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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #60 on: 09/12/2024 02:51 pm »

Talk about shooting the messenger.  Koerner’s central complaint from that article:

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One audit, she estimated, took about 1,100 hours.

That sounds like a big number, but it’s not.  A full-time employee puts in something approaching 2000 hours a year.  (Say 40 hours a week multiplied by 48 work weeks per year is 1920 hours.)  So Koerner is complaining, to the NAC of all places, about “wasting” the equivalent of a little over half of one employee’s work hours.  At the same time, problems identified in IG report on EUS quality control and ML-2 schedule incompetence are shifting Artemis IV to the right by years, which is actually wasting literally millions of Artemis workforce hours.

Such unserious leadership and way out-of-whack values in ESDMD.

And such unserious advisors in the NAC.  As longtime observer Marcia Smith twittered after their last meeting:

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NAC-HEO ends early. Artemis is behind schedule, over cost, uncertain path forward on Orion heat shield, big problems w/ML-2 and Block IB, and their draft recs/findings are there should be fewer audits and they want to know more about NASA's 2040 plan.

It does not bode well for Artemis that both the ESDMD AA and the NAC are off chasing imagined enemies in the IG instead of dealing with actual program problems.
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #61 on: 09/28/2024 02:06 pm »
ML-2 status as of 28 September 2024 per Crew-8 stream

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #62 on: 10/27/2024 08:06 pm »
Phillip Sloss provides an update on the ML-2:

Time   Chapter name
07:51 Mobile Launcher-2 construction milestone: assembly of the umbilical tower "chair"


https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54243.msg2636824#msg2636824
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #63 on: 01/26/2025 11:57 am »

Phillip Sloss provides an update on the ML-2:

Time   Chapter name
09:46 Video of three-month old EUS Umbilical testing released


https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=58212.msg2659824#msg2659824
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #64 on: 03/10/2025 07:04 am »
Cross Post:

Phillip Sloss Report on the progress of ML-2:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=58212.msg2670510#msg2670510

Timestamps:
13:10 Mobile Launcher-2 umbilical tower module 5 stacking

The video link is queued here to that timestamp.

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #65 on: 04/09/2025 08:04 pm »
I think this is module 6

Only 7 to 10 remain

https://twitter.com/ENNEPS/status/1909712681398895080

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #66 on: 04/09/2025 09:16 pm »
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Mobile launcher 2 now stands approximately 240 feet tall and will grow another 150 feet as teams continue stacking...

https://twitter.com/NASAGroundSys/status/1910065536613892597

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #68 on: 04/14/2025 05:50 am »
Cross-Post to Phillip Sloss Weekly report:

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=62717.msg2679394#msg2679394


25:43 Mobile Launcher-2 umbilical tower module 6 stacked
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #69 on: 04/22/2025 07:44 pm »

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #70 on: 04/24/2025 08:45 pm »
https://twitter.com/ENNEPS/status/1914753568906645718

https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20250423-PH-KLS01_0003

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NASA’s mobile launcher 2 team, led by contractor Bechtel National Inc., integrated Module 7 onto the mobile launcher under construction near the Vehicle Assembly Building at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Wednesday, April 23, 2025. Each module is 40 feet tall and once complete will rise to 390 feet to provide ground support to launch for the SLS (Space Launch System) Block 1B variant rocket during launch of the Artemis IV mission.
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #71 on: 04/25/2025 07:48 pm »
https://www.nasa.gov/blogs/missions/2025/04/24/nasas-mobile-launcher-2-continues-to-grow/

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The tower of NASA’s mobile launcher 2 continues to rise with the addition of two new 40-foot-tall modules on April 22 at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The mobile launcher 2 team, led by Bechtel National Inc., has integrated modules 6 and 7, which are the third and fourth of seven sections that will form the mobile launcher’s almost 400-foot-tall tower structure. The mobile launcher currently is under construction next to the spaceport’s iconic Vehicle Assembly Building.

Module 6 is designed to support the vehicle stabilizer, an interface that helps reduce motion of the SLS (Space Launch System) rocket during rollout to the launch pad, in high wind events, and during launch countdown. The stabilizer will drop away from the larger SLS Block 1 B rocket at liftoff and is designed to support future SLS configurations and their varying load requirements.

