Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon Heavy - Psyche - KSC LC-39A - 13 October 2023 (14:19 UTC)  (Read 191813 times)

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https://twitter.com/spacex/status/1713231021112766530

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Falcon Heavy's side boosters landing back on Earth after launching the Psyche spacecraft to orbit

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From one PI to another:

twitter.com/ltelkins/status/1713542215656448379

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I suspect this is never, ever going to get old for me.

https://twitter.com/alanstern/status/1713660685379322304

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I can promise, it won't. Ever.

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https://twitter.com/johnpisaniphoto/status/1713974165751943291

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A close view from the landing zone as a Falcon Heavy side-core booster returns to the launch site after a job well done lifting @MissionToPsyche into space.

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For the record

58049    PSYCHE                   2023-157A   PAYLOAD                  
58050    FALCON HEAVY R/B   2023-157B   ROCKET BODY   
Best quote heard during an inspection, "I was unaware that I was the only one who was aware."

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More NASA Kennedy photos from flickr
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https://twitter.com/djsnm/status/1714476770152661103

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I know I complained that NASA's cameras were out of focus for the booster return on the Psyche launch.... but there was another camera!

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Mind posting the source for this from NASAs page? Trying to find it with no luck.

https://twitter.com/djsnm/status/1714480992747212840

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It appears to have disappeared just as I was working on downloading it… something odd is going on

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US Launch Report

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Oct 18, 2023  KENNEDY SPACE CENTER
We were disappointed with the weather. 90 Degrees and 95 percent humidity. Perfect for launching rockets, horrible for viewing rockets.

« Last Edit: 10/18/2023 07:42 pm by catdlr »
It's Tony De La Rosa, ...I don't create this stuff, I just report it.

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US Launch Report: We were disappointed with the weather. 90 Degrees and 95 percent humidity. Perfect for launching rockets, horrible for viewing rockets. https://youtube.com/watch?v=1UmYQ50QaEk

In their (excellent) view of the booster landings (starting at 2m37s), you can see that the first one to touchdown definitely had some residual horizontal velocity still in it.  It looks like it almost tipped over!  I realize it may not have been anywhere close to that threshold, but it sure did look sporty.  The second one came straight down.

For anyone monitoring this thread for Psyche mission news, a reminder that we are now tracking it in the science-section thread:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=47983.280
« Last Edit: 10/18/2023 09:51 pm by ChrisC »
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https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1715139827941712213

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Can you spot all four fairing halves?

Bob is back at Port Canaveral with a double haul from the Falcon Heavy Pscyhe launch + Starlink 6-23!

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NSF phone question! re: NASA fairing reuse.
Sorry, I haven't found the answer for this question. What was it?

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NSF phone question! re: NASA fairing reuse.
Sorry, I haven't found the answer for this question. What was it?

The fairing used on the Psyche mission was brand new. NASA is looking into SpaceX reusing fairings on NASA missions, but that is currently not expected before Late-2024.
« Last Edit: 10/22/2023 11:37 am by GewoonLukas_ »
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https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1716542813406658701

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All sorts of SpaceX ships at the dock this morning!

https://twitter.com/jerrypikephoto/status/1716547160916050239

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Psyche mission fairings on the dock after being recovered by Bob

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Well i was looking at images.nasa.gov and found the isolated launch veiws of psyche
link: https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20231013-VP-MMS01-0001-SpaceX_Psyche_ISO_BRoll_String_4K-WON_M1708
they do have onboard cams too
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Well i was looking at images.nasa.gov and found the isolated launch veiws of psyche
link:https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20231013-VP-MMS01-0001-SpaceX_Psyche_ISO_BRoll_String_4K-WON_M1708
they do have onboard cams too

nice and 4K too. These are end-to-end launch replays (close-up to long-distance camera tracking locations) like we used to get from NASA TV after the payload was in orbit. Thanks for finding and sharing with us.
« Last Edit: 10/27/2023 03:32 am by catdlr »
It's Tony De La Rosa, ...I don't create this stuff, I just report it.

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Well i was looking at images.nasa.gov and found the isolated launch veiws of psyche
link:https://images.nasa.gov/details/KSC-20231013-VP-MMS01-0001-SpaceX_Psyche_ISO_BRoll_String_4K-WON_M1708
they do have onboard cams too

nice and 4K too.  Thanks for finding and sharing.
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https://twitter.com/ticklestuffyo/status/1718887524183966013

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The @SpaceX patch for the @NASAJPL PSYCHE Falcon Heavy mission is now viewable.

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Can they do that for this mission? or does this mission have an instantaneous window and if it is instantaneous, exactly why, (Jim is claiming that it is instantaneous due to the inability to do RAAN steering, I'm not yet convinced)

You don't need to be convinced.  The facts are the facts.

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Can they do that for this mission? or does this mission have an instantaneous window and if it is instantaneous, exactly why, (Jim is claiming that it is instantaneous due to the inability to do RAAN steering, I'm not yet convinced)

You don't need to be convinced.  The facts are the facts.

There are multiple questions here and I'd like separate them and get more info. (This forum is not just about believing, it's also about learning and understand why things are so)

It is a fact that the F9 cannot do RAAN steering. (I have no reason to doubt this, what I am trying to understand why it makes a difference).
If I understand correctly RAAN steering allows the vehicle to autonomously calculate a new trajectory if/when T0 is changed, is that understanding correct? or does RAAN steering mean something else?
Can SpaceX ground computers calculate a new trajectory if they change the T0 and upload that new trajectory to the vehicle, is that possible or not? and if not, why not? (they change T0 on starlink missions often, but obviously Psyche is different)
(There should be plenty of time between a new T0 being selected and the actual launch, since as discussed, SpaceX does not change T0 after start of fueling. Is that part correct or not?)

Is the FH performance limited so that it could not have pushed Psyche to the correct orbit if T0 was even a little bit moved?  (within the desired safety performance margin).

TIA
« Last Edit: 11/21/2023 09:53 pm by mn »

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This is what gave me a basic, layman understanding of what this is:

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This is what gave me a basic, layman understanding of what this is:

Thanks, I'm sure I've seen this before, but I don't see how it answers any of my questions.

Edit, yes it does confirm my understanding of what it means, but that just reinforces my question of why SpaceX can't do the exact same thing - using ground computers to do that super complicated unbelievably sophisticated and amazing math and then upload the result to the vehicle.
« Last Edit: 11/21/2023 10:05 pm by mn »

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