Author Topic: FAILURE: YG-33 Yaogan Weixing-33 - CZ-4C - TSLC, LC9 - May 22, 2019 (22:49 UTC)  (Read 20043 times)

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Re: YG-33 Yaogan Weixing-33 - CZ-4C - TSLC, LC9 - May 2019
« Reply #1 on: 04/28/2019 04:22 pm »
If this is not an entirely new "make/model" of Yaogan satellite, then...

This could be a second satellite of the same type as YG-29, a "next-generation" SAR reconnaissance satellite.
It also launched on a CZ-4C from TSLC, LC9, to a SSO (~615 km circ., 97.8 deg.).

Another option is perhaps a sixth in the YG-8 optical reconnaissance satellites (numbers 8, 15, 19, 22, and 27).  These satellites have an alternate internal classification, Jianbing-9, or JB-9.  The previous five have launched on CZ-4C's, from TSLC, LC9, to a different SSO (~1200 km circ., 100 deg.)

YG-29 launch thread here

YG-27 launch thread here

Also noting: this launch may not be preceded by published NOTAMs.

(EDIT 5/3 no NOTAMs or other navigational notices preceded the April 29 UTC launch of the pair of Tianhui-2 Group 01 satellites from TSLC.  EDIT 5/16: NOTAMs posted!)

EDIT 5/24, following post-launch failure discussion down-thread: Gaofen-10 (GF-10) launch failure thread
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Re: YG-33 Yaogan Weixing-33 - CZ-4C - TSLC, LC9 - May 2019
« Reply #2 on: 05/08/2019 02:24 pm »
According to the 9ifly Chinese space forum, this launch will take place around May 20.

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By my visual inspection:
The launch azimuth for this launch, determined by NOTAMs, better matches the launch azimuth of YG-29, determined by 1st stage and PLF parts impact sites; rather than the launch azimuth of YG-27, determined by 1st stage impact sites.

Seeking correction, clarification, or confirmation.
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NOTAM covering portions of Laos/Cambodia for CZ-4C 2nd stage debris

A0097/19 -  DUE TO SPACEFLIGHT ACTIVITIES, THE FLT SAFETY OF THE ACFT IN FOLLOWING AREAS MAY BE AFFECTED DETAILS AS FLW: DETA:22 MAY 2019 FM 2230-2359 UTC AREAS: 150939N 1055244E 150157N 1063640E 134955N 1062314E 135736N 1053931E FOUR-POINTS CONNECTION RANGE. VERTICAL ALTITUDE:GND-UNL RMK:ATC WILL NOT CLEAR IFR FLT THRU THIS AREA FOR THE FLT SAFETY. GND - UNL, 22 MAY 22:30 2019 UNTIL 22 MAY 23:59 2019. CREATED: 20 MAY 09:14 2019
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Here's the 9ifly thread on the launch. They have May 23 6:49 am local (May 22 22:49 UTC) as the launch time.

http://www.9ifly.cn/thread-92038-5-1.html

SFF gives a launch time around 6:53 am local (22:53 UTC).

http://www.spaceflightfans.cn/event/long-march-4c-rocket-launch-yaogan-33
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Launch should be happening about now.
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« Last Edit: 05/22/2019 11:35 pm by Steven Pietrobon »
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http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=92038&pid=655529

"According to Weibo @china Aerospace The wreckage of the Long March fourth acrylic rocket has fallen in Shanyang County, Shangluo, Shaanxi Province"

https://tw.weibo.com/5616492130/4375011403844971

"The wreckage of the long four-acrylic rocket that has just been fired has fallen!"
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http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=92038&pid=655529

"According to Weibo @china Aerospace The wreckage of the Long March fourth acrylic rocket has fallen in Shanyang County, Shangluo, Shaanxi Province"

https://tw.weibo.com/5616492130/4375011403844971

"The wreckage of the long four-acrylic rocket that has just been fired has fallen!"

I assume they are talking about a stage coming back, not as literally as the translation makes it sound? :o
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I assume they are talking about a stage coming back, not as literally as the translation makes it sound? :o

That's my understanding. Meanwhile, on 9ifly they are wondering about the mission (this is from the same person who first reported the launch).

http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=92038&pid=655535

"The result of the mission?"
« Last Edit: 05/23/2019 12:07 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=92038&pid=655529

"According to Weibo @china Aerospace The wreckage of the Long March fourth acrylic rocket has fallen in Shanyang County, Shangluo, Shaanxi Province"

https://tw.weibo.com/5616492130/4375011403844971

"The wreckage of the long four-acrylic rocket that has just been fired has fallen!"

The location mentioned above appears to me, by visual inspection of a map of China and the NOTAMs mapped up-thread, to match the location for the 1st stage impact.

Speculating re: the attached image, with the corkscrewed contrail.
I know high-altitude wind shear can quickly distort a rocket's contrail...but, it doesn't look healthy for an orbit-bound LV.

EDIT 5/23 re: contrail--never mind!
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