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We are delighted to confirm that we have entered into a multi-launch agreement with @RelativitySpace. Under the agreement, Relativity will launch satellites on Terran R, the first fully reusable and entirely 3D printed rocket..

https://twitter.com/OneWeb/status/1544703503934930946

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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.

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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.
Oh I remember. But this was after Grasshopper and F9RDev had done some successful flights. I was fairly confident it would eventually work and I was a bit mad at the time they picked expendable rockets, particularly Soyuz (this was /right/ after Russia’s FIRST Ukraine invasion in 2014) and without even the attempt to be reusable… it ended up biting them hard when Russia invaded Ukraine again and then stole their launcher and marooned their satellites.

But that’s in the past. Looks like they’re interested in being part of the future.
« Last Edit: 07/08/2022 06:01 am by Robotbeat »
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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.

But that’s in the past. Looks like they’re interested WERE FORCED in being part of the future.

Made a small correction in quoting you above.
« Last Edit: 07/08/2022 06:52 am by M.E.T. »

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Seems Oneweb not only have the indian agency launching this year, but have snagged spaceX in December.

https://twitter.com/pbdes/status/1545325655260372993

https://www.spacelaunchschedule.com/launch/falcon-9-block-5-oneweb-14/

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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?

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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?
Recession and other priorities might but not the removal of Bojo itself.  There were many other fly the flag ministers besides Bojo.

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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.

But that’s in the past. Looks like they’re interested WERE FORCED in being part of the future.

Made a small correction in quoting you above.
They had the ability to swallow their pride and change course. Some would’ve rather closed up shop than do that, so I applaud them anyway.
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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.

But that’s in the past. Looks like they’re interested WERE FORCED in being part of the future.

Made a small correction in quoting you above.
They were forced to find other launch slots, but not forced to go to SpaceX. As evidenced by their signing contracts with other launch providers too, like Relativity and NSI. No longer having Wyler at the reigns certainly helped.

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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.

But that’s in the past. Looks like they’re interested WERE FORCED in being part of the future.

Made a small correction in quoting you above.
They were forced to find other launch slots, but not forced to go to SpaceX. As evidenced by their signing contracts with other launch providers too, like Relativity and NSI. No longer having Wyler at the reigns certainly helped.
They will be going back to SpaceX eventually. Just don't see Relativity ramp up launcher production fast enough to avoid that. Never mind that Relativity doesn't have an operational launcher yet.

The Indians push off their launch manifest to accumulated OneWeb with at least 2 GSLV MkIII. Will be interesting how the Indians can make up for the loss of the GSLV Mk III launch opportunities. Which many of ISRO's prestige programs need.


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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?

It wouldn't matter much at this point.  The UK government only has like 20% now.

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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?

It wouldn't matter much at this point.  The UK government only has like 20% now.

Wait what? Obviously I haven't been following the OneWeb saga closely enough, but what happened to the other ~30%?

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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?

It wouldn't matter much at this point.  The UK government only has like 20% now.

Wait what? Obviously I haven't been following the OneWeb saga closely enough, but what happened to the other ~30%?

My guess: dilution -- unless I'm missing something, OneWeb has probably continued raising money after their initial recovery. If the UK didn't continue investing, their existing shares would get diluted by subsequent funding rounds.

~Jon
« Last Edit: 07/09/2022 05:04 pm by jongoff »

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Very good to hear! My main gripe with OneWeb has always been they're using ANCIENT expendable rockets, robbing reusable rockets of potential payloads. Now, they've fixed that and are helping to support the only other near(ish)-term fully reusable rocket (plus New Glenn, maybe) besides Starship. This is perfect!

Fully reusable rockets fundamentally need lots of launch demand to be justified, preferably in LEO. This does exactly that. Glad to hear it.
OneWeb locked in a bulk order for Soyuz launches in 2014, before any Falcon 9 booster has ever successfully landed. OneWeb's schedule slipped, but the rocket order was already in place.

But that’s in the past. Looks like they’re interested WERE FORCED in being part of the future.

Made a small correction in quoting you above.
They were forced to find other launch slots, but not forced to go to SpaceX. As evidenced by their signing contracts with other launch providers too, like Relativity and NSI. No longer having Wyler at the reigns certainly helped.
They will be going back to SpaceX eventually. Just don't see Relativity ramp up launcher production fast enough to avoid that. Never mind that Relativity doesn't have an operational launcher yet.

The Indians push off their launch manifest to accumulated OneWeb with at least 2 GSLV MkIII. Will be interesting how the Indians can make up for the loss of the GSLV Mk III launch opportunities. Which many of ISRO's prestige programs need.

The SLV's have barely launched in 3 years. They must have quite the backlog already

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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?

It wouldn't matter much at this point.  The UK government only has like 20% now.

Given Rogozen's demands that the UK divest of its shares in OneWeb, any UK politician who calls for such a divestiture would look like a stooge of the Russians. Not the best target to paste on your back, at this time. 
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OneWeb backs up Starlink 5G interference warning

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Plans to use the 12 GHz band for terrestrial 5G would severely disrupt non-geostationary orbit (NGSO) broadband across the United States, OneWeb said July 11 in analysis supporting an earlier study from SpaceX.

In a letter to the Federal Communications Commission, OneWeb urged the regulator to reject a request from satellite broadcaster Dish Network and spectrum holder RS Access to run two-way mobile services in the band.

If approved, “it would leave significant areas of the United States unusable by the otherwise ubiquitous NGSO [fixed satellite service] user terminals,” wrote Kimberly Baum, OneWeb’s vice president of spectrum engineering and strategy.

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Does folks think the demise of PM Boris Johnson have any effects on the support of OneWeb by the UK government?

It wouldn't matter much at this point.  The UK government only has like 20% now.

Wait what? Obviously I haven't been following the OneWeb saga closely enough, but what happened to the other ~30%?

My guess: dilution -- unless I'm missing something, OneWeb has probably continued raising money after their initial recovery. If the UK didn't continue investing, their existing shares would get diluted by subsequent funding rounds.

~Jon

Yes, they have raised quite a bit with equity sales since leaving bankruptcy.
https://spacenews.com/eutelsat-ups-its-oneweb-stake-with-additional-165-million/

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https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1549961916344582144

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OneWeb SL0251 reentered sometime between 1100 and 1300 UTC Jul 20.  The satellite was never raised to the OW operational shells; orbit lowering began in May . Of 428 satellites launched, this is the second to reenter.

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