Module 7 is the tower’s payload accommodation subsystem which will serve as the interface between SLS payloads and NASA Kennedy’s Launch Control Center, allowing the launch team to monitor, test, and issue commands to the SLS rocket and Orion flight hardware. Located within an air-conditioned steel shell and protected by launch-rated shock isolators, this subsystem also will provide payload access for personnel during pre- and post-launch operations.

Once complete, mobile launcher 2 will reach 390 feet and provide the support needed for the addition of the SLS Exploration Upper Stage for the Block 1B configuration of the rocket that will launch beginning with the Artemis IV mission.

https://twitter.com/NASAGroundSys/status/1915851638734033029
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #72 on: 05/19/2025 07:22 pm »
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16:48
back at KSC mobile launcher 2 Prime
contractor Becttel lifted the fifth of
seven umbilical tower modules into place
this past week module 8

something that was also noted but we
don't have any way of showing is that
Becttel also lifted the core stage
forward skirt umbilical arm for this
second mobile launcher into place on the
tower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oITBabTb_78

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #73 on: 05/19/2025 08:03 pm »
Why is Bechtel going faster all of a sudden?

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #74 on: 05/19/2025 08:08 pm »
Why is Bechtel going faster all of a sudden?

I'm not assuming it actually is going faster. The highly visible part is now happening, as the assembled modules are lifted into place. The assembly of those modules was being done someplace that wasn't quite so visible.
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #75 on: 05/19/2025 08:17 pm »
Why is Bechtel going faster all of a sudden?

From past year OIG report:

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Bechtel was initially contracted to design,
build, and test the ML-2 for $383 million and deliver it to NASA by March 2023. However, the contract
value has nearly tripled to $1.1 billion and the delivery date has been delayed by more than 3 years to
May 2026.


Cost and schedule estimates from both NASA and Bechtel for the ML-2 contract have changed several
times and increased significantly over time. NASA’s lack of an official baseline for the first 5 years of the
ML-2 project has limited visibility into its potential total cost and the information needed for Congress
and others to better hold the Agency accountable. In June 2024, NASA established a commitment to
Congress for a total ML-2 project cost of $1.8 billion and a delivery date of September 2027. We project,
however, that the ML-2’s total cost could reach $2.7 billion by the time Bechtel delivers the launcher to
NASA in 2027.

NASA officials are encouraged by recent progress as ML-2 project management reports the design is
nearly complete and the frame of the base structure and first tower module are complete. While
officials expect cost growth to lessen over time now that Bechtel has started construction of the
launcher, it is too soon to tell if these developments will have an impact on the overall cost growth and
schedule delays.

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #76 on: 05/22/2025 05:12 pm »
Okay, actually, they hadn't assembled module 8 yet.

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1925551848846397589

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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #77 on: 05/25/2025 04:52 am »
Phillip Sloss' weekly updated video includes an update/correction to his ML-2 report from last week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1heN-9cBlw#t=823s
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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #78 on: 06/01/2025 03:21 am »
The FY26 PBR cancels ML-2.

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NASA will close out Mobile Launcher-2 development, as ML-2 will not be needed to support SLS due to the orderly shutdown of the SLS Block 1B upgrade. NASA proposes to use previously appropriated unobligated balances to support the termination of these activities, including but not limited to, ongoing administration, oversight, and monitoring
[Pg. EXP-19 / Sheet 45]


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Re: ML-2 Updates and Discussion
« Reply #79 on: 06/02/2025 06:02 pm »
The FY26 PBR cancels ML-2.

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NASA will close out Mobile Launcher-2 development, as ML-2 will not be needed to support SLS due to the orderly shutdown of the SLS Block 1B upgrade. NASA proposes to use previously appropriated unobligated balances to support the termination of these activities, including but not limited to, ongoing administration, oversight, and monitoring
[Pg. EXP-19 / Sheet 45]

what a shambolic waste of time and money... they are going to waste further millions just to cancel and this structure will be left rotting in the elements.
this current govt administration is truly a disaster.
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