it transpires that Fregat space tug for the ill-fated mission was originally built for a Baikonur launch
Quoteit transpires that Fregat space tug for the ill-fated mission was originally built for a Baikonur launchhttp://www.russianspaceweb.com/meteor-m2-1.html#1203
Quote from: input~2 on 12/03/2017 06:31 pm Quoteit transpires that Fregat space tug for the ill-fated mission was originally built for a Baikonur launchhttp://www.russianspaceweb.com/meteor-m2-1.html#1203http://www.russianspaceweb.com/meteor-m2-1.html#1203...was originally built for the launch of the Rezonans scientific satellites from Baikonur...May be Stan Black can find a seriel number ?
Quote from: eeergo on 11/30/2017 08:48 pmWhat's the difference between 372PH17 and other Soyuz-2.1B versions? Is it a special version for Vostochny?Mainly new flight control computer system based on Malakhit-7 with changes to some other instruments.
What's the difference between 372PH17 and other Soyuz-2.1B versions? Is it a special version for Vostochny?
РН «Союз-2» этапа 1а для космодрома «Восточный» (изделие 372РН16) предназначена для обеспечения запусков автоматических космических аппаратов различного назначения на орбиты различных высот и наклонений, а также на отлетные траектории.Изделие 372РН16 для космодрома «Восточный» создана путем адаптации базовой РН «Союз-2» этапа 1а (14А14), используемой на космодромах «Байконур» и «Плесецк», к условиям эксплуатации на космодроме «Восточный».Изделие 372РН16 имеет следующие отличия от базовой РН «Союз-2» этапа 1а, используемой на космодромах «Байконур» и «Плесецк»: доработаны места вывода дренажей окислителя и горючего блока III ступени, центрального блока, дренажей окислителя боковых блоков для установки пароотводов под МБО; установлены новые ХИТ БАС-V, не требующие использования ЗАС; установлена новая БЦВС «Малахит-7»; установлена облегченная БКС СУ; установлены новые БСИУЗ; установлена новая радиотелеметрическая система РТСЦМ-1; установлена высокоскоростная абонентская аппаратура ретрансляции; установлена бортовая аппаратура средств видеоконтроля.Изделие 372РН16 является трехступенчатой РН со смешанной схемой работы ступеней, где I и II ступени работают по схеме «пакет», a III ступень - по схеме «тандем».В состав РН 372РН16 входят: изделие 374БЛ05 (сборка блоков I - II ступеней); изделие 374БЛ06 (блок III ступени); бортовая аппаратура системы управления (БАСУ); бортовые средства измерения уровня заправки (БСИУЗ); бортовая аппаратура средств измерений (БАСИ); средства разделения и отделения.Основные размеры РН 372РН16: полная длина - 33883 мм; длина сборки блоков I - II ступеней - 27138 мм; длина блока III ступени - 6745 мм; максимальный поперечный размер РН (по воздушным рулям) - 10303 мм; максимальный диаметр центрального блока - 2950 мм; максимальный диаметр бокового блока - 2680 мм; максимальный диаметр блока III ступени - 2660 мм.РН 372РН16 состоит из двух окончательно собранных и испытанных изделий:1) изделия 374БЛ05, в состав которого входит центральный блок с маршевым двигателем 14Д21 и рулевыми агрегатами Д664-000 и четырех боковых блоков с двигателями 14Д22 и РА Д664-200, Д664-400.2) изделия 374БЛ06 (блок третьей ступени) с маршевым двигателем 11Д55.
Quote from: Liss on 12/01/2017 08:14 amQuote from: eeergo on 11/30/2017 08:48 pmWhat's the difference between 372PH17 and other Soyuz-2.1B versions? Is it a special version for Vostochny?Mainly new flight control computer system based on Malakhit-7 with changes to some other instruments.This is a description in Russian for the 1a version. Google can be used to translate.
How much was the contract value for the Meteor-M 2-1 mission (satellite + launch)? Asking to understand how likely it is they will find funds for a replacement Meteor-M 2-3, considering the quoted $44M insurance.
I wonder if anyone verified the GNC data during the launch campaign or I wonder if that wasn't part of the written procedure for some reason (as most stages are purchased for a specific launch site and never swapped around) and no-one had the initiative to do it anyway?
