Can someone check the inclination of this path and whether its plane matches any Chinese satellites in the Beidou system or in the 63.4 deg. orbits?
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/23/2021 04:07 amCan someone check the inclination of this path and whether its plane matches any Chinese satellites in the Beidou system or in the 63.4 deg. orbits?The NOTAM over Mainland China lines up with previous Beidou launches in location but not time, the one over the South China Sea is further southeast then what the Beidou missions used.
Quote from: Josh_from_Canada on 09/23/2021 04:33 amQuote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/23/2021 04:07 amCan someone check the inclination of this path and whether its plane matches any Chinese satellites in the Beidou system or in the 63.4 deg. orbits?The NOTAM over Mainland China lines up with previous Beidou launches in location but not time, the one over the South China Sea is further southeast then what the Beidou missions used.Have you checked the BDS-3 IGSO launches?
Would have to verify further but lines up roughly with a BDS-2 bird at quick glance.
Could this correspond to a launch into Molniya orbit?Just a hypothesis, the Chinese could do like the Soviets did with their US-K satellites, and send early warning satellites not only in geostationary orbit, but also in Molniya orbit to cover the northern areas.
Someone said it might be BDS-4s.
Quote from: tweetSomeone said it might be BDS-4s.
China launch schedule2021?? - CZ-3C - XSLC - Beidou-3 Buwang-1September 10, 2020
China launch schedule2021September 27 23-25 26 - Shiyan-10 - CZ-3B/G2 - XSLC, LC3 - 08:20 ~08:10October 16-18 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC2November 2-4 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC3November 26-28 - ?? - CZ-3B/G? - XSLC, LC2December 13-15 - ?? - CZ-2D - XSLC, LC3December 29-January 1, 2022 - Tianji Guganwang Gaogui (×2) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC2TBD? TBD September 20 September 23? - Yaogan-30 Group-11, Tianqi-? "Yan'an-1" - CZ-2C (Y49) - XSLC, LC3?threadTBD July 5 (or 6) - Tianhui-3 (GEOSAR) - CZ-3B/G3 - XSLC, LC?threadChanges on May 6Changes on June 11Changes on June 19Changes on June 22Changes on June 29Changes on July 1Changes on July 2Changes on August 1Changes on September 23Changes on September 27zubenelgenubi
Cargo apparently is the Test Satellite n.º 10.
Still no official confirmation of launch success?
Quote from: Satori on 09/27/2021 09:51 amStill no official confirmation of launch success?Nothing yet, it's weird, I thought it would be delayed because it has the Yz-1S upper stage but it seems it doesn't, it's starting to be rare.
Was that a rumor on 9ifly about a possible problem with the satellite?
I saw some nitrogen tetroxide leaking from one of the boosters in the launch closeup video. Is that normal?
More than seven hours have gone since the launch and still no official information about it whatsoever, and also no objects tracked in orbit... well...
We have first orbital elements from this LM-3B launch via 18SPCS:2021-087A/49258: 177 x 40104 km x 51.04 deg.That...doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary for an inclined geosynchronous transfer orbit.🤔🤔🤔
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/27/2021 05:31 pmWe have first orbital elements from this LM-3B launch via 18SPCS:2021-087A/49258: 177 x 40104 km x 51.04 deg.That...doesn't look like anything out of the ordinary for an inclined geosynchronous transfer orbit.🤔🤔🤔However: 51 deg is a little lower inc than the 54-55 deg used for previous Chinese IGSO launches.Also, they used the YZ stage to reach that apogee, we'd expect stage 3 to be in a 18000-19000 km apogeeorbit if that is the case today; but if no YZ stage was used, that's a new profile for the CZ-3B.
"China launch poster"
Does that mean that only one object has been found after the launch? maybe the satellite did not separate?https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1442629886703665154[/size]
I don't know (or forgot): How does one distinguish between a CZ-3B/G2 and G3?
http://www.news.cn/2021-09/28/c_1127913943.htm
Quote from: tehwkd on 09/28/2021 11:55 amhttp://www.news.cn/2021-09/28/c_1127913943.htmSo the official statement is that the LM-3B flight was normal till spacecraft separation, however "there was an abnormal situation with the satellite *during* the launch process" and the cause is under investigation.
Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/28/2021 12:02 pmQuote from: tehwkd on 09/28/2021 11:55 amhttp://www.news.cn/2021-09/28/c_1127913943.htmSo the official statement is that the LM-3B flight was normal till spacecraft separation, however "there was an abnormal situation with the satellite *during* the launch process" and the cause is under investigation.Wondering if it could be a payload fairing issue? Internal vibration for example as on recent Ariane 5 flights, but worse...
Quote from: jcm on 09/28/2021 05:32 pmQuote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/28/2021 12:02 pmQuote from: tehwkd on 09/28/2021 11:55 amhttp://www.news.cn/2021-09/28/c_1127913943.htmSo the official statement is that the LM-3B flight was normal till spacecraft separation, however "there was an abnormal situation with the satellite *during* the launch process" and the cause is under investigation.Wondering if it could be a payload fairing issue? Internal vibration for example as on recent Ariane 5 flights, but worse...The "during" is key. A launch vehicle's mission is to deliver its payload to a planned orbit in operational condition. Will we ever know the satellite and/or launch vehicle failure mode? - Ed Kyle
The issue seems to revolve around the satellite battery.Quote from: Conexion Espacial on 10/04/2021 01:45 pmThe same is being said in the 9ifly thread which is already active again.https://9ifly.spacety.com/thread-95339-1-1.html
The same is being said in the 9ifly thread which is already active again.https://9ifly.spacety.com/thread-95339-1-1.html
I received a comment that the Shiyan-10 satellite re-entered the Earth these days.
SY-10 recently done a orbital manuver and raised ite perigee to 457km.Now, the satellite is in an orbit of 456.9 km*39,934.0 km, with an inclination of 51.1°.
Quote from: SL9X-8033 on 10/16/2021 05:03 amSY-10 recently done a orbital manuver and raised ite perigee to 457km.Now, the satellite is in an orbit of 456.9 km*39,934.0 km, with an inclination of 51.1°.So the propulsion system still works, so the satellite did not "shut down" after the separation as some indicated, unless this and other problems have been solved from the ground controls.
SY-10 recently done a orbital manuver and raised its perigee to 457km.Now, the satellite is in an orbit of 456.9 km*39,934.0 km, with an inclination of 51.1°.
So far we have only seen the image of the big red screen indicating the success of the mission as usual, now we are waiting for a statement from CASC or one of the agencies involved in the launch/satellite.
And....finally, it is a "successful" mission.
Quote from: Conexion Espacial on 10/17/2021 07:10 amAnd....finally, it is a "successful" mission.Weird, not seeing it on 航天见闻's weibo page.
Quote from: tehwkd on 10/17/2021 05:58 pmQuote from: Conexion Espacial on 10/17/2021 07:10 amAnd....finally, it is a "successful" mission.Weird, not seeing it on 航天见闻's weibo page.He was eliminated minutes later
Quote from: SL9X-8033 on 10/16/2021 05:03 amSY-10 recently done a orbital manuver and raised its perigee to 457km.Now, the satellite is in an orbit of 456.9 km*39,934.0 km, with an inclination of 51.1°.Per last 2 sets of TLEs:At epoch Oct 14, 20:19 UTC2021-087A/49258 in 169 x 40085 km x 51.04° orbit#38At epoch Oct 15, 15:39 UTC2021-087A/49258 in 450 x 39927 km x 51.06° orbit#39
At epoch Oct 18, 15:36 UTC:2021-087A/49258 in 1106 x 40093 km x 51.13° orbit#45
Quote from: input~2 on 10/18/2021 09:21 pmAt epoch Oct 18, 15:36 UTC:2021-087A/49258 in 1106 x 40093 km x 51.13° orbit#45Still there on orbit 51. Must be phasing.