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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #1 on: 06/07/2025 02:45 am »
Chinese blogger Hello Space recently listed the notable constellation plans in china: https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1057469150698405888
Within that list there are 30 plans for constellations of more than 100 satellites, with a total of 60,000 satellites to be made and launched...

Of course not all projects are equal, for example the 4th largest in that list, HK-Based USpace's 6,000 satellite constellation, is highly dubious.

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #2 on: 06/07/2025 05:30 am »
Since we're in the early stages of the Guowang construction (not so "mega" as yet), I thought It'd be easier now to start a list that keeps track of the number of sats actually launched into orbit (not accounting for their operational status).

It seems unclear if the similarly-named GEO satellites and experimental satellites are also part of the Guowang constellation and so I'll keep them in separate lists.

The lists use the following provisional format:  Number, Launch Time (UTC), LV, Launch Site, Orbit Type, number of satellites. The sources for the launches include Wikipedia (plus the sources cited therein) and the relevant launch threads located here at nasaspaceflight.com. The two currently relevant Wiki pages are:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Long_March_launches_(2020%E2%80%932024)#2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Long_March_launches_(2025%E2%80%932029)#2025

I'll do a similar post for the Thousand Sails Constllation later.

Feel free to add to the lists or to delete any incorrect info.


Satellite Internet High Orbit Satellites (卫星互联网高轨卫星) {part of Guowang?]
1.     29 FEB 2024, 13:03     CZ-3B(Y95)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
2.     01 AUG 2024, 13:14     CZ-3B(Y??)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
3.     10 OCT 2024, 13:50     CZ-3B(Y??)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  3 satellites


Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)        HICAL    LEO     1 sat
2.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)     JSLC      LEO     4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  5 satellites


Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO     09 sats
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                       TSLC     LEO     05 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  34 satellites

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #3 on: 06/07/2025 06:27 am »
I'll do a similar post for the Thousand Sails Constllation later.

Feel free to add to the lists or to delete any incorrect info.

Thousand Sails Constellation 千帆星座
1.     06 AUG 2024, 06:42     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
2.     15 OCT 2024, 11:06     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
3.     05 DEC 2024, 04:41     CZ-6A(Y22)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
4.     23 JAN  2025, 05:15     CZ-6A(Y06)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
5.     11 MAR 2025, 16:38     CZ-8(Y6)         HICAL    Polar     18 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  90 satellites

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #4 on: 06/07/2025 10:56 am »

Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)  JSLC  LEO  2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)    XSLC  LEO   3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)         South China Sea LEO 1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17) JSLC  LEO  3 sats

1.5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)        HICAL    LEO     1 sat
2.6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)     JSLC      LEO     4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites



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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #5 on: 06/07/2025 03:47 pm »
I'll do a similar post for the Thousand Sails Constllation later.

Feel free to add to the lists or to delete any incorrect info.

Thousand Sails Constellation 千帆星座
1.     06 AUG 2024, 06:42     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
2.     15 OCT 2024, 11:06     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
3.     05 DEC 2024, 04:41     CZ-6A(Y22)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
4.     23 JAN  2025, 05:15     CZ-6A(Y06)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
5.     11 MAR 2025, 16:38     CZ-8(Y6)         HICAL    Polar     18 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  90 satellites

KL-Beta are considered to be Qianfan tech demos (not prototypes, their design was different), they were built and operated independently by SECM/IAMCAS & Spacesail without the german/liechstensteiner KLEO side knowing.
There are some arguments on KL-Alpha too but it's more dubious as KLEO was more involved in this.

https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1707162656424574020
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54465.0
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kl-alpha-a.htm
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kl-beta-a.htm

04 AUG 2021, 11:01     CZ-6(Y7)     TSLC     Polar     2 sats

06 AUG 2024 CZ-6A was Y21 per patch
15 OCT 2024 CZ-6A was Y20 per patch

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #6 on: 06/07/2025 07:30 pm »
Folks, thanks for the corrections and additions! Following are the corrected counts:


Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)  JSLC  LEO  2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)    XSLC  LEO   3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)         South China Sea LEO 1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17) JSLC  LEO  3 sats

1.5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)        HICAL    LEO     1 sat
2.6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)     JSLC      LEO     4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites



Satellite Internet High Orbit Satellites (卫星互联网高轨卫星) {part of Guowang?]
1.     29 FEB 2024, 13:03     CZ-3B(Y95)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
2.     01 AUG 2024, 13:14     CZ-3B(Y??)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
3.     10 OCT 2024, 13:50     CZ-3B(Y??)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  3 satellites


Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)     JSLC     LEO     2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)       XSLC    LEO      3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)                          SCS*     LEO      1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17)   JSLC     LEO      3 sats
5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)                         HICAL   LEO      1 sat
6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)                       JSLC     LEO      4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites
(* SCS = South China Sea)


Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO     09 sats
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO     05 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  34 satellites

I'll do a similar post for the Thousand Sails Constllation later.