Quote from: eeergo on 12/05/2017 12:48 pmHow much was the contract value for the Meteor-M 2-1 mission (satellite + launch)? Asking to understand how likely it is they will find funds for a replacement Meteor-M 2-3, considering the quoted $44M insurance.I do not know how these numbers result (and what currency it is - ruble ?) quote:"1.65 billion rubles + 376.8 billion for Fregat + 1.25 billion"http://www.russianspaceweb.com/meteor-m2-1.html
I think also Fregat costs are wrong.
Quote from: Alter Sachse on 12/05/2017 02:16 pmQuote from: Alter Sachse on 12/05/2017 02:03 pmI think also Fregat costs are wrong.https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=15064.msg1003556#msg1003556Here are called 366.912.000 ruble for the "Fregat" for "Rezonans 1" satellite. (which was used)Used Fregat was planned for Luna-Glob.
Quote from: Alter Sachse on 12/05/2017 02:03 pmI think also Fregat costs are wrong.https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=15064.msg1003556#msg1003556Here are called 366.912.000 ruble for the "Fregat" for "Rezonans 1" satellite. (which was used)
Roscosmos has reported the results of technical investigation of the Fregat failure: https://www.roscosmos.ru/24451/An algorithmic error in Fregat control system program was found which had never revealed itself between 2000 and 2017 in launches from other sites.Now the second investigation is ongoing to find why it was not found in simulations before the launch.
ROSKOSMOS. THE RESULTS OF THE WORK OF THE COMMISSION ON ASSESSMENT OF THE ACTIVITIES OF OFFICERS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREPARATION AND STARTING OF "METEOR-M" CAS No.2-112/27/2012 18:52In accordance with the findings of the emergency commission on the launch of the November 28, 2017 launch from the EAST spaceflight "Meteor-M" cosmodrome No. 2-1 and the associated load, the cause of the emergency is the imperfection of the software algorithms of the control system of the Republic of Belarus "Fregat". The Emergency Commission noted that calculations of ballistic trajectories were conducted without deviation from the procedure regulated by the current regulatory documents. Since the order of ballistic calculations and the order of their verification did not provide for the use of separate parameters of the angular motion, the incorrectness of the algorithm of the control system of the Republic of Belarus "Fregat" was not found.Based on the findings of the emergency commission on the causes of the contingency situation, the Commission for Evaluating the Activities of Officials Responsible for the Preparation and Launch of Meteor-M Spacecraft No. 2-1 from the EASTERN Space Center on November 28, 2017, analyzed the preparations for launch and compliance of the actions of the leaders their official duties.The Commission noted that the development organizations did not pay sufficient attention to an analysis of the possible causes and consequences of potential inconsistencies that are related to the specifics of the launch of the Fregat carrier in the Soyuz carrier rocket from the EASTERN space center and the development of possible measures to prevent their manifestation. Thus, the requirements of normative documents regarding the analysis of possible failures and the criticality of their consequences were not met to the proper degree.In addition, the officials of the State Corporation "ROSKOSMOS" and the main development companies responsible for the creation of the space complex and its components did not take comprehensive measures to ensure proper control and coordination of work.All this in aggregate contributed to the fact that the factors, the combination of which led to an abnormal completion of the mission, remained undetected in preparation for launch.For improper performance by the leaders of the duties assigned to them, the Commission recommended that disciplinary sanctions be imposed on them in the form of reprimands.The instructions for reprimanding were issued to: Andrey MAZURIN, Executive Director of Roscosmos for the Removal and Operation of Ground-Based Space Infrastructure, Victor Chaporgin, Director of the Quality and Reliability Department of Roscosmos, Oleg Gorshkov, Director General of TsNIIMash, Alexander KIRILIN, Director General of Progress, To the Director General of FSUE "NPO im. Lavochkin "Sergey LEMESHEVSKY, General Director of FSUE" NPCAP im. Pilyugin "Yefim MEZHIRITSKOM and Director General of VNIIEM Corporation Leonid MACRIDENKO.The commission also defined systemic measures and organizational measures, the implementation of which is aimed at preventing future emergencies for identified reasons.
Russia says satellite launch failure due to programming errorDecember 27, 2017 / 7:11 PMMOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said on Wednesday the failed launch of a 2.6 billion-rouble ($44.95 million) satellite last month was due to an embarrassing programming error.Speaking to Rossiya 24 state TV channel, Rogozin said the failure had been caused by human error. The rocket carrying the satellites had been programmed with the wrong coordinates, he said, saying it had been given bearings for take-off from a different cosmodrome - Baikonur - which Moscow leases from Kazakhstan. The rocket was really programmed as if it was taking off from Baikonur, said Rogozin. They didnt get the coordinates right.