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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #320 on: 08/25/2017 10:48 am »
Anew book out written by Erik seedhouse and franklin chang Diaz. It has the upto date story on Vasimr and the upcoming 100 hr test which should lead to test in space by 2020.   https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mars-Beyond-Fast-Revolutionize-Exploration/dp/3319229176

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #321 on: 10/25/2017 03:17 pm »
http://akaerospace.com/news/commercial-rocket-launches-coming-kodiak-island
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Ad Astra, a Texas-based aerospace company specializing in advanced plasma rocket propulsion technology, is contracted to launch from PSCA in late January or early February, he said. He said Kodiak may see “robust activity” from the company moving forward.

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #322 on: 10/25/2017 07:53 pm »
http://akaerospace.com/news/commercial-rocket-launches-coming-kodiak-island
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Ad Astra, a Texas-based aerospace company specializing in advanced plasma rocket propulsion technology, is contracted to launch from PSCA in late January or early February, he said. He said Kodiak may see “robust activity” from the company moving forward.

Have they got the right year on this launch?
The VASIMR 100 hour ground test is due in February 2018. The money for launch has to be acquired and construction of the propulsion module needs to occur.

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« Reply #323 on: 11/05/2017 09:39 am »
http://akaerospace.com/news/commercial-rocket-launches-coming-kodiak-island
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Ad Astra, a Texas-based aerospace company specializing in advanced plasma rocket propulsion technology, is contracted to launch from PSCA in late January or early February, he said. He said Kodiak may see “robust activity” from the company moving forward.

Have they got the right year on this launch?
The VASIMR 100 hour ground test is due in February 2018. The money for launch has to be acquired and construction of the propulsion module needs to occur.
Indeed.

That timeline for 2018 only works out if the results have been very consistent and an investor group is happy to go ahead without it running to completion.

Which is a good investor to have, if you can find such people. They tend to be quite rare.
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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #324 on: 11/05/2017 05:01 pm »
http://akaerospace.com/news/commercial-rocket-launches-coming-kodiak-island
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Ad Astra, a Texas-based aerospace company specializing in advanced plasma rocket propulsion technology, is contracted to launch from PSCA in late January or early February, he said. He said Kodiak may see “robust activity” from the company moving forward.

Have they got the right year on this launch?
The VASIMR 100 hour ground test is due in February 2018. The money for launch has to be acquired and construction of the propulsion module needs to occur.
Indeed.

That timeline for 2018 only works out if the results have been very consistent and an investor group is happy to go ahead without it running to completion.

Which is a good investor to have, if you can find such people. They tend to be quite rare.

So does they mean, Ad Astra will (finally) have V.A.S.I.M.R launched into space? I hope this is true.

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #325 on: 11/05/2017 06:25 pm »

So does they mean, Ad Astra will (finally) have V.A.S.I.M.R launched into space? I hope this is true.
The implication is that yes they will launch something next year. Beyond that, who knows?
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« Reply #326 on: 12/09/2018 12:02 am »
I far I as I know, this is latest news for Ad Astra and VASIMR:

- Hydrogen bus has been researched and developed. Could be still researching and developing.
- Increase in funding from the Canadian Space Agency
- In the third year of the VASIMR - VX-200 SS engine.

Has there been any recent news? I have looked around.

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« Reply #327 on: 03/27/2019 02:34 pm »
https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1110671820947116032
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Ended a long day by visiting with Franklin Chang-Diaz at Ad Astra Rocket. They're not ready to talk publicly about recent progress, but may have some pretty big news in a few weeks regarding their VASIMR engine.
Thoughts on what the news could be?

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #328 on: 03/27/2019 04:34 pm »
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Ended a long day by visiting with Franklin Chang-Diaz at Ad Astra Rocket. They're not ready to talk publicly about recent progress, but may have some pretty big news in a few weeks regarding their VASIMR engine.
Thoughts on what the news could be?

Four possibilities come to mind. The first is that Ad Astra has successfully completed the 100 hour burn of the VASIMR. The second is that they have a new contract with NASA for the next stage of testing. The third is someone is buying a VASIMR to install in a spacecraft. The fourth is all of the above.

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #329 on: 12/22/2019 10:54 pm »
Building the Engine That Will Take Us to Mars

Great Big Story
Dec 17, 2019

Franklin Chang Díaz is a pioneer. As a child, he dreamed of going into space. As an adult, he made his wish come true. Diaz was the first naturalized U.S. citizen from Latin America to become an astronaut. After making seven trips into space, the MIT-educated Díaz retired from NASA and set his sights on speeding up the journey to Mars. A trip using chemical-powered rockets takes nine months—Díaz has developed a plasma-propelled engine that he says will cut the journey down to just over one month. We visit Ad Astra Rocket Company in Webster, Texas, to see the project Díaz has been working on for 40 years.