Feel free to add to the lists or to delete any incorrect info.

Thousand Sails Constellation 千帆星座
1.     06 AUG 2024, 06:42     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
2.     15 OCT 2024, 11:06     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
3.     05 DEC 2024, 04:41     CZ-6A(Y22)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
4.     23 JAN  2025, 05:15     CZ-6A(Y06)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
5.     11 MAR 2025, 16:38     CZ-8(Y6)         HICAL    Polar     18 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  90 satellites

KL-Beta are considered to be Qianfan tech demos (not prototypes, their design was different), they were built and operated independently by SECM/IAMCAS & Spacesail without the german/liechstensteiner KLEO side knowing.
There are some arguments on KL-Alpha too but it's more dubious as KLEO was more involved in this.

https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1707162656424574020
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54465.0
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kl-alpha-a.htm
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kl-beta-a.htm

04 AUG 2021, 11:01     CZ-6(Y7)     TSLC     Polar     2 sats

06 AUG 2024 CZ-6A was Y21 per patch
15 OCT 2024 CZ-6A was Y20 per patch

Thousand Sails Constellation 千帆星座
X.     04 AUG 2021, 11:01     CZ-6(Y7)         TSLC     Polar     2 sats   (tech demo, not counted)

1.     06 AUG 2024, 06:42     CZ-6A(Y21)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
2.     15 OCT 2024, 11:06     CZ-6A(Y20)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
3.     05 DEC 2024, 04:41     CZ-6A(Y22)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
4.     23 JAN  2025, 05:15     CZ-6A(Y06)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
5.     11 MAR 2025, 16:38     CZ-8(Y6)         HICAL    Polar     18 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  90 satellites

« Last Edit: 06/07/2025 07:32 pm by sandha »

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #7 on: 06/09/2025 05:56 pm »

Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)  JSLC  LEO  2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)    XSLC  LEO   3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)         South China Sea LEO 1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17) JSLC  LEO  3 sats

1.5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)        HICAL    LEO     1 sat
2.6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)     JSLC      LEO     4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites
And these two launches?
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54523.40
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=56393.20

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #8 on: 06/10/2025 02:55 pm »
Folks, thanks for the corrections and additions! Following are the corrected counts:



Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO     09 sats
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO     05 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  34 satellites


In the case of Guowang, It may be worth noting the inclination and manufacturer of the satellites,especially since it will eventually likely involve many different shells and manufacturers, the distinction between GW-A59 (<500km) and GW-A2 (600-1145km) may eventually be useful too, although they're all A2 for now
Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°    09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°    05 sats SECM
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  34 satellites

GEESATCOM 吉利星座 Previously known as Geely Future Mobility Constellation 吉利未来出行星座
X.     15 DEC 2021, 10:00     KZ-1A (Y17)     JSLC     LEO 51.5°     2 sats  Launch Failure
1.     02 JUN 2022, 04:00     CZ-2C (Y65)     XSLC     LEO 50.0°     9 sats
2.     02 FEB 2024, 23:37     CZ-2C (Y85)     XSLC     LEO 50.0°     11 sats
3.     05 SEP 2024, 18:30     CZ-6  (Y11)      TSLC     LEO 50.0°     10 sats
Total number as of 10 June 2025:  30 satellites

Various informations:
Built and Operated by Geespace (浙江时空道宇科技有限公司 (时空道宇科技)/Zhejiang Spacetime Daoyu Technology Co., Ltd.) held by Geely Holding Group (吉利控股)

https://www.geelytech.com/news/75
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Geely's future travel constellation project started designing in 2019. Through three launches in 2022 and 2024, half of the satellites in the first phase have been deployed in orbit, and global commercial services will be realized by the end of this year. The overall constellation planning is divided into three phases: the first phase deploys 72 satellites to achieve global real-time data communication and provide medium and low-speed satellite communication services to global users. It is expected to be completed by the end of 2025; the second phase plans 264 mobile phone direct connection satellites to support existing mobile phone direct connection satellite communication and provide global commercial services; the third phase plans 5676 communication satellites to provide global commercial low-orbit broadband communication services.

https://www.bilibili.com/opus/942176057933430789
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/966295138311602180

The name change happened in late 2024

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #9 on: 07/27/2025 01:15 pm »

In the case of Guowang, It may be worth noting the inclination and manufacturer of the satellites,especially since it will eventually likely involve many different shells and manufacturers, the distinction between GW-A59 (<500km) and GW-A2 (600-1145km) may eventually be useful too, although they're all A2 for now
Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°    09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°    05 sats SECM
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  34 satellites


