Would any of those small satellites have been able to return useful information from the asteroid belt though? Or are you thinking they'd have taken such a huge load of them that they'd all have been deposited in LEO?
Would any of those small satellites have been able to return useful information from the asteroid belt though?
Just by being "reachable" by DSN on a routine schedule (weekly, monthly, ... yearly) is a major achievement.(Those mentioned above are relay/comm in purpose.) As a science product, a simple SEP detector (about an ounce in weight including electronics) would return valuable solar wind science, useful in following missions.
EU space conferences, on any topic, evoke @SpaceX. Here's EU @GalileoGNSS director Matthias Petschke Mar 6 at #MunichSatnavSummit: 'Some global players are sending cars into space; we prefer to send satellites that help cars navigate on the ground.' @esa chief Woerner applauded.
Not laughing: @esa chief @janwoerner isn't only European who thinks @SpaceX Falcon Heavy Starman roadster-in-orbit headlines should have read: SpaceX Voluntarily Creates Orbital Debris.
QuoteNot laughing: @esa chief @janwoerner isn't only European who thinks @SpaceX Falcon Heavy Starman roadster-in-orbit headlines should have read: SpaceX Voluntarily Creates Orbital Debris.https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/971322796612702208
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 03/07/2018 09:00 amQuoteNot laughing: @esa chief @janwoerner isn't only European who thinks @SpaceX Falcon Heavy Starman roadster-in-orbit headlines should have read: SpaceX Voluntarily Creates Orbital Debris.https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/971322796612702208Obnoxious, sour grapes nonsense. Orbital debris is only controlled for "useful" orbits which is why disposing of satellites or rocket bodies into graveyard orbits is totally acceptable.
Quote from: deruch on 03/07/2018 09:38 amQuote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 03/07/2018 09:00 amQuoteNot laughing: @esa chief @janwoerner isn't only European who thinks @SpaceX Falcon Heavy Starman roadster-in-orbit headlines should have read: SpaceX Voluntarily Creates Orbital Debris.https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/971322796612702208Obnoxious, sour grapes nonsense. Orbital debris is only controlled for "useful" orbits which is why disposing of satellites or rocket bodies into graveyard orbits is totally acceptable. Indeed a clear and painful sign that upper management of ESA is not getting the intentions and immense progress SpaceX is bringing to the world of Spaceflight...ESA should not feel threatened but inspired and motivated to take advantage of the previously considered impossible options now proven possible and economically feasible..Not feeling too proud on 'our' ESA, being European
QuoteEU space conferences, on any topic, evoke @SpaceX. Here's EU @GalileoGNSS director Matthias Petschke Mar 6 at #MunichSatnavSummit: 'Some global players are sending cars into space; we prefer to send satellites that help cars navigate on the ground.' @esa chief Woerner applauded.https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/971320811230580737
Me neither. Just plain stupid remark by Jan given that ESA itself has voluntarily created orbital debris...
You did not get my message, unfortunately: I said that I admire how fast they could succeed in getting the Tesla on top of the launcher. And I said that I could not dare to send a car in space. I dont know whom you are quoting.JanESA - European Space AgencyProf. Dr.-Ing. Johann-Dietrich WörnerDirector General
Disbelief has settled into an anxious nervousness. Theory is now becoming practice. With Block-5 imminent and nothing ready to counter it, I'm afraid we'll hear more of these types of comments in the months and years to come.Just wait until the first Block-5 FH returns all 3 cores from a real mission. Or a Block 5 F9 core is flown 14 days post return. Or better yet, the first hop of the BFS. ESA/EU better get used to this nightmare. It's only going to get worse.
Quote from: woods170 on 03/07/2018 11:49 amMe neither. Just plain stupid remark by Jan given that ESA itself has voluntarily created orbital debris...FWIW I asked him about the remark, here's the answer:QuoteYou did not get my message, unfortunately: I said that I admire how fast they could succeed in getting the Tesla on top of the launcher. And I said that I could not dare to send a car in space. I dont know whom you are quoting.JanESA - European Space AgencyProf. Dr.-Ing. Johann-Dietrich WörnerDirector General
Quote from: Reflectiv on 03/07/2018 04:57 pmQuote from: woods170 on 03/07/2018 11:49 amMe neither. Just plain stupid remark by Jan given that ESA itself has voluntarily created orbital debris...FWIW I asked him about the remark, here's the answer:QuoteYou did not get my message, unfortunately: I said that I admire how fast they could succeed in getting the Tesla on top of the launcher. And I said that I could not dare to send a car in space. I dont know whom you are quoting.JanESA - European Space AgencyProf. Dr.-Ing. Johann-Dietrich WörnerDirector GeneralPeter B. de Selding is the reporter in question and he is not known for mis-quoting or mis-interpreting people.
Who should you believe, the person who is supposed to have said it but who says he didn't, or the reporter that reported it.
The tweet in question once more:Quote from: Peter B. de SeldingNot laughing: @esa chief @janwoerner isn't only European who thinks @SpaceX Falcon Heavy Starman roadster-in-orbit headlines should have read: SpaceX Voluntarily Creates Orbital Debris.https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/971322796612702208The ESA DG agreeing on the less-than-stellar alternative headline (even if it was just by applauding, not actually speaking) does not project favorable on the space-activities of his very own organisation, given that it has added to orbital debris, in a similar manner, not once but at least seven times.
BTW, did we ever hear definitively if they removed the roadster's battery pack? I have a hard time believing they'd launch with it unless they both needed the mass and electrical capacity and were certain it would pose no danger to the mission (such as via rupturing or exploding in vacuum).