Quote from: ugordan on 02/13/2024 04:18 pmThe fact that I'm slightly concerned about specific LV config flight history does not imply that I think it should have gone onto another vehicle.The only plausible alternate launcher is the Delta IV Heavy with a kick stage, IMO. However it is pricey and somewhat lacking in performance when compared to the Falcon Heavy.
The fact that I'm slightly concerned about specific LV config flight history does not imply that I think it should have gone onto another vehicle.
Quote from: Zed_Noir on 02/13/2024 10:33 pmQuote from: ugordan on 02/13/2024 04:18 pmThe fact that I'm slightly concerned about specific LV config flight history does not imply that I think it should have gone onto another vehicle.The only plausible alternate launcher is the Delta IV Heavy with a kick stage, IMO. However it is pricey and somewhat lacking in performance when compared to the Falcon Heavy.The single remaining Delta IV heavy is scheduled to launch NROL-70 on 14 March 2024. ULA announced that this was the last one before retirement, and as I understand it ULA can no longer produce any more.<snip>
OK, we are apparently trying to identify what is most likely to degrade or kill the mission. You are focusing on a potential problem associated with this particular FH configuration, and of course you may be correct. I would be more concerned about solar array and antenna deployment problems, given recent BLEO experiences. With no inside information, my concern has no particular validity. FH has launched 9 times. Its configurations are quite similar to each other. Europa Clipper has never launched before, so it's actual characteristics have not been validated in space.
The only plausible alternate launcher is the Delta IV Heavy with a kick stage, IMO. However it is pricey and somewhat lacking in performance when compared to the Falcon Heavy.
Quote from: DanClemmensen on 02/12/2024 06:51 pmOK, we are apparently trying to identify what is most likely to degrade or kill the mission. You are focusing on a potential problem associated with this particular FH configuration, and of course you may be correct. I would be more concerned about solar array and antenna deployment problems, given recent BLEO experiences. With no inside information, my concern has no particular validity. FH has launched 9 times. Its configurations are quite similar to each other. Europa Clipper has never launched before, so it's actual characteristics have not been validated in space.One topic I'd be curious on: how does the (expected) radiation exposure for 'Clipper compare against Juno? Juno, largely because of its orbit, has held up remarkably well against Jupiter and even throwing in bonus flybys of Io which was probably the last thing it was designed to handle. Juno's been threading the eye of the hurricane whereas 'Clipper will have to pass through the storm, for a crude analogy. Will 'Clipper have half the luck Juno had in avoiding radiation damage in all its horrors?
KSC-20240227-PH-LNL01_0007 Technicians hoist a five-panel solar array protected by a lid for NASA’s Europa Clipper spacecraft at the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Tuesday, Feb. 27, 2024. The arrays are each 46.5 feet long (14.2 meters). With both solar arrays deployed, Europa Clipper will span more than 100 feet long, about the length of a basketball court. The solar arrays power the spacecraft so it can study Jupiter’s icy moon, Europa, which is more than five times as far from the Sun as the Earth. Launch on a SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket is no earlier than October 2024. Photo credit: NASA/Leejay Lockhart
KSC-20240227-PH-LNL01_0004 Technicians hoist a five-panel solar array protected by a lid for NASA’s Europa Clipper spacecraft at the Payload Hazardous Servicing Facility at the agency’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida on Tuesday, Feb. 27, 2024. The arrays are each 46.5 feet long (14.2 meters). With both solar arrays deployed, Europa Clipper will span more than 100 feet long, about the length of a basketball court. The solar arrays power the spacecraft so it can study Jupiter’s icy moon, Europa, which is more than five times as far from the Sun as the Earth. Launch on a SpaceX Falcon Heavy rocket is no earlier than October 2024. Photo credit: NASA/Leejay Lockhart
One topic I'd be curious on: how does the (expected) radiation exposure for 'Clipper compare against Juno? Juno, largely because of its orbit, has held up remarkably well against Jupiter and even throwing in bonus flybys of Io which was probably the last thing it was designed to handle. Juno's been threading the eye of the hurricane whereas 'Clipper will have to pass through the storm, for a crude analogy. Will 'Clipper have half the luck Juno had in avoiding radiation damage in all its horrors?
I believe that’s a 2014 paper.
Juno’s vault is 10 mm thick titanium, Europa Clipper’s is 9.2 mm aluminum-zinc alloy.
Quote from: matthewkantar on 03/04/2024 08:03 pmJuno’s vault is 10 mm thick titanium, Europa Clipper’s is 9.2 mm aluminum-zinc alloy.Do those differ much in shielding terms? Everyone knows about lead, but of course it's too heavy for spaceflight.
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Exploring the icy moons of Saturn and Jupiter has long been a focal point for scientists in the quest for extraterrestrial life. According to new research, even microscopic amounts of cellular material ejected from moons or exoplanets could reveal signs of life to the instruments on missions slated for the near future.This fascinating study, conducted by researchers from the University of Washington in Seattle and Freie Universität Berlin, offers promising insights for these upcoming exploration missions.
The Europa Clipper’s SUrface Dust Analyzer represents a leap forward in space exploration instruments, capable of detecting negatively charged ions and better suited for identifying fatty acids and lipids. Klenner finds the prospect of searching for lipids more exciting than searching for DNA’s building blocks due to their stability.Senior author Frank Postberg from Freie Universität Berlin concludes, “With suitable instrumentation, such as the SUrface Dust Analyzer on NASA’s Europa Clipper space probe, it might be easier than we thought to find life, or traces of it, on icy moons.”This optimistic outlook hinges on the presence of life and its incorporation into ice grains from subsurface water reservoirs, paving the way for exciting discoveries in the search for extraterrestrial life.