Quote from: gongora on 06/13/2017 01:46 pmQuote from: HankinNM on 06/12/2017 09:55 pm I guess I'm missing something here (Is this OT??) I thought the plan was to build and launch from south Texas, or is this thread an exercise in speculation? I know it has just been 'reactivated', but thought they were headed this way (to south Texas) back in 2011.This thread is an exercise in speculation, but SpaceX has never specified where they are going to build the bigger stages. It's not really out of the question for initial production to happen in LA.I don't foresee them getting very far without dramatic developments and innovation with segmented carbon fiber pressure vessels, which sounds rather unlikely.
Quote from: HankinNM on 06/12/2017 09:55 pm I guess I'm missing something here (Is this OT??) I thought the plan was to build and launch from south Texas, or is this thread an exercise in speculation? I know it has just been 'reactivated', but thought they were headed this way (to south Texas) back in 2011.This thread is an exercise in speculation, but SpaceX has never specified where they are going to build the bigger stages. It's not really out of the question for initial production to happen in LA.
I guess I'm missing something here (Is this OT??) I thought the plan was to build and launch from south Texas, or is this thread an exercise in speculation? I know it has just been 'reactivated', but thought they were headed this way (to south Texas) back in 2011.
Quote from: RotoSequence on 06/13/2017 01:51 pmQuote from: gongora on 06/13/2017 01:46 pmQuote from: HankinNM on 06/12/2017 09:55 pm I guess I'm missing something here (Is this OT??) I thought the plan was to build and launch from south Texas, or is this thread an exercise in speculation? I know it has just been 'reactivated', but thought they were headed this way (to south Texas) back in 2011.This thread is an exercise in speculation, but SpaceX has never specified where they are going to build the bigger stages. It's not really out of the question for initial production to happen in LA.I don't foresee them getting very far without dramatic developments and innovation with segmented carbon fiber pressure vessels, which sounds rather unlikely.I'm not sure where you're coming from in any part of this post.They already have a 10m cf tank test item that has been pressure tested. What's the massive and unlikely leap left that you think they need?Source: http://tinyurl.com/ya4e7p3wEdit: tiny url
I'm not sure where you're coming from in any part of this post.They already have a 10m cf tank test item that has been pressure tested. What's the massive and unlikely leap left that you think they need?Source: http://tinyurl.com/ya4e7p3wEdit: tiny url
[...]that tank is in pieces as of a few months ago...https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/5ul1du/remains_of_the_its_composite_tank_in_anacortes_wa/
Quote from: S.Paulissen on 06/13/2017 05:20 pmI'm not sure where you're coming from in any part of this post.They already have a 10m cf tank test item that has been pressure tested. What's the massive and unlikely leap left that you think they need?Source: http://tinyurl.com/ya4e7p3wEdit: tiny urlAs tvg98 said: Quote from: tvg98 on 06/13/2017 05:29 pm[...]that tank is in pieces as of a few months ago...https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/5ul1du/remains_of_the_its_composite_tank_in_anacortes_wa/The unannounced destruction of their first structural test article suggests that the ITS' composite tanks will require some significant developments in multi-part composite structure fabrication to meet design strength, or the use of a one piece tank.
...Didn't SpaceX say they were going to build ITS at the launch site? They could still build the engines and some other at Hawthorne.
As I was driving yesterday down the 405 yesterday to the in-law's house for 4th of July. I couldn't help but notice the former S-II assembly building in Seal Beach. What is the conditions of the Former North American (Now Boeing) S-II assembly facilities in Seal Beach?
Looking at the factory floor now it's not that hard to imagine cores twice as wide. i.e., 7.5 m diameter, but what about length? Twice as long? Doesn't seem like there's room... maybe they'll need to extend the hangar?
Even then, I find it hard to imagine anything that big going south down the 110 to the Port of LA.
Is somebody ambitious enough to take a map of the area and highlight all the buildings owned by SpaceX?
Quote from: deruch on 06/18/2017 11:50 pmIs there any chance that one of the more graphically gifted NSFers would be willing to create a map of SpaceX's Hawthorne footprint similar to what DaveG has done for Boca Chica properties in TX? Incidentally, @Raul here at NSF has put together a Google Maps of SpaceX facilities. It has the two facilities that I mentioned above, so it's probably pretty comprehensive.https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1wvgFIPuOmI8da9EIB88tHo9vamo&hl
Is there any chance that one of the more graphically gifted NSFers would be willing to create a map of SpaceX's Hawthorne footprint similar to what DaveG has done for Boca Chica properties in TX?
LA airport where StratoLaunch could land.
Quote from: RotoSequence on 06/13/2017 05:46 pmQuote from: S.Paulissen on 06/13/2017 05:20 pmI'm not sure where you're coming from in any part of this post.They already have a 10m cf tank test item that has been pressure tested. What's the massive and unlikely leap left that you think they need?Source: http://tinyurl.com/ya4e7p3wEdit: tiny urlAs tvg98 said: Quote from: tvg98 on 06/13/2017 05:29 pm[...]that tank is in pieces as of a few months ago...https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/5ul1du/remains_of_the_its_composite_tank_in_anacortes_wa/The unannounced destruction of their first structural test article suggests that the ITS' composite tanks will require some significant developments in multi-part composite structure fabrication to meet design strength, or the use of a one piece tank.Just dredging this up after finally getting some insight into the tank failure.They most certainly did successfully make and test this tank.