Author Topic: Mainstream news coverage of Starship events (Read 131328 times)

hektor · « **Reply #120 on:** 05/08/2023 07:24 am »

SpaceX wants this supersized rocket to fly. But will investors send it to the Moon?

Zed_Noir · « **Reply #121 on:** 05/09/2023 01:45 am »

Quote from: hektor on 05/08/2023 07:24 am

SpaceX wants this supersized rocket to fly. But will investors send it to the Moon?

Quote from: NPR article extract

But Starship will take multiple years to bring to market, and it likely will need additional money, says analyst Chris Quilty. Given the troubles in the tech sector, it makes sense that SpaceX would try and stretch its existing cash for now. "SpaceX is probably betting that market conditions will be better next year," he says. But that strategy carries risks: If the economy slips into a prolonged recession, Quilty warns, "they could find themselves out of cash and out of runway."

Sigh, just who is going to launch most of the NASA, DoD & NRO payloads along with most of the commercial comsats for the next few years? Payloads that is already funded and in the pipeline. Mr Quilty's analysis seems to be too myopic, IMO.

Robotbeat · « **Reply #122 on:** 05/09/2023 03:10 am »

Who tf is this guy? Edit: Chris Quilty looks to be an analyst specializing in the space sector.

BTW, Ed Kyle, your old website statistics were super good. You could get a side gig as an analyst and beat most of these guys.

EDIT: Caleb Henry was a pretty good journalist, now working for Quilty, so that's something in favor of them...

...however, I'm not really sure it's all about capital-raises right now. Launch is normally not a huge money maker, but Falcon 9 OWNS the market at the moment, everyone is going to SpaceX for launch (even Europe), and Starlink is starting to hold its own on revenue, so I honestly don't know that they actually need to do a capital raise soon.

Eric Hedman · « **Reply #123 on:** 05/09/2023 03:22 am »

Quote from: Robotbeat on 05/09/2023 03:10 am

Who tf is this guy

Here is his bio: https://www.npr.org/people/279612138/geoff-brumfiel

catdlr · « **Reply #124 on:** 05/09/2023 03:24 am »

Quote from: Robotbeat on 05/09/2023 03:10 am

Who tf is this guy

https://www.quiltyanalytics.com/about-quilty-analytics/chris-quilty/

Here is the bases of the article from this video

Robotbeat · « **Reply #125 on:** 05/09/2023 03:47 am »

Actually, that article had a ton of really good analysts on there. McDowell (who definitely knows what he's talking about), Lori Garver, etc. I think Carissa Christensen of BryceTech is right here:
""SpaceX has consistently raised money – and even in this more constrained environment seems to be able to raise substantial amounts," says Carissa Christensen, the CEO of BryceTech, an analytics and engineering firm."

It's really hard to exaggerate just how far ahead SpaceX is with Falcon 9 alone (and how much hardware they had to blow up to get to the reuse moat they have now). This isn't Astra; SpaceX is launching around twice a week, sometimes with two of the 3 biggest rockets in the world, and in nearly every other case don't need to expend anything but the upper stage. They are making pretty substantial money from this, from Dragon, from Starlink.

Overall, a good article.

Eric Hedman · « **Reply #126 on:** 05/09/2023 01:42 pm »

StarLink has now reached 1.5 million subscribers: https://www.neowin.net/news/starlink-now-has-more-than-15-million-subscribers-globally/

I can imagine that is becoming a significant revenue stream for them. Of course we don't know how much their costs are for delivering this service. I imagine this growth would draw in more investors if they need them because of the potential for making a lot of money.

Eric Hedman · « **Reply #127 on:** 05/09/2023 02:13 pm »

When the mainstream media covers space topics, I'm not surprised when they get some basic things wrong just like they do at times on other topics. When they don't follow an industry regularly, they just don't know a lot of the details us space junkies do to ask the right questions. They do however get access at times that the space niche media do not.

