1969 June 9-13 - . LV Family: Saturn V. Launch Vehicle: Saturn V.Studies of impact of empty Apollo stages on the lunar surface - . Nation: USA. Program: Apollo. Flight: Apollo 11; Apollo 12. Spacecraft: Apollo LM. Studies were being conducted to determine the feasibility of intentionally impacting an S-IVB stage and an empty LM stage on the lunar surface after jettison, to gather geological data and enhance the scientific return of the seismology experiment. Data would be obtained with the ALSEP seismographic equipment placed on the lunar surface during the Apollo 11 or Apollo 12 flight. MSFC and Bellcomm were examining the possibility of the S-IVB jettison; MSC, the LM ascent stage jettison. Intentional impacting of the ascent stage for Apollo 11 was later determined not to be desirable.
a little search using "snoopy" give some threads http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22121.msg611532#msg611532http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32919.msg1100201#msg1100201http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=14215.msg1170935#msg1170935
Quote from: Archibald on 09/02/2015 07:12 ama little search using "snoopy" give some threads http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22121.msg611532#msg611532http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32919.msg1100201#msg1100201http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=14215.msg1170935#msg1170935I never did get any info on what exactly I found in my thread there...
The memo is very vague, and on closer exam, Apollo XI just cast off Eagle so that it would decay in lunar orbit and crash unceremoniously onto the surface. Not even a targeted impact. It just seems like such a terrible oversight in mission planning. It would be just as easy for the crew to have jettisoned LM-5 away from the Moon so that it might one day be found intact for posterity's sake. I guess it's just one of those things they didn't think about. Kinda like not mounting a chest camera on Aldrin so that the world would actually get good pictures of the First Man To Walk On The Moon actually WALKING ON THE MOON?!
1969 February 27 - .Apollo Preliminary Lunar Landing Phase Photographic Operations Plan seriously deficient - . Nation: USA. Related Persons: Faget. Program: Apollo. Spacecraft: Apollo LM. Maxime A. Faget, MSC Director of Engineering and Development, said he believed the Preliminary Lunar Landing Phase Photographic Operations Plan was seriously deficient in meeting its stated objectives. "From the standpoint of public information and historical documentation, I'm terribly disappointed to find that although 560 feet (170 meters) of movie film has been set aside for lunar surface use none will be exposed with the intent of providing first-class visual appreciation of the astronaut's activity on the moon during this singularly historical event. Everyone's impression of this occasion will be marred and distorted by the fact that the greatest frame rate is 12 frames per second. One can argue that 'suitable' (although jerky) motion rendition is produced by 'double-framing.' Nevertheless, it is almost unbelievable that the culmination of a 20 billion dollar program is to be recorded in such a stingy manner and the low-quality public information and historical material is in keeping with an otherwise high-quality program." Faget also noted he felt that, from a historical standpoint, both the lunar module pilot and the commander should be photographed with the Hasselblad camera while on the surface.
Funny that you mentioned that. Someone else realized that no cameras were initially designated to photograph the astronauts, given the historic nature. That someone was Max Faget, the key engineer in the manned spacecraft designs of the time.Same source as above:
The memo is very vague, and on closer exam, Apollo XI just cast off Eagle so that it would decay in lunar orbit and crash unceremoniously onto the surface. Not even a targeted impact. It just seems like such a terrible oversight in mission planning. It would be just as easy for the crew to have jettisoned LM-5 away from the Moon so that it might one day be found intact for posterity's sake
Quote from: xraydeltaone on 09/03/2015 02:03 pmThe memo is very vague, and on closer exam, Apollo XI just cast off Eagle so that it would decay in lunar orbit and crash unceremoniously onto the surface. Not even a targeted impact. It just seems like such a terrible oversight in mission planning. It would be just as easy for the crew to have jettisoned LM-5 away from the Moon so that it might one day be found intact for posterity's sakeWhat good would that do? There were no sensors in place to for an impact. And please describe what is "away from the moon" and how does one try to achieve that?This is just much to do about nothing.
Some bittersweet news on Snoopy.It's likely been found! However, it's orbit has apparently shifted enough to was likely not quite a solar orbit but a wider orbit that crossed our orbit twice. It's likely to collide with Earth by November 13.Here's the link to that information, the link of the latest thread that reported it and an older link on the search for the wandering Apollo 10 ascent stage.I think it just wants to be home in time for the new Peanuts movie. Good boy.
Ok, I'm having a lot of trouble today with my internet and no time to mess with it right now, so I want to stress that this is pure speculation.
Quote from: MattMason on 10/26/2015 02:02 amSome bittersweet news on Snoopy.It's likely been found! However, it's orbit has apparently shifted enough to was likely not quite a solar orbit but a wider orbit that crossed our orbit twice. It's likely to collide with Earth by November 13.Here's the link to that information, the link of the latest thread that reported it and an older link on the search for the wandering Apollo 10 ascent stage.I think it just wants to be home in time for the new Peanuts movie. Good boy.QuoteOk, I'm having a lot of trouble today with my internet and no time to mess with it right now, so I want to stress that this is pure speculation. Ok this is just speculation. I cannot find anything backing up that this is actually the LM-4 Ascent stage.