltical bent and raison d'etre, I doubt they'd do that. Instead they'd probably create such a series to skewer the Soviets/Russians. Think of HBO's mini-series Chernobyl.
Hell, even Dune has Stellan Skarsgard playing a villain named Vladimir. That was probably the sales pitch for the whole project.

Frank Herbert wrote Dune decades ago and the name Vladimir was his choice, not Holllywood's...

[sanman]

Frank Herbert wrote Dune decades ago and the name Vladimir was his choice, not Holllywood's...

I'm well aware, and read the main original novel back in highschool, after watching the David Lynch movie. Yet the choice to pop up a Dune reboot out of nowhere was Hollywood's.

Just as a  bit of trivia, I'd read that FAM creator/showrunner Ronald Moore claims strong inspiration from Frank Herbert's Dune. In his previous BSG reboot series, he says the Cylon hybrids were meant to be like the Guild Navigators from Dune.

(You may remember that the Hybrids were Cylon units who acted as master-controllers for the Basestars. Starbuck's boyfriend Anders turns into a Hybrid and eventually navigates the Battlestar Galactica into the Sun, destroying it forever.

Personally, I think the Hybrids remind me more of Karen S'jet from Homeworld, especially given the similar story themes from Homeworld and BSG of wandering through space  trying to find a home for themselves.You never know when creators/showrunners are giving out false leads as red herrings to hide what they actually ripped off.)

[AndrewM]

Is season 5 still coming?

Probably releasing in 2026.

https://collider.com/for-all-mankind-season-5-release-window-update/ [July 26]

If you were hoping to return to Happy Valley before the end of 2025, you might want to adjust expectations — or at least pack some extra patience for the journey back to Mars. At San Diego Comic-Con, For All Mankind co-creators Matt Wolpert and Ben Nedivi gave Collider's Steve Weintraub an exclusive update on the status of Season 5, and while there’s good news that it’s still very much in the works, the bad news is… no one’s ready to commit to a premiere date just yet.

Given Apple hasn't started marketing Season 5 yet and it's nearly October, 2026 looks likely.

[catdlr]

Is season 5 still coming?

Probably releasing in 2026.

https://collider.com/for-all-mankind-season-5-release-window-update/ [July 26]

If you were hoping to return to Happy Valley before the end of 2025, you might want to adjust expectations — or at least pack some extra patience for the journey back to Mars. At San Diego Comic-Con, For All Mankind co-creators Matt Wolpert and Ben Nedivi gave Collider's Steve Weintraub an exclusive update on the status of Season 5, and while there’s good news that it’s still very much in the works, the bad news is… no one’s ready to commit to a premiere date just yet.

Given Apple hasn't started marketing Season 5 yet and it's nearly October, 2026 looks likely.

Perhaps they should rewrite the scripts to include the discovery that the Chinese have been on the far side of the moon for years.