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #330 on: 01/04/2020 06:26 pm »
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Ended a long day by visiting with Franklin Chang-Diaz at Ad Astra Rocket. They're not ready to talk publicly about recent progress, but may have some pretty big news in a few weeks regarding their VASIMR engine.
Thoughts on what the news could be?

Four possibilities come to mind. The first is that Ad Astra has successfully completed the 100 hour burn of the VASIMR. The second is that they have a new contract with NASA for the next stage of testing. The third is someone is buying a VASIMR to install in a spacecraft. The fourth is all of the above.

5th None of any
Or did I miss the "pretty big news"?
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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #331 on: 01/24/2020 06:01 pm »
http://www.adastrarocket.com//pressReleases/2020/AdAstraPressReleaseJan232020_final_photo.pdf

PRESS RELEASE 012320, JANUARY 23, 2020
Aethera’s New RF Power Processing Unit for the VASIMR Engine Successfully Completes Full Power
Vacuum and Magnetic Field Tests at Ad Astra Rocket Company’s Texas Facility.
[Webster, Texas USA and Halifax, NS, Canada] – For Immediate Release – A new generation radio-frequency
(RF) Power Processing Unit (PPU) for the VASIMR engine, built for Ad Astra Rocket Company by Aethera
Technologies Ltd. of Canada, has completed a full-power test in vacuum at Ad Astra’s Texas facility near
Houston. The test, conducted on January 20th
, involved operating the unit in hard vacuum and thermal steadystate at its full power rating of 120 kW. As part of the test, the PPU was also subjected to the magnetic field of
the VASIMR engine to verify that there is no magnetic effect on the PPU performance.
With this test, Ad Astra successfully completed one of the three remaining major technology milestones in the
NextSTEP Partnership Program contract with NASA for the maturation of the VASIMR engine. With these
results, the VASIMR system is now fully positioned at technology readiness level (TRL) 5; that is, all critical
engine components have now been operated at full power in a relevant environment under vacuum.
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Two milestones now remain in Ad Astra’s queue and are planned for completion this spring. These involve longduration 100 kW firings of the VX-200SS VASIMR test article; one for 5-6 hours to demonstrate thermal control
of the engine and a second, for 100 hours, to estimate component life. Upon completion of these milestones, Ad
Astra will move to the next technology maturation phase: the development of a TRL-6 VASIMR engine for a
space test.
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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #332 on: 05/11/2021 09:04 pm »
I just found this the other day from February of this year. I think it includes an update:

https://thecostaricanews.com/tico-scientist-franklin-chang-diazs-plasma-engine-at-a-historic-test-step-in-space/

The article states that they will be ready for an in-space demonstration in 2023 and quotes Dr. Diazs:

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After decades of arduous study and work, the plasma engine called Vasimr and conceived by the Costa Rican scientist Franklin Chang-Díaz, would be ready to carry out the first tests in space starting in 2023. This was confirmed by the also retired astronaut.

“Technology develops in steps. We are now on the fifth step and we almost finished it. The sixth is the one that allows us to test the technology in space. That requires an expansion of the works. Things are not so difficult anymore, but they are expensive”, he explained.

I believe that this means they're still at TRL 5. If I'm reading the article correctly, they have only one milestone to go before they're technologically ready to proceed to TRL 6 (funding permitting):

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Thanks to these advances, the company began, at the beginning of last January, a new round to attract investment, which would be done in two stages for a total of $ 32 million. However, there is still a final step to complete that “fifth step”.

In March 2015, the company announced the signing of a contract with the United States Space Agency (NASA, for its acronym in English). This agreement established a total of 55 milestones, or approved requirements, that the Variable Specific Impulse Magnetoplasma Engine (Vasimr) had to meet, before even thinking of surpassing the stratosphere.

Less than six years later, that moment could be near. The Costa Rican scientist informed that, at the end of December last year, they managed to complete the penultimate milestone, after the results obtained were validated by NASA.

“It is a milestone that we had pursued a long time ago. Be able to fire the engine for continuous times, hours, and verify that none of the critical engine components are overheating. We reached a stable state. “We are now in pursuit of the final milestone, which is a long-duration shot. It is 100 kilowatts, 100 continuous hours. Basically a week, 24 hours a day, shooting continuously ”.

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #333 on: 07/13/2021 03:21 pm »
Looks like Ad Astra has a working Vasimr they have ran it for 28 hours (not days) at 82.5 kw.

Press Release - https://www.adastrarocket.com/pressReleases/2021/20210709-PressRelease.pdf

https://twitter.com/SciGuySpace/status/1414965116148371462
« Last Edit: 07/24/2021 12:38 pm by mrhuggy »

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« Reply #334 on: 07/15/2021 06:50 pm »
28 HOURS, not 28 days.