27 July 2025 update (edited on 28 July 2025 to add Y# etc.). :

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
Total number as of 27 July 2025:  39 satellites
« Last Edit: 07/28/2025 09:16 am by sandha »

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #10 on: 07/27/2025 02:15 pm »

5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y?)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM (to be verified)
Total number as of 27 July 2025:  39 satellites (t.b.v.)

https://m.weibo.cn/status/5193115248104072

They were made by CAST

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #11 on: 07/30/2025 04:57 pm »
27 July 2025 update (edited on 28 July 2025 to add Y# etc.). :

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
Total number as of 27 July 2025:  39 satellites

30 July 2025 update. :

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
Total number as of 30 July 2025:  48 satellites

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #12 on: 08/05/2025 01:44 am »

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
Total number as of 30 July 2025:  48 satellites


4 August 2025 update:

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      HCSLC*  LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
7.     04 AUG 2025 10:21      CZ-12(Y2)                      HCSLC   LEO 50°        09 sats  GxSp**
Total number as of 04 August 2025:  57 satellites

*  note 1: HCSLC = Hainan Commercial Space Launch Center (aka HICAL, aka Wenchang Commercial Space Launch Site)
** note 2: GxSp = Galaxy Aerospace (one report indicates 7 sats, but likely number is 9 sats)

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #13 on: 08/13/2025 11:03 am »
This Guowang sats, are big, only 10 for a LM-5B

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #14 on: 08/13/2025 12:31 pm »

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      HCSLC*  LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
7.     04 AUG 2025 10:21      CZ-12(Y2)                      HCSLC   LEO 50°        09 sats  GxSp**
Total number as of 04 August 2025:  57 satellites


13 August 2025 update:

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      HCSLC*  LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
7.     04 AUG 2025 10:21      CZ-12(Y2)                      HCSLC   LEO 50°        09 sats  GxSp
8.     13 AUG 2025, 06:43     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y8+Y4)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
Total number as of 13 August 2025:  67 satellites

*  note 1: HCSLC = Hainan Commercial Space Launch Center (aka Wenchang Commercial Space Launch Site)

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #15 on: 08/15/2025 08:19 pm »

Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)     JSLC     LEO     2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)       XSLC    LEO      3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)                          SCS*     LEO      1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17)   JSLC     LEO      3 sats
5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)                         HICAL   LEO      1 sat
6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)                       JSLC     LEO      4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites
(* SCS = South China Sea)


Thanks to @luritie

Update on 15 August 2025:

Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     24 AUG 2021, 11:15     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y58/Y1)     JSLC     LEO    3 sats**
2.     20 MAY 2022, 10:30     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y62/Y2)     JSLC     LEO     3 sats***
3.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)     JSLC     LEO     2 sats
4.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)       XSLC    LEO      3 sats
5.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)                          SCS*     LEO      1 sat
6.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17)   JSLC     LEO      3 sats
7.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12 (Y1)                        HICAL   LEO      1 sat
8.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D (Y78)                      JSLC     LEO      4 sats
9.     15 AUG 2025 01:17      ZQ-2E (Y3)                        JSLC     LEO      4 sats**** [Launch Failure, Not Counted]

Total number as of 15 August 2025:  20 satellites

*      SCS = South China Sea
**     Payloads were designated RSW-1, RSW-2, and TJSW-7
***    Payloads were designated (on this forum only?) DTW x 3 "Digui Tongxin Weixing (低轨通信卫星)"
****  Apparent payloads were four Guowang experimental satellites

(Corrections and additions/deletions welcome!)
« Last Edit: 08/15/2025 11:19 pm by sandha »

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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #16 on: 08/17/2025 06:18 pm »
13 August 2025 update:

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      HCSLC*  LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
7.     04 AUG 2025 10:21      CZ-12(Y2)                      HCSLC   LEO 50°        09 sats  GxSp
8.     13 AUG 2025, 06:43     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y8+Y4)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
Total number as of 13 August 2025:  67 satellites

*  note 1: HCSLC = Hainan Commercial Space Launch Center (aka Wenchang Commercial Space Launch Site)

17 August 2025 update:

Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO 50°        09 sats CAST
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats SECM
5.     27 JUL 2025, 10:03      CZ-6A(Y14)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST
6.     30 JUL 2025, 07:49      CZ-8A(Y3)                      HCSLC   LEO 50°        09 sats SECM
7.     04 AUG 2025 10:21      CZ-12(Y2)                      HCSLC   LEO 50°        09 sats  GxSp
8.     13 AUG 2025, 06:43     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y8+Y4)     WSLC     LEO 86.5°     10 sats CAST
9 .    17 AUG 2025, 14:15     CZ-6A(Y10)                    TSLC      LEO 86.5°     05 sats CAST/SECM
Total number as of 17 August 2025:  72 satellites
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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #17 on: 08/17/2025 08:53 pm »