A couple of years ago, I had a chance encounter and a conversation about space with Soledad O'Brien https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soledad_O'Brien. I was having a conversation with a friend at an outdoor cafe who asked me, "What's going on in space these days?" just as she walked by and overheard the question. That led to a half hour very interesting conversation with her. She had just filmed an episode for her show All that Matters, nationally syndicated through Hearst, where she had interviewed Bob Cabana at KSC and had filmed inside the factory making satellites for OneWeb. I never saw the episode to judge how well done it was. What I do like when the mainstream media covers space is that they tend to get access to things we often wouldn't otherwise see. When they do get things wrong, it's not unexpected considering it's often out of their wheelhouse.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #128 on:** 07/08/2023 02:37 pm »

catdlr · « **Reply #129 on:** 11/21/2023 08:00 am »

Starship Just Took One Step Closer to Mars

StevenOBrien · « **Reply #130 on:** 11/21/2023 01:48 pm »

Quote from: catdlr on 11/21/2023 08:00 am

Starship Just Took One Step Closer to Mars

Just to clarify, Newsthink isn't mainstream news. It's a tech-focused video essay channel run by one woman, and a significant number of her videos are Elon Musk-related.

steveleach · « **Reply #131 on:** 11/21/2023 02:45 pm »

The BBC pinged me about it at the time, but I forgot to mention it here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67462116

catdlr · « **Reply #132 on:** 11/21/2023 08:32 pm »

Quote from: StevenOBrien on 11/21/2023 01:48 pm

Quote from: catdlr on 11/21/2023 08:00 am
Starship Just Took One Step Closer to Mars

Just to clarify, Newsthink isn't mainstream news. It's a tech-focused video essay channel run by one woman, and a significant number of her videos are Elon Musk-related.

StevenOBrien
Agreed, I just didn't know where to post that.

leovinus · « **Reply #133 on:** 11/21/2023 08:47 pm »

From Deutsche Welle (DW), a long way to go before Germany has a more constructive and positive view of (space) tech innovation in progress. Really funny to see another DW article a day later that they still want to be an engine of innovation in Europe, the irony.
https://www.dw.com/en/spacex-starship-rocket-explodes-on-second-test-flight/video-67481286

edzieba · « **Reply #134 on:** 11/22/2023 10:55 am »

Quote from: steveleach on 11/21/2023 02:45 pm

The BBC pinged me about it at the time, but I forgot to mention it here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67462116

They also reported on the launch in real-time.

thespacecow · « **Reply #135 on:** 07/22/2025 04:22 am »

Just put this here for future reference: Is Elon Musk’s Starship Doomed? The future of SpaceX keeps blowing up, and no one knows if he can fix it.

meekGee · « **Reply #136 on:** 07/22/2025 05:08 am »

Quote from: thespacecow on 07/22/2025 04:22 am

Just put this here for future reference: Is Elon Musk’s Starship Doomed? The future of SpaceX keeps blowing up, and no one knows if he can fix it.

The article is nowhere near as bad as the headline.

Oersted · « **Reply #137 on:** 07/22/2025 10:11 pm »

Yes, somehow mainstream newsmedia coverage of SpaceX changed in tone, I wonder why...? I mean, they were always blowing up test campaign rockets, that didn't change.... :-)

Coastal Ron · « **Reply #138 on:** 07/22/2025 10:31 pm »

Quote from: Oersted on 07/22/2025 10:11 pm

Yes, somehow mainstream newsmedia coverage of SpaceX changed in tone, I wonder why...? I mean, they were always blowing up test campaign rockets, that didn't change.... :-)

Not sure if you have noticed, but there is a LOT of other stuff going on that is worthy of national conversations...

Seriously though, the vast amount of media is profit driven, which for those media outlets that try to do "hard news" means that they need to not only report facts, but also make it sound interesting. And sometimes even good media can have bad reporting, so for me at least I tend to multi-source my information.

But then there is "biased media", which does "news" with a specific viewpoint that all "facts" are filtered through. We all have our own list of who those are (and no, don't go down that rabbit hole

), and if anything we all should be avoiding those as sources of any information, including anything having to do with SpaceX. Not only because of their institutional bias, but also because they would have low quality "reporters" that would NOT have the ability to do in-depth reporting, regardless the topic.

Also, the media tends to report on things that are "new", and once something is normalized (i.e. people dying of starvation, dying from shootings, dying from being poor, etc.), it doesn't rise to the point of reporting. Starship Ship failures may have reached that point, in that there were a number in a row that failed, so what's new?

Wait until a Ship succeeds to a point that it hasn't yet, and see what the coverage is like. Likely positive because of all of the prior failures.

alugobi · « **Reply #139 on:** 07/22/2025 11:22 pm »

Quote from: Coastal Ron on 07/22/2025 10:31 pm

Wait until a Ship succeeds to a point that it hasn't yet, and see what the coverage is like. Likely positive because of all of the prior failures.

By 'positive', I think you mean crickets.