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« Reply #335 on: 07/16/2021 01:55 am »
The bigger challenge for now seems to be the intended power level of 100 kW, not the duration.

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“We could have easily surpassed the 28-hour record but chose to stop our test to give the team a much- needed rest and a chance to celebrate the July 4th holiday”

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“We have more work to do to reach the design power of 100 kW, but these last few weeks have demonstrated significant progress“

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #336 on: 07/20/2021 01:54 am »
Over the years I've seen a lot of discussion about how VASIMR is going to be used.  There was some discussion about using it to remove orbital debris, as an LEO tug, as a way of maintaining the space station's altitude, and the somewhat hyped idea of "Mars in 39 Days" (assuming you have a nuclear reactor large enough to power it).  Does anyone know what Ad Astra's current business case is for this engine?   How exactly is NASA planning on using this technology, assuming it actually gets to TRL 8?

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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #337 on: 07/24/2021 01:31 am »
VASIMR coming out of the black...

https://www.adastrarocket.com/pressReleases/2021/20210722-PressRelease.pdf


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PRESS  RELEASE  072221,  JULY  22,  2021:

VASIMR®  VX-200SS  PLASMA  ROCKET COMPLETES  RECORD  88-HOUR  HIGH  POWER ENDURANCE TEST.

[Webster,  Texas  –  for  immediate  release]  Ad Astra  Rocket  Company’s  VASIMR®  VX-200SS Plasma  Rocket  has  completed  88  hours  of continuous  operation  at  80  kW  at  the  company’s Texas  laboratory  near  Houston.  In  doing  so,  the company  establishes  a  new  high-power  world endurance  record  in  electric  propulsion.  The  test also  demonstrates  the  maturity  of  the  VASIMR® engine  technology  as  a  competitive  option  for high-power  in-space  electric  propulsion  with either  solar  or  nuclear  electric  power.  Electric rockets  operating  above  50  kW/thruster  are considered  “high-power.” The  test  began  at  12:50  pm  (CST)  last  Monday July  12  and  ended  Friday,  July  16  at  4:55  am (CST).  The  firing  stopped  only  12  hours  shy  of  its intended  duration  of  100  hours  due  to  a  spurious temperature  sensor  located  in  the  test  support equipment  and  not  on  the  rocket  structure.  The rocket,  however,  was  performing  normally  and  all indications  were  that,  were  it  not  for  this  faulty sensor,  it  would  have  met  and  exceeded  the  100hour  goal.  Ad  Astra  believes  the  88-hr  test provides  objective  and  sufficient  evidence  that the  VASIMR®  engine  has  met  the  intent  of  the high-power  endurance  goal  set  by  NASA. “The  test  is  a  major  success,  the  culmination  of years  of  trial-and-error  testing  and  painstaking attention  to  detail  and  a  handsome  reward  for  the team’s  tenacity  and  dedication,”  said  Franklin  R. Chang  Díaz,  Ad  Astra’s  chairman  and  CEO  and a  decorated  former  NASA  astronaut.  “With  a  new set  of  engine  modifications  already  in  the manufacturing  stage,  we’ll  now  move  to demonstrate  thermal  steady  state  at  100  kW  in the  second  half of 2021,” he  added. 
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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #338 on: 07/29/2021 04:42 am »
While good and necessary, 88 hours isn't particularly impressive for an electric thruster (which is what VASIMR is). NASA tested the NEXT thruster for over 48,000 hours. (That's not a typo.)
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Re: VASIMR Engine
« Reply #339 on: 10/21/2022 05:26 pm »
Cross post from the "Re: Powerful Krypton Ion Engine/Mars SEP thread"
Latest VASIMR:  VX-200SS

Performance is tied to magnetic field intensity.  The field is limited today by budget, not by superconductor state of the art. 

Quote from: Díaz et al. 2022
The VX-200SS™ design called for a new high temperature superconducting magnet, operating at a higher peak field, to fully accommodate the new rocket core design.  However, the new magnet did not become available due to NASA budgetary limitations; therefore, the VX-200SS™ had to be operated sub-optimally with the superconducting magnet of the VX-200™, at a lower peak field than originally intended.

Field intensity trend, Maeda & Yanagisawa 2019.

Refs.

Díaz, F.R.C., Giambusso, M., Corrigan, A.M., Dean, L.O. and Warrayat, M.F., 2022. Recent Progress on the VASIMR® Engine IEPC-2022-525.

Maeda, H. and Yanagisawa, Y., 2019. Future prospects for NMR magnets: A perspective. Journal of Magnetic Resonance, 306, pp.80-85.

 

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