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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #40 on: 02/02/2007 02:09 pm »
A question about the cosmodromes: Baykonur is GIK-5, Kapustin Yar is GTsP-4, Plesetsk is GIK-1, Svobodniy is GIK-2... what about Dombarovskiy?

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #41 on: 02/02/2007 03:40 pm »
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A question about the cosmodromes: Baykonur is GIK-5, Kapustin Yar is GTsP-4, Plesetsk is GIK-1, Svobodniy is GIK-2... what about Dombarovskiy?

Dombarovskiy cosmodrome has not such designation... Dombarovskiy is simply the name of 13th Rocket Division (near Yasniy city in Orenburg region) of Russia's Strategic Rocket Forces...

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #42 on: 02/03/2007 11:21 pm »
Is there information where the Oural program is going now? The one where they are looking at hydrocarbon engines with the French?

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #43 on: 02/09/2007 02:33 pm »
Does anyone have detailed information about the consolidation of the Russia space industry?  There was some press about consolidation in July 2006 including with NPO PM in a new Information Satellite Systems and some consolidation under Khrunichev among others.  I understand a presidential decree was signed earlier this week to finalize some of these changes.  Anyone know which companies are where now?
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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #44 on: 02/09/2007 02:40 pm »
I can only offer you a bit of news on the consolidation under Krunichev, its in this rather large pdf-file The biggest advantage of the consolidation is that they can invest in the C-58/59M engine manufacturer. Currently the number of Breeze M and Fregat upper stages that can be launched are limited due to inadequate capacity.

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #45 on: 02/09/2007 02:43 pm »
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Does anyone have detailed information about the consolidation of the Russia space industry? There was some press about consolidation in July 2006 including with NPO PM in a new Information Satellite Systems and some consolidation under Khrunichev among others. I understand a presidential decree was signed earlier this week to finalize some of these changes. Anyone know which companies are where now?

Quotes from http://www.khrunichev.ru/khrunichev_eng/live/full_news.asp?id=14717

"Four Russian launch vehicle and spacecraft component manufacturers were consolidated under the control of Khrunichev Space Center this month by presidential decree.
 
On February 3, 2007, the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin signed Decree #127, On the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "The M.V. Khrunichev Space Research & Production Center."

Under the Decree, four state-run rocket and space enterprises become branches of the Khrunichev Space Center. These are the Voronezh Mechanical Plant, A.M.Isaev Chemical Engineering Design Bureau (also known as "Khimmash," in Korolev, Moscow Region), Moscow Enterprise for Equipment Configuration "Dlina" and Production Association "Polyot" (in Omsk.)"

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #46 on: 02/09/2007 03:40 pm »
Polyot is the producer of the Cosmos 3M, I know that production was suspended for some time in the 1990s to get rid of a huge backlog of spare rockets. Has production restarted already, considering that they have quitte a number of launches scheduled. I wonder whether there will be a shift, from Cosmos 3M to Rockot, now that both competition rockets are produced by centres controlled by Khrunichev Space Center.
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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #47 on: 02/09/2007 04:21 pm »
What's Dlina?

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #48 on: 02/09/2007 06:03 pm »
Also, does anyone know if Energomash or RSC Energia are going to be consolidated?

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #49 on: 02/09/2007 06:05 pm »
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Also, does anyone know if Energomash or RSC Energia are going to be consolidated?

They already were at one time in the 80's and split back up.  

It would be highly doubtful.  Rocket engines are a small part of  Energomash's business

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #50 on: 02/14/2007 03:10 pm »
FYI, Khrunichev held a press conference on Monday.  Two articles covering it are available here:
http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=11244467&PageNum=0

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070212/russia_rockets.html?.v=1

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #51 on: 02/14/2007 03:48 pm »
Here is another press release, by ILS themselves link
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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #52 on: 02/28/2007 03:14 pm »
I'm trying to confirm the mission ot the Cosmos 21 (3MV-1A No. 2) probe launched 11 November 1963. Was this a Mars or a Venus fly-by mission. Internet sources differ on this. Thanks!

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #53 on: 02/28/2007 04:56 pm »
It was a test launch, testing design space probes. Kosmos-21's target was to photograph the back side of the Moon. The overall design was intended to Venus flyby.

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #54 on: 02/28/2007 05:28 pm »
But Kosmos-21 had a designation 3MV-1A (No. 1.) I summarize:
Design: Venus flyby space probe.
Target: Test of systems of a space probe, photographing the back side of the Moon. Simulated Mars flyby.


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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #55 on: 02/28/2007 11:21 pm »
So, it had a double porpuse and it was used to test techniques for both the venusian and mars probes!

Thank you very much! Your comments were very useful! :)

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #56 on: 03/02/2007 12:31 pm »
I'm searching for actual images of the soviet Mars probes and their launches (not the models that are available on the web). Any help would be great! Thanks!

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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #57 on: 03/03/2007 03:35 am »
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I'm searching for actual images of the soviet Mars probes and their launches (not the models that are available on the web). Any help would be great! Thanks!

How about the 2MV:  http://www.russianspaceweb.com/1m_2.jpg


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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #58 on: 03/27/2007 04:18 pm »
Question about Tsyklon-2 launches:

For the naval reconnaissance satellite launches, such as Cosmos 2383, 2405, etc, the "initial orbit" is typically 425 X 410 km (more or less). However, the upper stage of the Tsyklon is invariably reported as decaying the first day of launch. This means that either the upper stage performs an immediate de-orbit burn (since objects in 400 km orbits don't decay naturally in 24 hours) or the payload immediately after separation maneuvers to the higher orbit, which is odd, since the launch announcement gives the orbital data as the "initial orbit" not the working orbit.  

So, is the "initial" orbit really the initial orbit, and if so, does the Tskylon-2 somehow de-orbit itself immediately, and if so, why?


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Re: Soviet/Russian space programs Q&A
« Reply #59 on: 03/27/2007 04:49 pm »
The answer from Jonathan's Space Report No. 566:

Kosmos-2421
A Russian Navy US-PU satellite for ocean electronic surveillance was launched from Baykonur on Jun 25 and codenamed Kosmos-2421. The Tsiklon-2 rocket put it in an approximately 100 x 400 km transfer orbit, and the US-PU onboard engine performed the insertion burn to a 405 x 415 km x 65.0 deg operational orbit.

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