In the case of Guowang, It may be worth noting the inclination and manufacturer of the satellites,especially since it will eventually likely involve many different shells and manufacturers, the distinction between GW-A59 (<500km) and GW-A2 (600-1145km) may eventually be useful too, although they're all A2 for now
The satellites launched to 86,5 incl should all be GW/GW-1/GW-S not GW-A2
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Re: Chinese Mega Constellations
« Reply #18 on: 08/19/2025 11:11 am »
Folks, thanks for the corrections and additions! Following are the corrected counts:


Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)  JSLC  LEO  2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)    XSLC  LEO   3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)         South China Sea LEO 1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17) JSLC  LEO  3 sats

1.5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)        HICAL    LEO     1 sat
2.6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)     JSLC      LEO     4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites



Satellite Internet High Orbit Satellites (卫星互联网高轨卫星) {part of Guowang?]
1.     29 FEB 2024, 13:03     CZ-3B(Y95)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
2.     01 AUG 2024, 13:14     CZ-3B(Y??)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
3.     10 OCT 2024, 13:50     CZ-3B(Y??)     XSLC     GEO     1 sat
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  3 satellites


Weixing Hulianwang Jishu Shiyan 卫星互联网技术试验卫星 (experimental)
1.     09 JUL 2023,  11:00     CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y52/Y3)     JSLC     LEO     2 sats
2.     23 NOV 2023, 10:00     CZ-2D/YZ-3 (Y59/Y2)       XSLC    LEO      3 sats
3.     05 DEC 2023, 19:24     SD-3 (Y2)                          SCS*     LEO      1 sat
4.     30 DEC 2023, 0:13       CZ-2C/YZ-1S (Y73/Y17)   JSLC     LEO      3 sats
5.     30 NOV 2024, 14:25     CZ-12(Y1)                         HICAL   LEO      1 sat
6.     01 APR 2025, 04:00     CZ-2D(Y78)                       JSLC     LEO      4 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  14 satellites
(* SCS = South China Sea)


Satellite Internet Low-Orbit Satellites 卫星互联网低轨卫星 (Guowang)
1.     16 DEC 2024, 10:00     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y6+Y2)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
2.     11 FEB 2025, 09:30     CZ-8A(Y1)                      WSLC     LEO     09 sats
3.     28 APR 2025, 20:10     CZ-5B+YZ-2(Y7+Y3)     WSLC     LEO     10 sats
4.     05 JUN 2025, 20:45     CZ-6A(Y8)                      TSLC      LEO     05 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  34 satellites

I'll do a similar post for the Thousand Sails Constllation later.

Feel free to add to the lists or to delete any incorrect info.

Thousand Sails Constellation 千帆星座
1.     06 AUG 2024, 06:42     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
2.     15 OCT 2024, 11:06     CZ-6A(Y??)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
3.     05 DEC 2024, 04:41     CZ-6A(Y22)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
4.     23 JAN  2025, 05:15     CZ-6A(Y06)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
5.     11 MAR 2025, 16:38     CZ-8(Y6)         HICAL    Polar     18 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  90 satellites

KL-Beta are considered to be Qianfan tech demos (not prototypes, their design was different), they were built and operated independently by SECM/IAMCAS & Spacesail without the german/liechstensteiner KLEO side knowing.
There are some arguments on KL-Alpha too but it's more dubious as KLEO was more involved in this.

https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1707162656424574020
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=54465.0
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kl-alpha-a.htm
https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kl-beta-a.htm

04 AUG 2021, 11:01     CZ-6(Y7)     TSLC     Polar     2 sats

06 AUG 2024 CZ-6A was Y21 per patch
15 OCT 2024 CZ-6A was Y20 per patch

Thousand Sails Constellation 千帆星座
X.     04 AUG 2021, 11:01     CZ-6(Y7)         TSLC     Polar     2 sats   (tech demo, not counted)

1.     06 AUG 2024, 06:42     CZ-6A(Y21)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
2.     15 OCT 2024, 11:06     CZ-6A(Y20)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
3.     05 DEC 2024, 04:41     CZ-6A(Y22)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
4.     23 JAN  2025, 05:15     CZ-6A(Y06)     TSLC     Polar     18 sats
5.     11 MAR 2025, 16:38     CZ-8(Y6)         HICAL    Polar     18 sats
Total number as of 6 June 2025:  90 satellites

It seems there is proof the Satellite Internet High Orbit Satellites are owned by CSCN and therefore part of or adjacent to Guowang
https://isruniversity.com/2025/08/18/issue-127/#section1

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